Today it's no where near as sore as I thought it would be. I'm actually starting to enjoy the pain now.
you freak - LOL.
what's your height and weight now?
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you freak - LOL.
what's your height and weight now?
I'm going to roll with 6'2". And last time I weighed I was at 223. I've got a some excess fat but I can see my abs and obliques. I've gained weight and lost some pretty good body fat. I'm actually excited to start cutting after the cycle. It's almost easier not eating a lot of food than it is shoving shit in your mouth every hour.
I feel like my weight is going down. But my muscles are getting much harder and bigger. This makes sense with the winny, but would it cause me to drop weight?
Yeah I expect that. Thing is I'm not done with the test yet. Can the weight loss be attributed to the winny? Possibly pushing excess water out?
Steroids dont lean you out, they allow you to not be as catabolic with reduced calories.
Muscle gain is another reason for being leaner, the requirement for fuel is higher with more muscle. Doing the same thing with more muscle burns more calories.
200 pounds at 10% bodyfat will burn more fuel than 200 pounds at 30% bodyfat.
Muscle gain is another reason for being leaner, the requirement for fuel is higher with more muscle. Doing the same thing with more muscle burns more calories.
200 pounds at 10% bodyfat will burn more fuel than 200 pounds at 30% bodyfat.
Do you know why this happened?
It could be that and yes you're missing something.
Did you run this the entire 12 weeks as you have posted in your original first post of this thread?
99.9% of people who cycle will stall at 8 weeks NO MATTER WHAT. Your myostatin levels are out of whack.
http://www.afboard.com/library/Meas...nd effects of testosterone administration.pdf
This study proves that unless you're going to stay on for good that after 8 weeks your cycle is going to stall. Moral of the story is 8 week cycles or stay on for life.
Long esters are fine, just start the gear a week or two before the actual cycle.
EQ - It's a strange compound, personally I think there are much better options for bulking or cutting.
From the article ^^
That's awesome information. Baiscally the article states that with when test is introduced, mystatin levels increase. They peak around day 56 (week 8) and then start to decline to base levels.
From the quote you see that it acts as a catylist to muscle growth. But they can also limit muscle growth when the levels decline.
Major reps and mad respect CT.
Well aint that about a bitch. Surely there is the benefit of making gains more maintainable by keeping anabolic hormones flowing for a full 12-16 weeks however? Right? Or should I just save the rest of my test for my next cycle?
Yeah, sorry for hi-jacking your thread but this is the REASON you shouldn't run a cycle more than 8 weeks. Cutting is another story though because you're just trying to preserve LBM. Glad to help out.
Update:
219# and I finally got my BF% measured. I'm sitting at 12.8%. I'm really happy about that. My diet has been pretty heafty (3.5k+) but I still managed to drop some BF. I guess I could stand to eat a little more. I think I under estimated exactly how important diet is. It's something you have to experience before you really know. Everyone says DIET, DIET, DIET. Almost to the point where it goes in one ear and out the other, but it really is the single most important aspect of the cycle.
I'm on the last week of my test right now. The last two weeks I bumped up to a 1,000mg/test just to judge sides and see what it feels like. Not going to lie. I feel like a man amongst boys right now.
The winny is in full effect and I'm also loving that. I'm getting quite vascular in places I've never been before. My muscles feel hard and I have more definition than before. Joints are very achy while working out. Just have to work thorugh the pain though. Strength has pretty much peaked. I finally broke my goal of 300lb bench also.
All in all this has been one of the best experiences I've ever had. I'm not looking forward to PCT just because of the fact that it's depressing to stop. I plan to hit a few peptides during my off cycle and drop down to atleast 10.5 BF% before I start back in June/July.
I will post a few more updates during PCT and probably a final post to close the thread and sum everything up.
I'd really like to thank everyone who has followed along or just popped in to give me advice or just shoot the shit. Not trying to get sentimental here but this almost feels like a home away from home sometimes. Thanks again guys!
219# and I finally got my BF% measured. I'm sitting at 12.8%. I'm really happy about that. My diet has been pretty heafty (3.5k+) but I still managed to drop some BF. I guess I could stand to eat a little more. I think I under estimated exactly how important diet is. It's something you have to experience before you really know. Everyone says DIET, DIET, DIET. Almost to the point where it goes in one ear and out the other, but it really is the single most important aspect of the cycle.
