Tren Cycle Guide

[idealbody]

Dear All, i am going to start my Tren A cycle after two months, so i want to take all the suggestions, tips, opinions.

My goal is bulking, My cycle will be like this

Cycle 10 weeks
Tren A 50mg everyday 1-10 week
Test Propionate .25mg EOD 1-10 week (TRT dose)
Anadrol 100 mg ED 1-8 week

PCT
After 4 days of last inj
Clomid 100/50/50/50 mg every week till 4 week
Nolvadex 20/20/20/20 mg every week till 4 week


My Stats
5.7" height
80 KG
Already done 3 cyles in past


Please guide me
1). if this cycle is good or not
2). How much protein should i take everyday
3). what should i do to achieve maximum size and to keep that size after cycle
4). is PCT is good
5). what should be training program. Each body part once per week or twice per week, also 5 workout days or 6 workout days.
6). What is best training mechanism during cycle of bulking.
For example bench press 80 KG (12 Reps) - 100 Kg (10 Reps) - 120 KG (8 Reps) - 140 KG (4 reps) or it should be like
140 KG (6 reps) - 120 KG (8 Reps) - 100 KG(10 reps) - 80 KG (12 reps) for bulking

 

[theCaptn']

whats your BF% you think?

 

[VictorZ06]

Like the Capt. said, what's your BF look like? (and age)

IMHO....

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Start with 75mg eod Tren A...see how it goes, bump it up slowly if your body does OK
I don't see an AI in there..get one..aroma/adex
Get some Caber
Good to have nolva on hand, but you don't really need it IMHO for PCT (others will say different).
Protein intake...since this is a bulk, I would aim for 1.5-2gr per body pound.
Training should be pretty straight forward, but you will probably have to cut back on cardio.
I also like running HCG at 500iu 2X a week starting week 2.

A lot of what I wrote above is subjective and others will chime in with different opinions.


When I use tren for bulking, I use it in conjunction with NPP. I would run a 12 week cycle, first 6 weeks I would pack up some mass with NPP. The next 6 weeks, I switch the NPP over to tren to harden up my gains I got from the NPP. This technique has worked very well for me several times. Consider it. Lastly, if you can get your hands on some proviron...that would be a big plus. I run it at rather high doses and at the end of the day, I'm far more vascular.

Other's will chime in with some more advise for you. I appreciate seeing threads like yours where you are actually willing to learn and grab some advise from those who know more,...unlike others who walk in the door asking for advice while saying they are going to do whatever they want to do regardless of what we tell them. Best of luck bro...



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[rutman]

Does anyone else besides me think that 8 weeks of Anadrol with the Tren is crazy.... I'd be a walking time bomb!


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[Christsean]

Std Donkey.... he's waiting two months to go on Tren......

 

[VictorZ06]

Does anyone else besides me think that 8 weeks of Anadrol with the Tren is crazy.... I'd be a walking time bomb!


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Done properly, it can be done. Been there and done that, with doses double that of the OP's. I would suggest getting blood work done more frequently to make sure everything is in check.



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[s2h]

If your gonna pin the prop eod IMO pin the tren eod like suggested above.....100mg of drol will either be OK or won't ....some can tolerate it some can't ...can always dc it if it isn't working out....

Train hard....don't think that will be a issue on that run...

Protein 1.5g per lb...keep fats up...I do well on that kind of cycle with more fat % then carbs ..

PCT looks OK...

 

[idealbody]

Like the Capt. said, what's your BF look like? (and age)

IMHO....

More test
Start with 75mg eod Tren A...see how it goes, bump it up slowly if your body does OK
I don't see an AI in there..get one..aroma/adex
Get some Caber
Good to have nolva on hand, but you don't really need it IMHO for PCT (others will say different).
Protein intake...since this is a bulk, I would aim for 1.5-2gr per body pound.
Training should be pretty straight forward, but you will probably have to cut back on cardio.
I also like running HCG at 500iu 2X a week starting week 2.

A lot of what I wrote above is subjective and others will chime in with different opinions.


When I use tren for bulking, I use it in conjunction with NPP. I would run a 12 week cycle, first 6 weeks I would pack up some mass with NPP. The next 6 weeks, I switch the NPP over to tren to harden up my gains I got from the NPP. This technique has worked very well for me several times. Consider it. Lastly, if you can get your hands on some proviron...that would be a big plus. I run it at rather high doses and at the end of the day, I'm far more vascular.

Other's will chime in with some more advise for you. I appreciate seeing threads like yours where you are actually willing to learn and grab some advise from those who know more,...unlike others who walk in the door asking for advice while saying they are going to do whatever they want to do regardless of what we tell them. Best of luck bro...



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Thanks alot victor for your time and answer.

About body fat really i dont know how much percentage. I will soon upload my picture.

Regarding 8 week 100mg/day Anadrol, somebody is saying it is not good. is this really not good ?
Also 10 week ED 50mg Tren A is not good? because you said use 75mg EOD.
Protein i will take as you said 1.5G per pound
Caber is very difficult to find here in kuwait.
What is NPP?

 

[idealbody]

Std Donkey.... he's waiting two months to go on Tren......

