Something Wicked This Way Comes

[* Legion *]

(You been smokin the weed?)

Take a deep breath at work -
(It's never worth your health or your family)
One of the reasons I have not strived for a higher level of management

The Olympic lifting is like nothing I have ever done before...
I'm having fun learning, I purposely gave up all the exercises
that the BB guys like to whore on,
now I laugh at them as I stride to the back and start throwing barbells on the floor,
I can do a whole workout from the same spot

I completely agree with you, my friend. Concentration curls? Bah. And no, no weed for me. Just a bit too much coffee and a stimulating poker game tonight, now im trying to figure out how to teach Math to gangbangers on Tuesday.

 

[ihateschoolmt]

Damn legion, I think your 400 posts have more text than my 2500.

 

[* Legion *]

Damn legion, I think your 400 posts have more text than my 2500.

yeah, i should shut up.

im a poet. i think out loud.

 

[ihateschoolmt]

yeah, i should shut up.

im a poet. i think out loud.

I don't mean to get into your presonal stuff, but are you natural?

 

[* Legion *]

I don't mean to get into your presonal stuff, but are you natural?

ask away, friend.

natural... like, do i do roids? all natural here. just eat a lot, take my whey. creatine makes me sick, tried andro 2 years ago before it became illegal, it really did not do much. i have been tempted to juice, but thats all it is, a temptation. from what i read on this forum, i am too young still. and why? why would i do that? natural is me, and its me that is in the gym. i am touchy enough, agitated enough. i don't need a chemical personality. i have an addictive personallity, and have battled addiction in the past, and don't want to tempt fate with anything else.

 

[ihateschoolmt]

ask away, friend.

natural... like, do i do roids? all natural here. just eat a lot, take my whey. creatine makes me sick, tried andro 2 years ago before it became illegal, it really did not do much. i have been tempted to juice, but thats all it is, a temptation. from what i read on this forum, i am too young still. and why? why would i do that? natural is me, and its me that is in the gym. i am touchy enough, agitated enough. i don't need a chemical personality. i have an addictive personallity, and have battled addiction in the past, and don't want to tempt fate with anything else.

Your not too young lol. Maybe just not experienced enough. Steroids aren't addictive, though. I know what your saying though I've battled addiction too. More than once.

 

[* Legion *]

Your not too young lol. Maybe just not experienced enough. Steroids aren't addictive, though. I know what your saying though I've battled addiction too. More than once.

I know they are not addictive. I am just confused about steroids. i have researched them quite a bit, but i think im missing something. i have read that they really don't impact strength the way they do muscle size. but i have also read accounts of oly weightlifters using them for strength gains. what gives?

 

[The Monkey Man]

I have never juiced but have watched many that train around me do it
Most made gains, but not much more than what I did -

So we play where are they now??? Most are fat, and don't train at all -

It was a quick way to get what they wanted,
But I want the lifestyle, not the moment, this is something that lasts -

 

[* Legion *]

I have never juiced but have watched many that train around me do it
Most made gains, but not much more than what I did -

So we play where are they now??? Most are fat, and don't train at all -

It was a quick way to get what they wanted,
But I want the lifestyle, not the moment, this is something that lasts -

AGAIN i concur with Monkeyman. well said. i am a purist, and besides, my son is my world. i could not be a good father, based on my own personal values, and do something like that. if i was a single man, certainly. but i would do anything for Sean, do anything, or not do some things for him. this is one of them.

 

[ihateschoolmt]

I know they are not addictive. I am just confused about steroids. i have researched them quite a bit, but i think im missing something. i have read that they really don't impact strength the way they do muscle size. but i have also read accounts of oly weightlifters using them for strength gains. what gives?

There are steroids for strength and ones for size. I will find you examples in a minute.

 

[King Silverback]

Brother Legion, I completely agree with you my Friend!!! My LilBit IS my life too, and I will do anything for her, and nothing that would jeopardize her and I together!!! My wife and daughter are the 2 most important woman in my life, and I never, NEVER want to be without them!!! You are an admireable person my Friend!!!

 

[Rocco32]

AGAIN i concur with Monkeyman. well said. i am a purist, and besides, my son is my world. i could not be a good father, based on my own personal values, and do something like that. if i was a single man, certainly. but i would do anything for Sean, do anything, or not do some things for him. this is one of them.

Great post here. I don't think Steroids help in Oly lifts as much because of the explosiveness. They will increase strength but explosiveness is more important.

I've definately considered 'roids and still do time to time. But I have an addictive and impatient personality as well and while I think roids can be used in a safe manner, someone like me will undoubtedly end up abusing them.

 

[The Monkey Man]

I guess that was the case with many of the guys I lifted with in my mid 20's
addictive personalities...

I know myself too, and I could very well get hooked on the rush of Roids...
I loved the rush of PH's, and thats small time according to most of the
hardcore guys in here

So I think I'll just stick to being a regular guy -

 

[DeadBolt]

Man i don't know where to start its been so long since I've been in here. Legion you made some really great posts....really heart touching...your such a great guy!!!

