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And for the record since you made it clear earlier..... I am a certified trainer..... A LOT OF THE SHIT WE ARE TAUGHT is outdated and traditional horseshit.......I can admit that....
 
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Can't say I NEEDED them....but I waited until I thought I did... NO REGRETS.... I'm not an athlete like I was anymore.....Aesthetics man.....and strength goals....my choice
 
I ran a 4.4 (40 yd dash) @ 205 lbs natural....and my squat was high 400s as stated....I ran over linebackers because my legs were so strong.....never would have happened had I waited until I was 18 to lift heavy "aka like a man"

Exactly.
 
No you cannot, you haven't a clue what you are talking about.
i know what i am talking about in fact i competed in track and field 100m and long jump ,
i ran the 100m in 11.5 secs at 17 years old, my friend did it in 10.5 sec yes 10.5 sec at 17 (national record holder) ! no steroids no nothing, he could not probably squat 200 lbs.
some olympic women athletes are faster than you and they cannot squat 150lbs
 
You rboy would have gotten fuckin steamrolled on a football field....what did he weigh? 150lbs.... Much more impressive for my buddy who was 195 minimum and ran a 10.7... trucked mutha fuckers
 
You rboy would have gotten fuckin steamrolled on a football field....what did he weigh? 150lbs.... Much more impressive for my buddy who was 195 minimum and ran a 10.7... trucked mutha fuckers
actually he was not into football but he was not a small guy either, don';t underestimate some people 's natural strength , weight lifting is not the whole story at all.
And for the record neither you nor anybody who is healthy needs steroids ,,that is your choice but it does not mean you NEED them.
 
i know what i am talking about in fact i competed in track and field 100m and long jump ,
i ran the 100m in 11.5 secs at 17 years old, my friend did it in 10.5 sec yes 10.5 sec at 17 (national record holder) ! no steroids no nothing, he could not probably squat 200 lbs.
some olympic women athletes are faster than you and they cannot squat 150lbs

Wrong again, Ben Johnson could rep 600 lbs 6 times. Tyson Grey can squat at least 450, there is a YouTube video of him doing it.
 
Just curious BJG...why do you lift weights.....Crossfit? Thats a joke....I'm 30 fucking years old...I like being bigger and stronger than those around me...My choice to do what I want...Be bigger than you and A LOT other guys is MY choice.... DONT GIVE A SHIT if I do it natty or not... IN the end I am still bigger
 
actually he was not into football but he was not a small guy either, don';t underestimate some people 's natural strength , weight lifting is not the whole story at all.
And for the record neither you nor anybody who is healthy needs steroids ,,that is your choice but it does not mean you NEED them.

Tell that to Shawne Merriman
 
I think you miss the point. Barry Bonds didn't take steroids to become a great baseball player. He was a first ballet HOF'er without them. He took steroids to add a few years to his career, stay healthier, and smash the shit out of the ball.
 
Just curious BJG...why do you lift weights.....Crossfit? Thats a joke....I'm 30 fucking years old...I like being bigger and stronger than those around me...My choice to do what I want...Be bigger than you and A LOT other guys is MY choice.... DONT GIVE A SHIT if I do it natty or not... IN the end I am still bigger

i am 50 years old being in bodybuilding for 35 years worked out with the best and learned from the best and developed my own technique;;my aim is to improve my body my looks my strength and of course this leads to bigger ,,i enjoy doing it and i can see around me that many young steroid users cannot even compare to me as we challenge each other from time to time for fun,and i am proud that what i have done is all natty and healthy,people pushed me into roids saying that with my genetics ill be a monster,,,but never wanted to sheat nature,At my age i am 5'5 170 lbs arms 16 inches can bench press 315 lbs can squat 365can military press 220 but i can also do 120 pushups in a row followed by 20 complete chin ups and can pull down any rack you want
never touched steroids and do not feel the need to since my body is still improving
 
by the way i forgot to mention that some soccer players are 5'5 and can kick that ball for speeds above 120mph you don't want to be the goalkeeper.
Ben johnson can squat my ass for 6 reps., no sprinter can squat 600 lbs, what he can squat more than 3 times his body weight or what?
 
At my peak completely natty....205lbs 375 bench.....505 squat....495 dead.... 9% BF.....
At my best "enhanced" 218 lbs....445 bench....585 squat...550 dead x 2..... 10% BF....
I'd Say I was happier at 218 lbs.....wouldnt you.... and BTW I'm a hair under 6 foot
 
Vernon Davis ran a 4.38 40 at the NFL combine. Thats flying for a guy that's 6-3, 250 lbs and could squat 685 pounds.
 
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At my peak completely natty....205lbs 375 bench.....505 squat....495 dead.... 9% BF.....
At my best "enhanced" 218 lbs....445 bench....585 squat...550 dead x 2..... 10% BF....
I'd Say I was happier at 218 lbs.....wouldnt you.... and BTW I'm a hair under 6 foot

Nice stats. I could always pull more than I could squat. I think it was mental.
 

Haha, my old roommate was on the track team. He ran the 60 meter indoor and squatted harder than anyone I knew. He always said squatting was the main exercise to help get out of the blocks.
 
Thats the truth....explosion out of the blocks.....thats the other reason I could squat so well...good form and every sport I played was explosive...(tail back, 100m and 200m dash, lacrosse)
 
BJG you always troll on IM and it ALWAYS ends up with a debate about AAS.

Go back to bodybuilding . com
 
BJG you always troll on IM and it ALWAYS ends up with a debate about AAS.

Go back to bodybuilding . com

ANIMALHOUSE i do what i feel like doing ..in the end i know about training more than you will ever will and i am helping many on this forum at least more than you are..all you do is encourage bad habits and never discuss any training technique,,so you can go back to your roids. Anyways this is not the subject of this thread ..
 
and normally a 13 years old is not mature enough to keep a proper technique when lifting and might try something stupid when alone.
the teen years are for learning proper technique
my son is 18 he has been bodybuilding for less than a year (he was into other sports and still is) and i don't encourage him to bench press more than 135 lbs and shoulder press more than 95 lbs and squat more than 135 lbs although he can do much more than that
he has excellent form but i am not always with him to watch him.
At his age no need to lift heavy to gain muscles, in less than a year he gained the same as many teens in the gym lifting heavy and taking steroids..
he has time to go heavy, strength should be built slowly , you have to give your body , your joints , your tendons time to grow slowly and surely, ...any rushing can lead to injury and does not provide long lasting results.

Most people and many in this forum miss the whole thing , they miss the the secret of bodybuilding which is: Time... you build your body slowly , Most want results as quick as possible and at any price this is surely the wrong way for a young bodybuilder.

ANIMALHOUSE i do what i feel like doing ..in the end i know about training more than you will ever will and i am helping many on this forum at least more than you are..all you do is encourage bad habits and never discuss any training technique,,so you can go back to your roids. Anyways this is not the subject of this thread ..

Then why did you throw this zinger in there? Congratulations! You know more about Training techniques, and I can out lift you in any and every exercise.

Keep up the good work! :jerkit:
 
dude at 17 benching over 315 lbs means you were on something bad..not very smart at all.

And this one! Who the fuck are you to call out someone like that? Just because you and your son can't lift heavy doesn't mean others can't lift heavy without being on "someing bad".
 
And this one! Who the fuck are you to call out someone like that? Just because you and your son can't lift heavy doesn't mean others can't lift heavy without being on "someing bad".

Animalhaus go back to your barn and learn how to lift coz you'r still below the required level......
 
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