My dear, i ordered my stuff, i will get after one and half month. Guy will arrange and give me that is why i will do after two months.

 

[idealbody]

No body replied me on the following.
And sorry i forgot to mention my age is 35.

5). what should be training program. Each body part once per week or twice per week, also 5 workout days or 6 workout days.
6). What is best training mechanism during cycle of bulking.
For example bench press 80 KG (12 Reps) - 100 Kg (10 Reps) - 120 KG (8 Reps) - 140 KG (4 reps) or it should be like
140 KG (6 reps) - 120 KG (8 Reps) - 100 KG(10 reps) - 80 KG (12 reps) for bulking

 

[VictorZ06]

Thanks alot victor for your time and answer.

About body fat really i dont know how much percentage. I will soon upload my picture.

Regarding 8 week 100mg/day Anadrol, somebody is saying it is not good. is this really not good ?
Also 10 week ED 50mg Tren A is not good? because you said use 75mg EOD.
Protein i will take as you said 1.5G per pound
Caber is very difficult to find here in kuwait.
What is NPP?

BF% will help answer a lot of questions.

8 weeks of drol can take take a toll on your liver if you don't take any liver protection and drink a case of beer every night. Most guys don't pass 6 weeks with an oral such as drol, but I have successfully used it at 100mg ED for 8 weeks many many times and my liver and kidney values all remain in tact. I do not drink?.period.

As for the tern, I suggested starting at 75mg EOD so that your body can better understand and feel the full effects of it. The difference is not that big between 50mg ED and 75mg EOD.

Yes, 1.5gr per pound of protein should be fine?.no need to go over 2gr.

NPP in short is a like a fast acting deca. Look it up and read it's profile. You should be able to find caber from several chem sites that are willing to send to Kuwait. Good luck!



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[idealbody]

BF% will help answer a lot of questions.

8 weeks of drol can take take a toll on your liver if you don't take any liver protection and drink a case of beer every night. Most guys don't pass 6 weeks with an oral such as drol, but I have successfully used it at 100mg ED for 8 weeks many many times and my liver and kidney values all remain in tact. I do not drink?.period.

As for the tern, I suggested starting at 75mg EOD so that your body can better understand and feel the full effects of it. The difference is not that big between 50mg ED and 75mg EOD.

Yes, 1.5gr per pound of protein should be fine?.no need to go over 2gr.

NPP in short is a like a fast acting deca. Look it up and read it's profile. You should be able to find caber from several chem sites that are willing to send to Kuwait. Good luck!



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Thanks a lot Victor for all your replies and time.

I will do what you said that 75mg EOD.
Regarding anadrol should i decrease it to 6 week or 4 weeks?

 

[Christsean]

Dear All, i am going to start my Tren A cycle after two months, so i want to take all the suggestions, tips, opinions.

My goal is bulking, My cycle will be like this

Cycle 10 weeks
Tren A 50mg everyday 1-10 week
Test Propionate .25mg EOD 1-10 week (TRT dose)
Anadrol 100 mg ED 1-8 week

PCT
After 4 days of last inj
Clomid 100/50/50/50 mg every week till 4 week
Nolvadex 20/20/20/20 mg every week till 4 week


My Stats
5.7" height
80 KG
Already done 3 cyles in past


Please guide me
1). if this cycle is good or not
2). How much protein should i take everyday
3). what should i do to achieve maximum size and to keep that size after cycle
4). is PCT is good
5). what should be training program. Each body part once per week or twice per week, also 5 workout days or 6 workout days.
6). What is best training mechanism during cycle of bulking.
For example bench press 80 KG (12 Reps) - 100 Kg (10 Reps) - 120 KG (8 Reps) - 140 KG (4 reps) or it should be like
140 KG (6 reps) - 120 KG (8 Reps) - 100 KG(10 reps) - 80 KG (12 reps) for bulking

To answer your last couple of questions, go to my thread called "Having a Blast" in the anabolic zone. I am currently doing PHAT training regiment. Getting great results without any plateaus.

Read it and let me know what you think.

 

[VictorZ06]

Regarding anadrol should i decrease it to 6 week or 4 weeks?

Use liver protection and don't drink, and you can get away with using it at 8 weeks like I mentioned earlier. If you want to shorten the duration just to clear your mind and so you can sleep better at night, take it to 6 weeks.



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[idealbody]

Use liver protection and don't drink, and you can get away with using it at 8 weeks like I mentioned earlier. If you want to shorten the duration just to clear your mind and so you can sleep better at night, take it to 6 weeks.



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Dear what should i take for liver protection.

 

[idealbody]

To answer your last couple of questions, go to my thread called "Having a Blast" in the anabolic zone. I am currently doing PHAT training regiment. Getting great results without any plateaus.

Read it and let me know what you think.

I could not find "Having a Blast". please send me link.

 

[ezjax]

In my opinion and this is in no way advice I am still a baby..

i like the idea of prop at 20-30mg daily.. And tren at minimum 400mg weekly or more however you break it up.


Some people feel amazing on anadrol some feel like shit

 

[Christsean]

Try this

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/186576-having-blast.html#post3142561

I could not find "Having a Blast". please send me link.

Try this...