I'm on the last week of my test right now. The last two weeks I bumped up to a 1,000mg/test just to judge sides and see what it feels like. Not going to lie. I feel like a man amongst boys right now.
The winny is in full effect and I'm also loving that. I'm getting quite vascular in places I've never been before. My muscles feel hard and I have more definition than before. Joints are very achy while working out. Just have to work thorugh the pain though. Strength has pretty much peaked. I finally broke my goal of 300lb bench also.
All in all this has been one of the best experiences I've ever had. I'm not looking forward to PCT just because of the fact that it's depressing to stop. I plan to hit a few peptides during my off cycle and drop down to atleast 10.5 BF% before I start back in June/July.
I will post a few more updates during PCT and probably a final post to close the thread and sum everything up.
I'd really like to thank everyone who has followed along or just popped in to give me advice or just shoot the shit. Not trying to get sentimental here but this almost feels like a home away from home sometimes. Thanks again guys!
No and it's really one of the biggest regrets I have. I decided when I started that being my first cycle I wanted to experience it without it so I know both sides of the spectrum. Honestly I didn't do enough research on it before I started to include it in my cycle when I made this order.
With that being said, I do plan to include it in every cycle from here on out. But being test only for the most part, I think I will be okay. I mean there were many before me who never used HCG and did fine.
Update:
219# and I finally got my BF% measured. I'm sitting at 12.8%. I'm really happy about that. My diet has been pretty heafty (3.5k+) but I still managed to drop some BF. I guess I could stand to eat a little more. I think I under estimated exactly how important diet is. It's something you have to experience before you really know. Everyone says DIET, DIET, DIET. Almost to the point where it goes in one ear and out the other, but it really is the single most important aspect of the cycle.
I'm on the last week of my test right now. The last two weeks I bumped up to a 1,000mg/test just to judge sides and see what it feels like. Not going to lie. I feel like a man amongst boys right now.
The winny is in full effect and I'm also loving that. I'm getting quite vascular in places I've never been before. My muscles feel hard and I have more definition than before. Joints are very achy while working out. Just have to work thorugh the pain though. Strength has pretty much peaked. I finally broke my goal of 300lb bench also.
All in all this has been one of the best experiences I've ever had. I'm not looking forward to PCT just because of the fact that it's depressing to stop. I plan to hit a few peptides during my off cycle and drop down to atleast 10.5 BF% before I start back in June/July.
I will post a few more updates during PCT and probably a final post to close the thread and sum everything up.
I'd really like to thank everyone who has followed along or just popped in to give me advice or just shoot the shit. Not trying to get sentimental here but this almost feels like a home away from home sometimes. Thanks again guys!
What was your bench before the cycle?
Never really maxed but I'd say mid 200's. My chest has been the weakest part of my body for ever. But that has changed. That was my main goal on this cycle.
I see I hope I gain 50+ pounds on my bench once I start my cycle
ManInBlack
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you da man sloppy! im trying to get on your level bro, call me crazy (probably just my mind fucking with me) but it feels as if the test has already kicked in for me (4 pins in). who knows, i doubt it but whatever
MIB, I'd say the mental aspect of being on cycle is one of the strongest side effects. Those first few weeks you're just waiting for it to happen and you're going really hard in the gym pushing yourself naturally. And then you get in that mindset and it actually starts to kick in and every workout is like a challenge trying to out-do yourself....Then you peak and add more test. hahaha
The best thing you can do for yourself is focus on that diet. TRACK your food to ensure you're getting enough calories and protein. You simply will not grow without it.
The best thing you can do for yourself is focus on that diet. TRACK your food to ensure you're getting enough calories and protein. You simply will not grow without it.
ManInBlack
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hey man i hear ya, thanks for the tips.....yeah im really trying hard not to miss any meals and to get my 4k cals in daily...so far so good brotha
malfeasance
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I dunno, man, I had D-bol, too, but three pins in and I was sweating like a pig at night, balls a little smaller, something was going on - definitely stronger, and pushing past where I had been stuck naturally for years.
Not as strong as I was in my late 20s, but stronger than I had managed to become for a long time now training naturally.
Something was going on early.
ManInBlack
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yeah guys, i tell ya what, i am convinced after today's workout that the test has already begun to kick in. strength was definitely up and im just looking thicker
