test vs test e vs test c

[carmineb]

what is the main difference between the esters and test and if planning a cycle , is there a difference in dose of one vs another? Sorry for being a dumbass.... I have read the scientific stuff on long vs short esters, etc.... but subjectively, what are you all using if it is done STANDALONE (with aromasin and hcg)

Also, if I wanted a test level of around 1000 , how much of that would I normal atrribute to supplementation vs naural production (say my natural is around 250 now) With that change much or would hcg hold that number or increase it even?

Planning my first cycle, got some great advice already but just make final adjustments.. i am planning on 500 weekly, 250 pinned 2x a week to start and wsa considering pyramiding it to 1 g over a 12-14 wk cycle.

 

[SloppyJ]

If you want to pin 2x per week then stick with cyp and enan. Their halflives are long enough to sustain that pinning cycle.

Some people claim they can tell a difference between the two. I've even heard one dude say Cyp made him angry where E didn't. I stick with Enan since it's always worked and technically it has more hormone than cyp mg. for mg.

 

[vannesb]

Always have used Test C, But just started Test E so I will see if there is a difference! My understanding C and E have the same half life and not much difference.

 

[D-Lats]

Test e and c are basically the same both long esters, test prop is about half the e or c so is pinned eod or ed and is noticeable faster, test suspension has no ester and is noticeable within hrs but also clears as fast. First cycles are best run around 500mg a week of e or c and can be kickstarted with test prop just to get things moving sooner. Not necessary at all though.

 

[carmineb]

thanks a bunch all.... just wanted to get a concensus.... Test e it is!


To kick start, can I do more test e the first week, say 750 to kick start?

 

[D-Lats]

thanks a bunch all.... just wanted to get a concensus.... Test e it is!


To kick start, can I do more test e the first week, say 750 to kick start?

Thats what they call front loading. I dont like it because a long ester is a long ester whether you take 250 or 750 it still has the same half life. Thats why you use a fast ester like prop to kick start.

 

[FUZO]

Ive even heard some say they get more water retention on cyp then Enth. I'm a prop nut just love that stuff

 

[carmineb]

Dlatsky: thank u. that makes sense and after I had posted it, I thought it thru a little and was wondering the same thing.... Being my first cherry busting cycle, maybe front loading isnt the beter idea solely so I can see how my body reacts to it as it slowly builds up in my body....

 

[oufinny]

In the anabolic section there is an excellent thread on the science behind front loading, there is plenty of efficacy to it.

 

[vannesb]

Dlatsky: thank u. that makes sense and after I had posted it, I thought it thru a little and was wondering the same thing.... Being my first cherry busting cycle, maybe front loading isnt the beter idea solely so I can see how my body reacts to it as it slowly builds up in my body....

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