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Thirds on clen. Stack it with Alpha T2 (PES) for some AWESOME results, assuming your diet is in check.
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Miketheraower
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EC Stack!!
SurfsideRyan
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SWIM uses clen and he says it works fantastic, although they told me you have to be extremely careful with dosage and make sure you have an accurate oral syringe (without pin) in order to properly use clen. SWIM said to do some serious research on the dosing, side effects, and proper use of taking clen if someone chose to do it.
SWIM also told me its pretty easy to get a hold of if you know where to look
SWIM also told me its pretty easy to get a hold of if you know where to look
boxingorilla
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Oxyelite Pro is a sweet product for weight loss, gave me tons of energy without a crash and curbed my appetite (which is shocking, considering I can eat like none other haha)
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roflmao!!!!!i hate country though!
these 3 are the best otc fat burners or maybe try eca stack
ive done clen and it really just dries me out not real weight loss besides water imo, sucks for appetite suppresion and actually makes me hungrier, can get cramps/shakes
started t3 on cycle and started dropping weight but also increased cardio so hard to discipher which is working
i use bronkaid from walgreens with a nodose, usually once or twice a day, sometimes i have coffee with it too in the morning. so 25mg of ephedrine sulfate with 2-3.. or 400 mg of caffine maybe. i do this bout 4 or 5 days of the week.
VolcomX311
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Synthetek
Syntheselen / Synthetine combo!
They also have a few others, SyntheBURN, SyntheBLOCKplus, etc. Check out their website:
Synthetek Industries - Innovative Bodybuilding Products
Syntheselen / Synthetine combo!
They also have a few others, SyntheBURN, SyntheBLOCKplus, etc. Check out their website:
Synthetek Industries - Innovative Bodybuilding Products
BigPapaPump68
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Probably the best I've tried in years.. I don't use them that much but was very impressed by it
flexmichigan
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L Carnitine L Tartrate added to any fat burner is the shizzzznit
THIS!
If you want a good aid for fatloss without any negative sides this is the way
to go.
Both increase your feeling of well being and Syntheselen also give you
awesome increase in vascularity.
Can't go wrong with either or both.
GMO
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Cardio/diet/eca stack
packers6211
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BPS Combustion from Orbitnutrition.com. Raw energy and no jitters. 1-2 caps a day and best of all it's not going to make you go broke.
HA! Finally another! this product works great for me as well
fatburners
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The loss of fat or muscle development is impossible without using an organized feeding strategy consisting of fat burning foods . In the following paragraphs, I will tell you how to build a highly effective diet program to integrate these powerful foods.
1) The beef meat is one of the foods that burn fat fast, as lean red meat is composed of high quality protein, helps in increasing muscle tissue which helps to burn body fat . Large amounts of B vitamins, zinc, creatine also are found in lean red meat, all these promote further development of muscle and speed recovery between sessions.
2) The next in the list of fat burning foods are chicken and turkey without skin. Not only do these cuts of meat have basically no fat or additives, but these are also loaded with protein, causing increased muscle development and weight loss
3) fatty acids Omega 3.son certainly healthy and are found in large quantities in fish oil, so be sure to incorporate these is your nutrition plan. Marine foods contain protein for muscle development and fat loss
4) The eggs certainly qualifies as one of the foods that burn fat fast . A good complement to almost any meal at any time of day, the eggs have the highest quality protein of all foods
5) One of the foods that burn fat fast is the cottage cheese. The cottage cheese provides all the vitamins and minerals which are found in skim milk, and it delivers about 15 grams of protein for each serving of a cup and a half.
6) Whey Protein, is sometimes seen as a supplement, is derived from 100% natural sources and is seen among the list of foods that burn fat fast . Well suited for promoting muscle growth and reduce fat, high protein content in serum is the best access.
7) The greens are probably the best fat burning foods , because the greens have very few calories, they could be eaten in large quantities without fear of ingesting calories. In order to optimize the reduction of fat, incorporating these types of vegetables with meals you can.
An unexpected entry in the list of fat burning foods is avocado, that's actually one of the best. The vast majority of fats in the avocado is unsaturated, which makes it healthy, regardless of their apparent high fat levels. Incorporate small amounts of avocado in your diet reducing fat can have some good results and is why these are among the foods that burn fat fast.
1) The beef meat is one of the foods that burn fat fast, as lean red meat is composed of high quality protein, helps in increasing muscle tissue which helps to burn body fat . Large amounts of B vitamins, zinc, creatine also are found in lean red meat, all these promote further development of muscle and speed recovery between sessions.
2) The next in the list of fat burning foods are chicken and turkey without skin. Not only do these cuts of meat have basically no fat or additives, but these are also loaded with protein, causing increased muscle development and weight loss
3) fatty acids Omega 3.son certainly healthy and are found in large quantities in fish oil, so be sure to incorporate these is your nutrition plan. Marine foods contain protein for muscle development and fat loss
4) The eggs certainly qualifies as one of the foods that burn fat fast . A good complement to almost any meal at any time of day, the eggs have the highest quality protein of all foods
5) One of the foods that burn fat fast is the cottage cheese. The cottage cheese provides all the vitamins and minerals which are found in skim milk, and it delivers about 15 grams of protein for each serving of a cup and a half.
6) Whey Protein, is sometimes seen as a supplement, is derived from 100% natural sources and is seen among the list of foods that burn fat fast . Well suited for promoting muscle growth and reduce fat, high protein content in serum is the best access.
