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Should Christians support Obama?

The FSM shit him on an asteroid and a sun hatched him...

You're going to hell, w other horrible humans like Gandhi and all the Jews killed in the holocaust.
 
Is that how god was created? Surely something as complex as god had to have been created and couldn't just come from nothing?
Have you ever taken a biology class?


I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
He is the Maker of heaven and earth, the sea, and everything in them—He remains faithful forever.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
In the beginning, God created...
 
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yes i took bio in highschool lol..

still dont know how something comes from nothing tho

You mean like god? I don't know how something comes from nothing either, but I can bet that some book written thousands of years ago by men I've never met doesn't have the answers either.
 
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
He is the Maker of heaven and earth, the sea, and everything in them—He remains faithful forever.
For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.
In the beginning, God created...

Right... the bible says god is real, and god says the bible is accurate, in the bible. I'm convinced!
 
You mean like god? I don't know how something comes from nothing either, but I can bet that some book written thousands of years ago by men I've never met doesn't have the answers either.

Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

The bible is the best place to get your answers bro.
 
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Jesus recently revealed to me in a dream that he is a Buddhist.
 
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If its all the same to you, I'll have the prime rib & green beans.....no potatoes or apple pie.....I'm carb cutting..
 
Right... the bible says god is real, and god says the bible is accurate, in the bible. I'm convinced!

Correct, the bible confirms itself as true over and over again, here is a fun fact...

The Bible is composed of 66 parts, or books, written over a period of approximately 1,500 years (from about 1450 BC to about 90 AD) by over 40 different people. These writers were all different from each other. Some were rich, some poor, some young, some old. Some were priests, some prophets, one was a tax collector (Matthew), one was a doctor (Luke), a tentmaker (Paul), and a fisherman (Peter). Yet they all wrote about the same man who claimed to be God - Jesus Christ. You will find that they all agree about Jesus Christ, God, the Holy Spirit, the Bible, the end times, salvation, heaven, hell, etc.



 
i respect your beliefs

i enjoy reading the bible,lots of good stuff such as song of songs,ecclesiastes,lamentations,job,isaiah,romans,etc



Correct, the bible confirms itself as true over and over again, here is a fun fact...

The Bible is composed of 66 parts, or books, written over a period of approximately 1,500 years (from about 1450 BC to about 90 AD) by over 40 different people. These writers were all different from each other. Some were rich, some poor, some young, some old. Some were priests, some prophets, one was a tax collector (Matthew), one was a doctor (Luke), a tentmaker (Paul), and a fisherman (Peter). Yet they all wrote about the same man who claimed to be God - Jesus Christ. You will find that they all agree about Jesus Christ, God, the Holy Spirit, the Bible, the end times, salvation, heaven, hell, etc.



 
i respect your beliefs

i enjoy reading the bible,lots of good stuff such as song of songs,ecclesiastes,lamentations,job,isaiah,romans,etc

Thanks brother. great books, Romans has always been a favorite of mine too, among others...:coffee:
 
They really highlight the critical thinking skills of religious folks.

doesn't sound like you have much of a clue either..


we christians aren't so arrogant as to claim that we know the truth for certain, but that's where that whole faith thing comes in
 
doesn't sound like you have much of a clue either..


we christians aren't so arrogant as to claim that we know the truth for certain, but that's where that whole faith thing comes in
The certainty by which christians make their claims is a huge portion of the backlash against their views. there are major political pushes made by christians in america attempting to force religion into schools, legions of christians go out every day to irritate the world with their pamphlets and ridiculous religious claims. There are parts of this country where it is literally impossible to engage in conversation without a christian butting their know-it-all head in to assert their views. Arrogance is part and parcel with the christian ideology. Every single time a christian tells someone else they're going to hell, would you not call that arrogant certainty?
 
Is that how god was created? Surely something as complex as god had to have been created and couldn't just come from nothing?
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Famous quote: Have you ever taken a biology class.


This thread shows why congress and the church are sseparated. There have been so may interpretations of the bible, hince the forming of separate denominations as baptist, Methodist, pPentecostals etc... Where in the bible do you find Jesus or the bible in general specify any of the above to be? This my brothers is the reason American Christians are so hated by everyone world wide. Because they separate themselves from other "believers", fellow Christians because of a diffent theology on the way to heaven. Something I believe Christ himself would openly rebuke. As all denominations that are known are man made from their own interpretation of the bible and in a way can be looked at what he hated most, Pharisees and Sadducees. I hate getting into God debates, especially prove he is real ones. As folks have already made up their minds what they are going to believe regardless of what is shown through text. People want to see physical proof and even Christ said, " blessed are those who have not seen, but believe". So regardless of what any scholar "MAN" says these days, unless you have proof then folks just aren't going to believe. The only physical sign they will see, is us who call ourselves Christians acting as Christ would and as a whole in America are doing a terrible job. Again Jesus would openly rebuke for the way we are alllllllll acting as he was of love, compassion, forgiveness, healing, relationship/communion and hated the thing I hate to is religion. As religion isn't a faith or an act, but a belief in with all the knowledge you could possibly read and be driven by man. His followers had relationship, which is everything that I described Christ above. Once you have all that then you will know who God is as you know who he is.

