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Something Wicked This Way Comes

* Legion * said:
Is it counter productive to go that heavy? I get results, so I assume I'm answering my own question. With all the deadlifting I do, I usually don't like the barbell rows without support. Strains the back. Does being tall leave my lower back more susceptible to injury? I used to think I knew what I was doing, but I come here to learn.


I don't think it is counter productive to go heavy at all. One arm DB rows are supported....your non-working arm is stretched out supporting the upper body. I used to do lots of heavy bent rows but then I read something Dr. Leistner said about it placing the lumbar spine in a tough position because of the weight you can use on the exercise and being prone like that and rowing. So I stopped. I recently through them back in though. As long as your form is good you should be okay. Being tall and having a long torso can place more strain on the back though because of the distance the weight is being held from the lumbar spine. I try and do supported rows as much as possible but occasionally will do them bent over without support.
 
At my old gym we had DBs that went to 160...
The highest I could ever hit was 150's x8rx4s
when I was young and strong - :laugh:

* Legion * said:
Excellent.

How do I post video on the forum?
I used PUTFILE.COM seemed to work pretty well
Then posted the link to PUTFILE - :shrug:
 
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Holy cow my Friend, Incredible weights there!!! I can't wait to see the video!!! I take my hat off to you BRother Legion!!! Hows it goin? Hope life is taking it easy on you and yours!!!
 
Monkeyman: Thank you for the help. I feel like a geek going to the gym with a video camera, but i can keep it discreet.

Archangel: Whats up brother? Thanks for the encouragement, but what I make up in numbers, I lose in my between set rest time.
 
Heya bro damn awsome weights. I agree with the majority you are sick LOL. I will have to try some heavy DB rows...for a while they would hurt my shoulder (after the torn cuff) so I only did them light but maybe this tuesday I'll try and do em nice and heavy!! Good idea LOL.
 
DeadBolt said:
Heya bro damn awsome weights. I agree with the majority you are sick LOL. I will have to try some heavy DB rows...for a while they would hurt my shoulder (after the torn cuff) so I only did them light but maybe this tuesday I'll try and do em nice and heavy!! Good idea LOL.


i admit, i have nasty shoulder problems when i bench, but keeping the elbow in and pulling the dumbbell to my serratus muscle really do not hurt my shoulders at all. they are my favorite back exercise, next to deadlifts. honestly, i got the best development from using db rows, pullups, and deadlifts, with some cleans.
 
* Legion * said:
i admit, i have nasty shoulder problems when i bench, but keeping the elbow in and pulling the dumbbell to my serratus muscle really do not hurt my shoulders at all. they are my favorite back exercise, next to deadlifts. honestly, i got the best development from using db rows, pullups, and deadlifts, with some cleans.
:thumb: I'll try em tomorrow....off to shower just got back from a big fire!!
 
Legion do you work in DOC in Saint Charles?I have visted family their not a good place.
 
waking_life said:
Legion do you work in DOC in Saint Charles?I have visted family their not a good place.


ouch, i completely understand. no, i work at a place in Hillside. i have students that have both come from and are going to DOC. we take all students, there is no expulsion, no suspension. the only way out is graduation or jail.
 
My family is good.I'm sure you are grateful of your upbringing see how some kids are raised these days.I'm from Monmouth which an hour west of Peoria.15 minutes from Iowa.Keep up the big numbers.Go White Sox
 
* Legion * said:
Are things that bad? Wherabouts are you from?
Detroit...

They aren't criminals, they are from another galaxy I think - :hmmm:
 
waking life: yes, I know where Monmouth is, we played them in High School for football championships (I went to Driscoll Catholic) Its too easy to blame anyone, parents, kids, tv, government... this is a problem bigger than anyone. I am on the front lines with these boys, and it is more than being an "angry teenager." I am writing a book about what its like. Its interesting to read particular threads on this forum, with different people spouting off about the government and racism and whatever. I care a great deal for these guys. I get my hands dirty working with the spite and the aggression... behind which is still just a kid needing to be needed.

Monkeyman.. Detroit.. what a place. My father almost moved us to Flint fifteen years ago.... SHEESH. I really don't think i need to say anything about that.
 
Flint Sux bad...

It's small and it really doesn't have any nice suburbs to escape to - :scared:
 
The Monkey Man said:
Flint Sux bad...

It's small and it really doesn't have any nice suburbs to escape to - :scared:


Around here, there really is not such thing as a suburb.
 
Brother Legion, hows life treatin you and yours? I hope all is well my Friend!!!
 
Archangel said:
Brother Legion, hows life treatin you and yours? I hope all is well my Friend!!!

Things are good, my friend. We are wondering if I might be a Daddy again.
 
A second on the Amazing Abmastical Aggie's (im a hick, dont worry) comment! If so, big congrats! Those are some kids that'll learn the difference between right and wrong, the world can be sure of that!
 
Back, beat, and feeling pumped. Great workout tonight, following a mediocre deadlift/front squat routine yesterday. Tonight was bench work, reverse grips from the low rack, ripped out five sets of five at 235 lbs. Feeling strong, hit close grips for four sets of seven or eight at 200. Hit the hammer dip/pressdown thing, then hammer curls, then a set of incline cables just to hit the upper pecs. I hate incline benching, but my pecs look funky because the middle is so much thicker than the upper pec over my clavicle.

My schedule is down to a science now, so few excuses to keep me from the iron. I feel strong again, big, and despite a few bangs and bruises from teaching, healthy.


I picked up a ten pound keg of sportpharma whey protein from Costco... any good? I dunno, but right now, I'm not worried so much about super high quality protein powder, because some is better than none. The GNC here is a RIPOFFF... and I make it policy not to order online, since I had my card number intercepted and screwed up a couple of years ago.

Thanks for checking in guys and gals, I appreciate the kindness. I apologize to those whose journal I normally visit, I will be around more soon.
 
good job on the close grip!
 
P-funk said:
good job on the close grip!


Man, they feel awesome. I try and keep it slow and tight, and I find that these, paired with dips and the occasional cable pressdown, work my triceps for both strength and mass better than the single joint movements like kickbacks and skullcrushers.
 
P-funk said:
good job on the close grip!


You came to mind yesterday in the gym, I was doing front squats, and did a set or three of cleans, but kept hitting my legs with my elbows when I went low for the catch. I know this is a disqualification. I have been trying to do my front squats with the "clean style" grip, keeping my upper arms high and stable. These are a great deal harder than the "crossover" type grip I had been using, and is a bit hard on the wrists.
Also, I did two sets of front squat to push press, which are wicked. Keeping the momentum on 225 lbs to a push press is fun, but hard on my neck.
 
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