7) The greens are probably the best fat burning foods , because the greens have very few calories, they could be eaten in large quantities without fear of ingesting calories. In order to optimize the reduction of fat, incorporating these types of vegetables with meals you can.
An unexpected entry in the list of fat burning foods is avocado, that's actually one of the best. The vast majority of fats in the avocado is unsaturated, which makes it healthy, regardless of their apparent high fat levels. Incorporate small amounts of avocado in your diet reducing fat can have some good results and is why these are among the foods that burn fat fast.
MattPorter
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That is true if you are expending more energy than you take in. Nutrient rich foods, but eat just THE RIGHT amount, while doing cardio and weight training.
HOWEVER --
For an OTC fat burner --- I have used Chaotic Labz --MALICE and love this stuff! Euphoria is through the roof, something like an old school ECA stack without the heart palpitations..
Just off of 1 (ONE) single dose, this stuff is crazy, unless I got some special bottle that was laced.
For NON OTC --
Bronkaid ephedrine sulphate + caffeine + white willow + yohimbine
Clen/T3
Hgh/T4/Tren --- game over.
-Matt
That is true if you are expending more energy than you take in. Nutrient rich foods, but eat just THE RIGHT amount, while doing cardio and weight training.
HOWEVER --
For an OTC fat burner --- I have used Chaotic Labz --MALICE and love this stuff! Euphoria is through the roof, something like an old school ECA stack without the heart palpitations..
Just off of 1 (ONE) single dose, this stuff is crazy, unless I got some special bottle that was laced.
For NON OTC --
Bronkaid ephedrine sulphate + caffeine + white willow + yohimbine
Clen/T3
Hgh/T4/Tren --- game over.
-Matt
Hi dear,
I am not in the favor of using fat burning medicines and fat burning supplement because most of these have sever side effects. You simply use the fat loss foods such as green vegetables, citric fruits, and green tea for the fat burning.
I am not in the favor of using fat burning medicines and fat burning supplement because most of these have sever side effects. You simply use the fat loss foods such as green vegetables, citric fruits, and green tea for the fat burning.
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ForgeFit
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With all of the DMAA (geranium / 1,3 dimethylamylamine) supplements out there that feel like you're on crack, don't be fooled. You HAVE to be aware that DMAA has NOT actually been shown to cause fat loss.
In fact, a recent study showed that unlike ephedrine, caffeine, green tea and other "proven" fat burning ingredients, DMAA does NOT actually increase levels of the body's most important fat burning hormones epinephrine and norepinephrine (adrenalin and noradrenalin). The same study showed that it increase blood pressure substantially. It also decreases blood flow (via the same "vasoconstriction" effect that causes the high blood pressure), which is exactly the opposite effect you want before training!
Also, lately there have been several incidents of potential negative side effects (although DMAA is probably only going to have these side effects in a small number of users). Not sure if I'm allowed to give a link but here's where I read about the study - NEW Startling Geranium Study - It Increases Blood Pressure but NOT Adrenalin! - Fitness Inventor
The problem with Clenbuterol of course is that it only works for like a week to ten days and then your body adapts and the effects are lost. You can cycle it but you still lose the effects quite quickly.
As far as the best fat burners, here in the UK a product called Grenade has become the best seller and it's only been out for year and a half. It already outsells Oxy Elite, Lipo-6 Black, Hydroxycut, Meltdown, RoxyLean, etc. Anyhow, it definitely gives you energy, burns fat and decreases appetite and doesn't have any DMAA, so perhaps give it a try?
In fact, a recent study showed that unlike ephedrine, caffeine, green tea and other "proven" fat burning ingredients, DMAA does NOT actually increase levels of the body's most important fat burning hormones epinephrine and norepinephrine (adrenalin and noradrenalin). The same study showed that it increase blood pressure substantially. It also decreases blood flow (via the same "vasoconstriction" effect that causes the high blood pressure), which is exactly the opposite effect you want before training!
Also, lately there have been several incidents of potential negative side effects (although DMAA is probably only going to have these side effects in a small number of users). Not sure if I'm allowed to give a link but here's where I read about the study - NEW Startling Geranium Study - It Increases Blood Pressure but NOT Adrenalin! - Fitness Inventor
The problem with Clenbuterol of course is that it only works for like a week to ten days and then your body adapts and the effects are lost. You can cycle it but you still lose the effects quite quickly.
As far as the best fat burners, here in the UK a product called Grenade has become the best seller and it's only been out for year and a half. It already outsells Oxy Elite, Lipo-6 Black, Hydroxycut, Meltdown, RoxyLean, etc. Anyhow, it definitely gives you energy, burns fat and decreases appetite and doesn't have any DMAA, so perhaps give it a try?
patternsco
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strongest is dnp but that is dangerous stuff!
patternsco
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best otc ive tried is usp oxeylite pro - you'll sweat like hell though
N21
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Its all about diet, cardio, drinking lots of water, and sleeping
enhancedmood
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So what is the best fat burner then
ForgeFit
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Like I said, I've tried all of the top burners over the years (including clenbuterol) and I think Grenade is best.
Although I agree that Diet (high protein, low sugar, low starch) is by far the most important factor followed by exercise and fat burners. However, keep in mind that a good fat burner will decrease your appetite and make it easier to stick to a clean diet - and Grenade has a nice effect on reducing my cravings for crap food.
Although I agree that Diet (high protein, low sugar, low starch) is by far the most important factor followed by exercise and fat burners. However, keep in mind that a good fat burner will decrease your appetite and make it easier to stick to a clean diet - and Grenade has a nice effect on reducing my cravings for crap food.
