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Should it be ok for gays to adopt children?..

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Utter nonsense.

A women having an ongoing sexual relationship is gay.

wrong. she's just being a douche cuz she got stung and will go right back to cock as soon as some guy she likes takes an interest in her. happened to a member here who got royally pissed at me for telling her she was going to end up doing exactly what she did, went back to men. i slept with a couple girls but there's not a gay cell in my body. women just don't turn me on they turn lesbians on. men turn me on. a gay guy isn't really any more capable of switching his desire to women than you are switching yours to men. unless you're secretly gay but just made a choice to live straight. then your argument makes sense. but you'd still crave the cock you'd still be gay just like a straight woman munching carpet is still straight. oy
 
i'm sitting here laughing at the thought of men deciding to turn to guys cuz they got fucked over by a woman. there'd be more gays than you could shake a stick at.
 
wrong. she's just being a douche cuz she got stung

So, just because she decides to bat from the other team, she's a douche?

Ouch.

i slept with a couple girls but there's not a gay cell in my body.

You'll notice that I said, "ongoing relationship". I did that to make it clear I wasn't talking about experimentation.

If you're okay with sleeping with women on random occasions, you're gay. You can call it anything you want, but you're gay. Even if you're a switch hitter, you're still gay.

Also...vids or it didn't happen.
 
i'm sitting here laughing at the thought of men deciding to turn to guys cuz they got fucked over by a woman. there'd be more gays than you could shake a stick at.

It's because women have a better deal on that one. Women are pretty and aesthetically pleasing for the most part. Taking sexuality out of the equation, men are hairy, ugly, disgusting creatures.

In the words of the late great Sam Kinnison:

"How does a man look at another man's hairy ass and find love?"
 
So, just because she decides to bat from the other team, she's a douche?

Ouch.



You'll notice that I said, "ongoing relationship". I did that to make it clear I wasn't talking about experimentation.

If you're okay with sleeping with women on random occasions, you're gay. You can call it anything you want, but you're gay. Even if you're a switch hitter, you're still gay.

Also...vids or it didn't happen.


i find it very hard to believe you're serious and not playing devil's advocate.

and i slept with women because the man involved in the 3somes liked it. really not gay. was 20ish and soooooo surprised how nonsexual a feeling it was. i didn't think it was gross but all i could think was it was like touching cardboard. there was none of the feelings or excitement like sex with a man. no shame or guilt just no arousal at all. get in a lamborghini put the pedal to the floor and nothing.

i think gay is simply you desire a same sex partner are aroused by them whether you act on it or not. in my opinion if a man sleeps with a woman and gets off by closing his eyes and pretending his sucking off a guy all the time he's gay he just hasn't acted on his true nature.
 
in my opinion, when gays adopt children, the children have much more of a chance of becoming gay just because of their surroundings and upbringing
why should the manufacture of gay people out of otherwise would be normal straight kids be okay?


in my opinion if a man sleeps with a woman and gets off by closing his eyes and pretending his sucking off a guy all the time he's gay he just hasn't acted on his true nature.
oh so going by the way you see it, if a guys gf wanted a 3some with another man, and she wanted him to blow the dude and everything, said dude would not be gay? just taking one for the team i guess? nope, dudes a homo
 
Homosexual behaviour widespread in animals according to new study

Homosexual behaviour widespread in animals according to new study - Telegraph

The pairing of same sex couples had previously been observed in more than 1,000 species including penguins, dolphins and primates.

However, in the latest study the authors claim the phenomenon is not only widespread but part of a necessary biological adaptation for the survival of the species.

They found that on the Hawaiian island of Oahu, almost a third of the Laysan albatross population is raised by pairs of two females because of the shortage of males. Through these 'lesbian' unions, Laysan albatross are flourishing. Their existence had been dwindling before the adaptation was noticed.

Other species form same-sex bonds for other reasons, they found. Dolphins have been known engage in same-sex interactions to facilitate group bonding while male-male pairings in locusts killed off the weaker males.

A pair of "gay" penguins recently hatched an egg at a German zoo after being given the egg that had been rejected by its biological parents by keepers.

Writing in Trends in Ecology & Evolution, Dr Nathan Bailey, an evolutionary biologist at California University, said previous studies have failed to consider the evolutionary consequences of homosexuality.

He said same homosexual behaviour was often a product of natural selection to further the survival of the species.

Dr Bailey said: "It's clear same-sex sexual behaviour extends far beyond the well-known examples that dominate both the scientific and popular literature ??? for example, bonobos, dolphins, penguins and fruit flies.

"Same-sex behaviours ??? courtship, mounting or parenting ??? are traits that may have been shaped by natural selection, a basic mechanism of evolution that occurs over successive generations," he said.

"But our review of studies also suggests that these same-sex behaviours might act as selective forces in and of themselves."
 
i'm sitting here laughing at the thought of men deciding to turn to guys cuz they got fucked over by a woman. there'd be more gays than you could shake a stick at.