The gay issue will never be won in this day in time because folks are way more liberal than they were 50-100 years ago. However from a Christian perspective, I don't hate them or judge them because I am not God, but I don't agree with or like what they do, but would be a friend and am a friend to me of them showing them love. That is all we can do as the "so called believers".
 
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Their electric bill would be astronomical since it would never shut off.
 
doesn't sound like you have much of a clue either..


we christians aren't so arrogant as to claim that we know the truth for certain, but that's where that whole faith thing comes in

Christians don't claim to know the truth? You're kidding right? It's the non religious folks that claim to not know, we have no problem saying that we don't know, unlike religious folks who make up ridiculous stories about the origin of earth. Here is the creation story in a nutshell:

A magical god creates a man, then takes his rib and makes a woman. They decide to eat the magical fruit at the advice of the magical talking snake, and are suddenly ashamed of being naked.
They decide to have kids, their 2 sons then have sex w their mother do she can give birth to their wives. They then screw their sisters and so on and so on.
Then there's a big flood and all of the dinosaurs perish, even the ones that live in the ocean. The animals that are on another continent have to swim across oceans to catch a ride on this boat so they won't drown in the flood.
Makes perfect sense.

Faith: the license that religious folks give each other to believe the dumbest things.
 
Where did the universe come from? The Big Bang? Where did that come from?

I bet the same spaghetti monster that created god, created the universe.
 
Just like your mother!

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"For those that maketh funeth of others mother, shall perish in spaghetti w meatballs."
 
I am a believer in Christ and in God. I just recently started reading the Bible very entertaining believe it or not . Not sure if I call my self a Christian or not but I guess I lean more toward that side. I am not a big fan of religion , because I don't think one religion is better than an other and I don't believe your gonna go to hell for believing or having a different view or life style. I take it for what it is take what I need from the word grow with that.People no matter what will have a point of view that you may or may not like that's life, never gonna change.People can be so one closed minded it kills me. To think your way is the only way haha , the ol saying there's more than one way to skin a cat. God and state should be separated, that's how our forefathers wrote it up because they knew people could not be trusted with there beliefs and the stronger the country grows the harder things would be to change but that doesn't mean we cant critique things alone the way. I don't know a whole lot about who, what, when and where but I do know this you gotta have something to believe that's greater than your self lifes not about you its about the journey , decisions, hardships , good and the bad. Who you are at the end of the day weather you believe in God , aliens or what ever you will answer for decisions you have made.
 
You're not a Christian if you believe that those from other religions aren't going to hell.
The bible is very clear that regardless of how great of a person you are, if you don't believe that Jesus is the son of god, you're going to burn in hell for eternity.
 
Ok so be it I never claimed I was . I even have gay friends Not my style not my life , but I still like em all the same. I am opened minded on most subject life's not black an white like many seem to think it is. If your gonna claim your a Christian you gotta walk the walk and talk the talk . Maybe that's why I could never find a church That I like. I still believe and teach my kids right from wrong say our prayers and are thankful for the good things in our life.
 
I'm a Christian. I've been taught that God forgives everyone and every act. Even the act of not believing.
 
I tell all my homosexuals to become a quaker, they have been conducting marriage ceremonies for gays since I was a kid ( my dad and grandparents were quaker ) and they don't believe Jesus ever condemned mutual love and monogomy even among homosexuals. Old testament laws were nullified by Jesus, including the traditional heterosexual laws that forced us women to marry our rapists , polygomy and marrying underage 11 yr olds etc. so they don't go by them. Of course,they were ahead of their time in women equality ( susan b anthony was a quaker) and not owning slaves, principles that put them on the hate list by their fellow christians back even long before the civil war.

As for Mormons, I tell my Mormon friends they are more a sub- branch of Islam. The age of prophets died with Jesus for all christians. Islam allowed for more of them from Mohammed to the twin prophets of Bahai muslims, Joseph Smith was a prophet who wrote his own biblical book just like his counterparts in Islam. EIther that or make it another Abrahamic religion, but I agree with most christians, they are not christians.....
 
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