As for the roids I think it depends on the person! They are the shoot you load in 2 second trainers that juice up an extra 50lbs then stop lifting. I think those who have made it a lifestyle already are the ones that benefit the most b/c they wont just stop once they reached their goals b/c they know how to play the game. They know you stop lifting you stop growing you stop everything so you can't just flat out stop.

as for being addictive and wanting a quick fix...c'mon everyone would like to take the easy way out the only thing that stops people are the health reasons IMO. Thats the only thing....and of course it will be addiciting. Not the drug itself but the strength and size gains will want you to keep juicin so you are always imrpoving. Not sure if that made sense but in my head it did! LOL

 

[FishOrCutBait]

As far as Gear goes, its near impossible to get a biological addiction because it doesnt stimulate the pleasure centers in the brain, from what i understand. HOWEVER, psychological addiction is very possible...

 

[The Monkey Man]

Where's the big guy today???

Must have been a rough day in the prison school -

 

[DeadBolt]

Where's the big guy today???

Must have been a rough day in the prison school -

That'd be my guess! C'mon back big guy!

 

[* Legion *]

That'd be my guess! C'mon back big guy!

Awwww, C'mon. Yer making me feel all sissy wussy inside.
Things are fine. I'm just adjusting to the new schedule. This year I have the eight most at risk kids in the school, and its a rough road to establishing both trust and dominance. I end up in a physical management with one or several of them daily, (physical management= restraint for the purpose of safety of student/staff due to physical acting out) and rush to either pick up my son at day care or my night shift at work. I have had to rearrange my workouts, going from six workouts a week to none, now realizing that i have time for FOUR workouts weekly, which jsut doesn't seem like enough. WHat do you guys think? My goal is serious mass/strength. I want my muscles back.

 

[WATTS]

i think you will do fine with 4 days a week....will give your body a little more rest to grow. just need to rethink your workouts a little bit to make everything fit. you'll do fine though. so what is your split your ganna be doing(like what days)? maybe we can help ya compose something.

so what grade do you teach? the physical management sounds kinda tough.


is the title of your journal from an ICP song? reminds me of one. lol.

 

[FishOrCutBait]

Lol, no, thats from a really old poem...

 

[DeadBolt]

4 days is plenty!! You just gotta work the right lifts for the right days!!! Hit em hard and hit em......well hard LOL.

I know you like to use oly lifts so I can't help ya there but ask P he will be able to help ya out some more then i could!

 

[FishOrCutBait]

Yeah, P-funk'll show you whats up!

 

[Rocco32]

Good stuff and advice in here. I like what you do for a job Legion, very respectable

 

[ihateschoolmt]

Four days is plenty, do
day 1: squat work
day 2: bench work
day 3: off
day 4: olympic work
day 5: off
day 6:deadlift and back work
day 7: off

Or something like that. How many weeks left until you switch completely to olympic work? Those routine can be done with 4 days a week pretty well too.

 

[* Legion *]

Two days on, good to be back in the game. Yesterday, kicked things off with a non-deadlift back routine.

Heavy barbell rows
185x2x12 warmup
225x8
225x8
315x2 (felt strain in lower back)

Dumbbell one-arm rows

135x8
155x 3
135x8
135x8

supported reverse-grip rows (head supported on incline bench)

3 sets 135lbs complete failure

Close grip pullups x 40
Double drop wide grip pulldowns
1 set 200/150/80/20

Hammer Curls

3 double drop sets
65/50/35



I was scheduled to do heavy squats today, but my hams and glutes were taxed and sore from yesterday, which i did not anticipate. Biceps and lats sore, traps sore, even delts were sore. I did not want to take the day off today, so i did moderate weight bench work. Went something like this.

Rack Bench

2 sets 285 lbs x 3 reps (weight starting off at chest)
3 sets 225 x 5 reps, jump immediately on bench for burnout reps @135 following each set

2 sets cable crossovers (usually dont do these, but lats and back were sore, needed something to finish off the pecs.)

 

[P-funk]

lol...155lb db row....FREAK!

 

[The Monkey Man]

lol...155lb db row....FREAK!

... Yeah, no crap!?!?

"315x2 (felt strain in lower back)" -

Last time I tried 275, I blew out a hernia -

 

[* Legion *]

lol...155lb db row....FREAK!

FREAK??? is this that crazy? There is a silly dumbbell handle in my gym that no one uses, weighs almost 11 pounds. I throw on four 25 lbs, four 10's. Funny, its still a pretty strict movement! Ill get video, I SWEAR TO GOD this is legit. I love it, it rips up my obliques too.

Mudge is big on rowing, and after reading his journal, I worked in the heavy barbell rows, which I haven't done in almost a year. My gut was to do them on the smith machine, but i like to keep it old school, so I did them with ass out and chin up, but I missed my one arm db rows. Scared the chatty teenages away, thats for sure. I sweated up the flat bench i was using. Almost let one rip.

 

[P-funk]

I think a 155lb one arm DB row is pretty crazy. The DBs in my gym only go up to 100 and i can get that for about 12-15 reps in one set. I could maybe handle a 120lb DB for 5 reps.

 

[* Legion *]

Is it counter productive to go that heavy? I get results, so I assume I'm answering my own question. With all the deadlifting I do, I usually don't like the barbell rows without support. Strains the back. Does being tall leave my lower back more susceptible to injury? I used to think I knew what I was doing, but I come here to learn.