You have to understand that with man its all about ego. Our alpha male ego won't let us turn that route no matter how much girls piss us off (im talking mainly about my point of view). But there is some guys who will settle for less or experiment with trannies/gays in secret because of their misfortunes with women.
 
i sure am glad i love a womans hairy gut..
 
I think its an excuse women use...

"The guy liked the idea of me with another girl, so i scissored her and ate her snatch."

I dont care how much i like a woman, im not whackin anyone off to impress her!

Honestly, women are just gayer by nature.
 
lol at people thinking that being gay is a choice. :lol:

The idea of sucking a dick for pure pleasure does not appeal to me whatsover. As open minded as I am, I could never talk myself into enjoying that.
 
in prison i think some straight men become sexually opportunistic. i know a straight guy who let a gay guy blow him. he said it wasn't better than a woman can do it as gay men claim and he couldn't cum till he fantasized it was a woman doing it. i don't think experimenting or desperation make you gay. to be gay you have to actually prefer and enjoy same sex partners. not doing gay things when that's really your preference doesn't make you straight either.
 
in my opinion, when gays adopt children, the children have much more of a chance of becoming gay just because of their surroundings and upbringing
why should the manufacture of gay people out of otherwise would be normal straight kids be okay?



oh so going by the way you see it, if a guys gf wanted a 3some with another man, and she wanted him to blow the dude and everything, said dude would not be gay? just taking one for the team i guess? nope, dudes a homo

Is exactly that: opinion. Not fact, opinion.

But you are correct about the dude being a homo when taking one for the team.
 
I think its an excuse women use...

"The guy liked the idea of me with another girl, so i scissored her and ate her snatch."

I dont care how much i like a woman, im not whackin anyone off to impress her!

Honestly, women are just gayer by nature.

actually it was the other girls idea. i was a gift she gave her boyfriend. a lot of women do that but could live in the same house for years and never just have sex with each other for pleasure.

and i personally know a girl that has gotten 2 guys that like her to kiss each other. just kiss but there's a whole sub culture of young girls out there that write slash fiction. Slash fiction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia stories usually written by females about men having sex with other men because they find it exciting. there much more stigma attached to male male activity so of course it's less common for men to fool around like that but a lot of women watch m/m gay porn. i found out about slash fiction cuz i made the comment men aren't stupid enough to do gay stuff just to get female approval. it bugs me that young girls label themselves bi simply for male approval when they really don't have a bit of true lust for other females.
 
So you think that children aren't influenced by the example of their parents?

i grew up in a violent alcoholic home. i'm neither of those things and having a lesbian mom wouldn't have made me less hot for guys. do you honestly think a gay man can decide to not be gay? not just stop the activity but the desire? i just don't. i love beautiful women they are like art but it's not sexual. i could never decide to not be aroused by men or transfer that reaction to females. i love their looks, smell, sound... i can find a woman fascinating and love things about her but it's just not desire.
 
A collegue at Columbia Presbytarian showed me how a famous dead singer's mom gave him shots as a teenager so his voice would remain in the soprano range, I won't go further since I don't know if HIPAA applies when they die. So it's not just gay parents.


Demographics wise, the gay couples adopting are in a socioeconomic class that can support and educate and provide love for these unwanted children. When I'm moonlighting in the emergency room I report too many kids to DFACS when I see the boyfriend of their drug addicted moms nearly killing them, or malnourished since their parents would rather buy drugs than food etc. So many heterosexual parents are patheticand take their kids for granted.

Any parent, whether gay or heterosexual, who goes through the rigours and expense of adoption, for the most part , really wants to take care of these kids and they are some mighty special folks.
Michael Jackson was treated at Columbia Presbyterian?:hmmm:
 
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i grew up in a violent alcoholic home. i'm neither of those things and having a lesbian mom wouldn't have made me less hot for guys. do you honestly think a gay man can decide to not be gay? not just stop the activity but the desire? i just don't. i love beautiful women they are like art but it's not sexual. i could never decide to not be aroused by men or transfer that reaction to females. i love their looks, smell, sound... i can find a woman fascinating and love things about her but it's just not desire.

tell me more:daydream:
 
tell me more:daydream:


i have a theory that women appreciate beauty in each other because as little girls we coveted beautiful dolls and as teens knew all the fashion models by their first names. if i say oh this woman is so beautiful or sexy usually most men would agree but often my male partners will say a certain guy is handsome and i just don't see it. they seem to look for odd traits that i don't think are aesthetically appealing. it's usually a very macho type male they admire.

i love my avatar. the girl's wild hair and sad, searching, soulful eyes. i love the way the artists made her lips so ripe. i dare any guy here to show a pic of a guy and say similar things. i don't desire her i find her beautiful. she is. men are not allowed to express those things about other men even if they think it. it's "gay". the stigma is mucho sucko.
 
this whole thread has been a very fascinating read. interesting points on both sides.

