"Sloppy" Seconds

[suprfast]

Second cycle and I can't thank Sloppy and more for the help. This is what Ill be doing.

When I pick up the DMZ ill pick up some cycle support too. Gotta keep that liver functioning.

Your thoughts?

 

[returnofthdragon]

Make sure you have more aromasin on hand. That may not be enough. It wasn't enough for me. I think heavy wrote an article about exemstane. You can find more info there.

 

[Vibrant]

I would keep the test e at 500mg for the first 6-7 weeks then bump it to 750mg.

 

[bigbenj]

I like it. Prop to kick it off, and dmz to put the icing on the cake.

 

[suprfast]

Make sure you have more aromasin on hand. That may not be enough. It wasn't enough for me. I think heavy wrote an article about exemstane. You can find more info there.

I was going to ask that if the AI was enough but I wasnt sure how to word it.
Thanks ROTD. Ill order an extra bag of x amount. What about arimidex? Is the Aromasin more than enough as long as I have plenty?

 

[returnofthdragon]

I would still have letro on hand just in case of gyno. Either way I would rather have aromasin than adex.

 

[suprfast]

I would still have letro on hand just in case of gyno. Either way I would rather have aromasin than adex.

I have a bag of 50 from my first cycle I didnt touch. Thinking about ordering a second bag of 50 just to be on the safe side. Id rather over stock then not have enough on hand. (damn I sound like those zombie Apocalypse people)

 

[pieguy]

Without 50mg of aromasin a day on 700 test p, 50mg of dbol, I'll grow moobs in a day. Order more to be safe. Why the orals gap in weeks 9 and 10? I'm one to usually increase my injectables dosage after week 7, but you might not need to since you're switching to DMZ.

 

[SloppyJ]

That's a good looking cycle you got deer.

Yeah get enough aromasin to run 25mg ED IMO. I'm not sure how much I like aromasin. My first run I used adex really successfully. My next one I ran aromasin with a little more bloat. I picked up adex to run next time and see how I like it. Aromasin on PCT for sure though. That's one thing we can all agree on.

I think you're going to love the shit out of this cycle. If you have everything dialed in you should make some nice gains really fast.

 

[suprfast]

Without 50mg of aromasin a day on 700 test p, 50mg of dbol, I'll grow moobs in a day. Order more to be safe. Why the orals gap in weeks 9 and 10? I'm one to usually increase my injectables dosage after week 7, but you might not need to since you're switching to DMZ.

After reading 100s of threads it seems to be common. Reasons ranged from all over the place but the break was needed for some reason(liver??).

I plan on having mucho aromasin. Worst case is I will have it for next cycle. tired of the liquid dosing shit. Give me tablets. Im the king of swallowing...NO HOMO

 

[suprfast]

That's a good looking cycle you got deer.

Yeah get enough aromasin to run 25mg ED IMO. I'm not sure how much I like aromasin. My first run I used adex really successfully. My next one I ran aromasin with a little more bloat. I picked up adex to run next time and see how I like it. Aromasin on PCT for sure though. That's one thing we can all agree on.

I think you're going to love the shit out of this cycle. If you have everything dialed in you should make some nice gains really fast.

Maybe Ill pick some up just to be on the safe side. If I feel it isnt working I can switch from the aro to the adex. I dont mind spending a few coins to keep from looking like bigbenj
Kidding ben, only busting your balls cause I like you in the downward dog position.

 

[GMO]

That's a good looking cycle you got deer.

Yeah get enough aromasin to run 25mg ED IMO. I'm not sure how much I like aromasin. My first run I used adex really successfully. My next one I ran aromasin with a little more bloat. I picked up adex to run next time and see how I like it. Aromasin on PCT for sure though. That's one thing we can all agree on.

I think you're going to love the shit out of this cycle. If you have everything dialed in you should make some nice gains really fast.

I have done both and prefer adex on cycle and Aromasin for PCT. That combo seems to work best for me...

Props to my man Sloppy for setting up that cycle...you have learned a lot over the last year.

 

[SloppyJ]

I have done both and prefer adex on cycle and Aromasin for PCT. That combo seems to work best for me...

Props to my man Sloppy for setting up that cycle...you have learned a lot over the last year.

Thanks to you my man.

 

[D-Lats]

Why 750mg the whole time? You will need to bump it up at the last 5 weeks. Imo

 

[SloppyJ]

1-5 he could run 500. With the extra prop in there it shouldn't be an issue. I've had great luck running a base line of 750 test and adding in different compounds to break that myostatin barrier when it pops up. But with the orals I think it will be okay. But there are 10 different ways to skin a cat.

