Toxicity of 17aa Orals

[GMO]

This is by no means an avocation for the use of several oral AAS simultaneously or running them without a good 4 week break or so in between. This is just my personal experience as of late after having bloodwork done.

I am on the final two weeks of a 20+ week cycle that included anadrol, dianabol, SuperDMZ, Superdrol, halotestin, proviron and anavar.

I had blood work done last week and my liver enzymes were on the money.

I fact ALL of my blood work came back perfect, with the exception of my thyroid, but i was on 75mcg of T3 at the time....go figure.

Again, this is just MY personal experience, and I obviously have a very resilient liver. I still recommend NOT running to 17aa orals simultaneously and taking at least a 2-3 week break in between. I am the exception....not the rule.

 

[tinyshrek]

I ran 7 weeks of super DMZ and got some blood tested about 6 weeks into tht doc said your enzymes are slightly above normal I want to say 63. But he said def nothing to worry bout. I think if you maintain good diet, drink plenty of water, implement cardio a lot of those things aid in your body processing stuff better more efficiently. Big Bump GMO

 

[_LG_]

No surprise, things get blown out of proportion all the time.

 

[gamma]

I am the opposite , I ran metstenbolone for 3 weeks took 3-4 weeks off for pct and jump on a run of Halo for 6 weeks . I did get blood work before the metstenbolone and after the halo but not in between .Pre cycle my ast-65(high) and alt-77(high) so in reality I should of never started but I did. I have always had elevated or high reading in the past so I ran em. after halo Bloods came back at ast-195 and alt-624 with a alert notice next to it.
So I guess not all men are created equal. And in no way am I bashing you or op in any way jus sharing my experience with has not been so good. Jus goes to show everyone how important blood work is,and not trying to play the guessing game.My liver took a hit on those and I would of never knew without blood work because I felt jus fine no sides or symptoms.

 

[tinyshrek]

Exactly bro goes to show that a lot of things are just genetic

 

[GMO]

I am the opposite , I ran metstenbolone for 3 weeks took 3-4 weeks off for pct and jump on a run of Halo for 6 weeks . I did get blood work before the metstenbolone and after the halo but not in between .Pre cycle my ast-65(high) and alt-77(high) so in reality I should of never started but I did. I have always had elevated or high reading in the past so I ran em. after halo Bloods came back at ast-195 and alt-624 with a alert notice next to it.
So I guess not all men are created equal. And in no way am I bashing you or op in any way jus sharing my experience with has not been so good. Jus goes to show everyone how important blood work is,and not trying to play the guessing game.My liver took a hit on those and I would of never knew without blood work because I felt jus fine no sides or symptoms.

Exactly, that is why I emphasized that it was my own personal experience, and is by no means a catch-all.

 

[rage racing]

Great info as always GMO...

 

[bulldogz]

GMO, your one of the lucky ones...

My liver values sky rocket with orals...so I take them with extreme precaution and tons of liver protectants...

 

[banker23]

did you use liver support GMO?

I don't use it for a 4 week run with reasonable dosing (concern it could interfere with the effectiveness of the orals). My liver always reads strong after as well (lots of water though).

So far methyl experience is just dbol and super-dmz (got a 12 bottle stockpile I love it so much).

 

[ANIMALHAUS]

I can't believe it's been 20 weeks already!!! I felt like you just told me you were starting yesterday!

 

[GMO]

No liver support at all. I eat VERY clean though and keep alcohol to a minimum.

 

[PurePersian]

wow bro your genetically made for gear lol..

 

[Dath]

As always GMO great Info....as most everyone has already said goes to show were all different in what are bodies process and tolerate.

 

[adambomb]

I don't like oral, but I like orals . Good info.

 

[raptor20561]

I hate you.

I was on 0 orals and my liver enzymes were sky high when I got tested -_-

 

[raptor20561]

No liver support at all. I eat VERY clean though and keep alcohol to a minimum.

Have you ever binge drank alcohol in your life? I think the 3 years of binging on 10+ drinks in one night about once a week raised my enzymes.