Most posts haven't been dealing with the original article. I'm disappointed that medical ethics would even allow something like that. That little boy is a guaranteed suicide.
 
i have a theory that women appreciate beauty in each other because as little girls we coveted beautiful dolls and as teens knew all the fashion models by their first names. if i say oh this woman is so beautiful or sexy usually most men would agree but often my male partners will say a certain guy is handsome and i just don't see it. they seem to look for odd traits that i don't think are aesthetically appealing. it's usually a very macho type male they admire.

explain further. if all this time im spending in the gym is a waste i'm going to be pissed
 
no, muscle is hot. gym time not wasted. it's usually a guy with a mustache or other manly man features. burt reynolds, the magnum pi guy, david hasselhoff types. i don't get it. i say no, Jonathan Rhys Meyers is hot and they are equally as confused. the akinator thing crono posted i did JRM it asked does he make women swoon. i said yes and it says expected answer about JRM was no :grumble:
 
no, muscle is hot. gym time not wasted. it's usually a guy with a mustache or other manly man features. burt reynolds, the magnum pi guy, david hasselhoff types. i don't get it. i say no, Jonathan Rhys Meyers is hot and they are equally as confused. the akinator thing crono posted i did JRM it asked does he make women swoon. i said yes and it says expected answer about JRM was no :grumble:

so guys were telling you that they found other men with facial hair attractive? that's very gay.

I had to look up this JRM guy. seems to be just another kid to me.

In my experience women find facial hair attractive if their fathers had facial hair. i know it has all kinds of Freudian shit written all over it, but that's just something i've noticed.
 
His parents say the hormone treatment will give him time to figure out if he wants to fully transition to being female or go through puberty as a boy.
If he chooses to stop taking the drugs, he will undergo natural male puberty at a later stage and his future fertility would not be impacted.

Read more: The California boy, 11, who is undergoing hormone blocking treatment | Mail Online

it sounds like nothing is set in stone and they are listening to their child.

I wish puberty blockers had been available to me when I was 11 years old. I knew then. And by law I could not act on my knowledge until after puberty-- after my body had solidified into the wrong shape. This might have kept me from two suicide attempts.
- Dianne, Los Angeles Ca, 01/10/2011 01:38

At 8 years old, needing to talk to someone, I wrote to a magazine columnist, to be told I was too young to know my own mind. At 19 I was diagnosed with Gender Identity Dysphoria but terrified enough by my parents to stop myself from going ahead with it. With the best will in the world, they were scared of the life I'd be setting myself up for. So now, aged 27, I am still trapped in the same female body I was born with, wishing I'd done something about it at 19. And I would've jumped at the chance to transition before puberty hit! The suicidal feelings didn't reach me until last year. I have overcome that, but the constant feeling of anxiety and desperation at being stuck in the wrong body cannot properly be understood by someone who hasn't gone through it. GID occurs in the womb. We have no control over it. My parents admit that even as a toddler I acted male. Looking at me, you wouldn't know I had GID. We're ordinary people, living with an extraordinary condition. Best of luck Tammy!
- blending in, scotland, 01/10/2011 01:12


The headline is inflammatory to say the least and as for the comments, did people not read the article? The boy is not having a sex change. He has an implant to prevent pubity to give him time to either grow out of his current need to become a girl or to decide to have a sex change when he is old enough to make the decision. If you read the article you will also see the parents are struggling with his distress and are trying to do the best thing to prevent more pain for him. I think that is excellent parenting.


and it shouldn't even need to be said but the bulk of parents faced with this issue are NOT gay couples.
 
so guys were telling you that they found other men with facial hair attractive? that's very gay.

I had to look up this JRM guy. seems to be just another kid to me.

In my experience women find facial hair attractive if their fathers had facial hair. i know it has all kinds of Freudian shit written all over it, but that's just something i've noticed.

it makes sense. my real father, who i was not raised by, is funny and plays guitar. i like funny men and most guys i date play guitar. that last guy really couldn't play though he'd just use malmsteen stuff and claim it was him.








jk :)
 
So you think that children aren't influenced by the example of their parents?

They are influenced by their parents. To say they aren't is silly. But to say that children will become homosexuals because that's what their adoptive parents are is just as silly.

Here's an example. My parents are devout practicing christians but I'm not. Being bombarded by christianity all my first 19 years should have made me just as much a bible thumper as they are. Same with my siblings. One out of five of us should have become a bible thumper. But none of us have.

Although the five of us do try to be the best people we can, so in that way we were influenced by our parents.
 
When I was jerking off at 11 years old the last thing on my mind was my parents. Sexually speaking, they didnt influence me one bit.

First off, there's more to a gay relationship than sex.

They probably effected you more than you might think. The way that you treat women is based, at least in part, how your father, and any older brothers, treated women.

To try to say that children's social development isn't heavily influenced by the parents is nothing more than denial. "I'm too cool to be like my parents." They were around you during your formative years. Especially when you were very young and your parents were everything to you.
 
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