 

[D-Lats]

Yes there is.

 

[rage racing]

That looks like a killer cycle. Props to Sloppy for helping out with this. Will this cycle be logged?

 

[suprfast]

That looks like a killer cycle. Props to Sloppy for helping out with this. Will this cycle be logged?

Will this be logged?
Does a bear wipe his ass with a fluffy white rabbit?
Hell yea I'll be logging. Can't wait already. Won't be making the purchase for another month though.

 

[dgp]

It is to big for a second cycle. Do you still want to train and do gear in ten years? If your answered yes, doing gear at this amount on your secound cylce, your body will give before you want it to. Maybe not this cycle, but it will. If you want to be a 40 somthing in the gym that like to talk about the what ifs. go for it do all the gear you can

 

[suprfast]

It is to big for a second cycle. Do you want to train and do gear ten years from now? You cant like this.

Care to elaborate as to why I can't? I always see people make suggestions but have zero evidence to back the claim.

 

[Anabolic5150]

I have to agree with dgp. No offense to Sloppy or GMO, but with that many compounds if you develop sides, what was the cause of them? Which compound is the culprit? I believe in the KISS theory, keep it simple stupid for newer users. But I'm also not one to tell you what to do, God knows I've done enough stupid shit with gear to last a lifetime.

 

[suprfast]

I have to agree with dgp. No offense to Sloppy or GMO, but with that many compounds if you develop sides, what was the cause of them? Which compound is the culprit? I believe in the KISS theory, keep it simple stupid for newer users. But I'm also not one to tell you what to do, God knows I've done enough stupid shit with gear to last a lifetime.

I appreciate that. I know I am okay on test. Only sides were a few spots of acne.

Now I have a question. Can someone produce sides on a compound that they have used many of times in the past without sides?

 

[Anabolic5150]

My fourth or fifth cycle of dbol I got really nasty acne on my back and my neck. Within 2 weeks of stopping the dbol, it started to subside. Next cycle, same thing. Could have been that particular dbol but I had used it before, I chucked it. But I've never again had the issue. So to answer your question, I think yes.

 

[dgp]

What kind of evidence do you want? If this is your 2ed cycle and your going to train for ten more years at two cycles a year. What are the next 20 cycles going to look like? You cant keep at that level for that long. I didnt touch that amount till my 7 cycle. I am only trying to help. I know it is bigger faster and more gear is the answer, but its not. If you want to be in it for the long haul be smart

 

[Anabolic5150]

More is not better in most cases, it's just more.

 

[suprfast]

What kind of evidence do you want? If this is your 2ed cycle and your going to train for ten more years at two cycles a year. What are the next 20 cycles going to look like? You cant keep at that level for that long. I didnt touch that amount till my 7 cycle. I am only trying to help. I know it is bigger faster and more gear is the answer, but its not. If you want to be in it for the long haul be smart

Just to make it clear, I wasnt flaming you I just like to know why. Anabolic explained it pretty well and it comes back to the basic, how do you know what the sides are from?

I appreciate feedback. All of it.

 

[Anabolic5150]

Just be careful with whatever you choose. Lord knows I've done some asinine cycles, but I started this later in life and didn't really give a shit. But with a new wife and baby, my stupid days are over. I've got enough gear to last 10 years now as opposed to 3-4 cycles. Just play it safe.

 

[dgp]

More is not better in most cases, it's just more.

Your body will become use to the levels of test you put in to it. That where the more is not always better comes from. If you want to train and continue to grow for the long term take it slower. This is your 2ed cycle try to think about your 3ed 4th 5th and 10th

 

[Anabolic5150]

Your body will become use to the levels of test you put in to it. That where the more is not always better comes from. If you want to train and continue to grow for the long term take it slower. This is your 2ed cycle try to think about your 3ed 4th 5th and 10th

Absolutely. I've done large amounts of gear a week, and in all honesty it was a mistake because I had to add more and more. That's why for me, blasts and cruises work so well. I'll blast for a time, then back off and cruise on my TRT dose. Lets my receptors clear out and for that next cycle I can be a bit more conservative. Just have to be smart as you said and think long term.

 

[suprfast]

What about a more conservative 500mg test e per week(1-6), 750 test e (7-9), 1g test e(10-12) with a dbol kicker and dmz on the back end?

If simplicity of compounds is the key maybe I can just up the doses? Im asking.
thanks