 

[SloppyJ]

Even while taking all of those pain pills from when that dude hit you.... You have a super liver.

 

[acemon]

I am the opposite , I ran metstenbolone for 3 weeks took 3-4 weeks off for pct and jump on a run of Halo for 6 weeks . I did get blood work before the metstenbolone and after the halo but not in between .Pre cycle my ast-65(high) and alt-77(high) so in reality I should of never started but I did. I have always had elevated or high reading in the past so I ran em. after halo Bloods came back at ast-195 and alt-624 with a alert notice next to it.
So I guess not all men are created equal. And in no way am I bashing you or op in any way jus sharing my experience with has not been so good. Jus goes to show everyone how important blood work is,and not trying to play the guessing game.My liver took a hit on those and I would of never knew without blood work because I felt jus fine no sides or symptoms.

Holy shit I have never seen numbers like that.....Jesus Christo

 

[Kirk B]

not god

I hate you.

I was on 0 orals and my liver enzymes were sky high when I got tested -_-

you should get test done for mono and hep C not to be a dick but def check for ur health bro and were you running winny or suspension, or prop can make it a little higher but the winny the most for injectables def get checked bro for your safety bro just looking out for you man hope all is well

winny will put it high prop and suspension to a lesser extent the least on ur liver is test E and C, orals are the worst for you in terms of liver values then when you stop it goes back to normal drink 1 gallon of water plus a day and milkthistle too or liv 52 milkthistle is good tho too


I'm a dick and never got checked out before cause i go to a doc for other scripts and don't want to get cut off of them i need to go to another doc and get checked out too man i'm a dick for not going just being selfish and not wanting to tell them what i do so i don't get cut from my other meds that i need and they most likely would if mine were high test levels or liver em-zines


does anyone kno where i can go to a different doc to get these checked so mine doesn't know what i'm doing

 

[GMO]

Even while taking all of those pain pills from when that dude hit you.... You have a super liver.

I know...I was quite shocked. Percocet, Vicodin, Halotestin, superdrol, and Tren.

I couldn't believe that all my labs were well within the normal range (Except Thyroid) after 20+ weeks on.

 

[GMO]

Have you ever binge drank alcohol in your life? I think the 3 years of binging on 10+ drinks in one night about once a week raised my enzymes.

Na...usually just a couple Guinness' at the bar.

 

[raptor20561]

you should get test done for mono and hep C not to be a dick but def check for ur health bro and were you running winny or suspension, or prop can make it a little higher but the winny the most for injectables def get checked bro for your safety bro just looking out for you man hope all is well

winny will put it high prop and suspension to a lesser extent the least on ur liver is test E and C, orals are the worst for you in terms of liver values then when you stop it goes back to normal drink 1 gallon of water plus a day and milkthistle too or liv 52 milkthistle is good tho too


I'm a dick and never got checked out before cause i go to a doc for other scripts and don't want to get cut off of them i need to go to another doc and get checked out too man i'm a dick for not going just being selfish and not wanting to tell them what i do so i don't get cut from my other meds that i need and they most likely would if mine were high test levels or liver em-zines


does anyone kno where i can go to a different doc to get these checked so mine doesn't know what i'm doing

My alt and ast were around 70-100. After reading about gamma's values I think I'm fine. I have never done steroids so it was definitely the years spent binge drinking in school. I've always drank a lot of water and now take liv52 and milk thistle

 

[raptor20561]

Na...usually just a couple Guinness' at the bar.

I was always told that isolated nights of binge drinking is worse than drinking a few beers more often. Turns out they were right!

 

[gamma]

My alt and ast were around 70-100. After reading about gamma's values I think I'm fine. I have never done steroids so it was definitely the years spent binge drinking in school. I've always drank a lot of water and now take liv52 and milk thistle

Glad I could ease your mine . I have recently got re tested levels have came down a lot , but still pretty high both in the 100's. At least I found out before I got crazy with it.