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Is the Universe a Computer Simulation? - YouTube

Cosmic rays offer clue our universe could be a computer simulation (Wired UK)

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Cosmic rays offer clue our universe could be a computer simulation



If recent measurements of cosmic ray particles are correct, then we may have the first evidence that the universe as we know it is really a giant computer simulation.

Humans have explored the laws of our universe for many years now, and it's not uncommon to hear people talk about how amazing it is that certain fundamental values are just right for life to exist. Some people have wondered if that's because the whole universe is actually some kind of sandbox simulation, and we're merely characters in some cosmic game of The Sims. If that's true, then there should be a point where we start to bump up against the edges of the simulator, like Jim Carrey's character escaping from The Truman Show -- and now a team of physicists think that a particular measurement of some cosmic ray particles might be the first such indication of one of those edges.

The idea that we might be living in an artificial reality constructed by something higher than ourselves has been a recurring philosophical hypothesis for centuries. Plato's Allegory of the Cave, Descartes' evil demon, Putnam's brain in a vat -- these are all variants of justifications for solipsism, a philosophical idea that says it's impossible to know with any certainty whether the world as we experience it is "real" or a simulation projected by some external entity. Keanu Reeves' character Neo in The Matrix opts for a dose of reality when he chooses to take the red pill, but figuring out whether our universe is "real" or not is a touch more complicated than that.

It shouldn't be surprising that simulating the universe would take up a lot of processing power, since the universe is exceedingly large (and then some). Currently, if we wanted to simulate quantum chromodynamics -- the rules which give rise to the strong nuclear force, which binds protons and neutrons together in atomic nuclei -- we can only manage it on the scale of femtometres (millionths of a nanometre). That's not even close to the level of detail needed for even the smallest microorganisms, let alone planets, stars and galaxies.

What we do know, though, is that when we create such a simulator, there's some kind of underlying lattice that holds everything together like a kind of framework. Think of it as the smallest scale at which a simulator runs -- like the way a grid divides up the playable space in a chess game. You can't move a piece less than one grid space.

If we were living in a simulator, we'd expect to find evidence of that lattice if we looked close enough to the edges of the observable universe -- and that's what Silas Beane from the University of Bonn and colleagues have calculated, in a paper published in arXiv. As cosmic particles fly through the universe, they lose energy and change direction and spread out across a spectrum of energy values. There's a known limit to how much energy those particles have, though, and Beane and his colleagues have calculated that this seemingly arbitrary cliff in the spectrum is consistent with the kind of boundary that you'd find if there was an underlying lattice governing the limits of a simulator. It should also, if present, scatter the particles in a certain way as they come up against it, and we should be able to investigate whether that's the case.

If such an investigation does look consistent with a simulator lattice, then that could mean several things. It could show us that there's a boundary out there consistent with Beane et al's hypothesis, and it works a bit like the one we'd expect if we were living inside a simulator based on the same principles as one we would also build. It could be, though, that we're incorrectly interpreting evidence of certain fundamental laws we are as yet unfamiliar with. It could even be that this isn't evidence at all for a simulator, as a real lattice might work in a different way to how we would envision it.

Frankly, we don't know yet. It's a bit like sitting really close to the TV when you're a kid and being able to pick out all the pixels -- we just have to hope the universe doesn't have a retina display.
 
If it is true hopefully the system doesn't crash or get reset anytime soon. There's still a lot of stuff I want to do.
 
Welcome to then Matrix, and doesn't that explain dejavu and having dreams of doing things that are yet to happen and then a few days your dream actually happens
 
The realm of possibilities for our universe, which may be part of a multiverse, is so beyond the range of human thinking that anything is possible
The great J. B. S. Haldane put it very well when he said: ?The universe is not only queerer than we imagine ? it is queerer than we can imagine.?
 
Welcome to then Matrix, and doesn't that explain dejavu and having dreams of doing things that are yet to happen and then a few days your dream actually happens

I had a dream once that a little girl was skipping down the sidewalk toward me as I laid in my lawn and some change fell out of her pocket, about 5 minutes later my girlfriends daughter came into our room to grab her lunch money from her moms nightstand and pulled the paper cash not realizing a dollar worth of quarters were on top and the coins fell on our pergo floors with almost the same clang clink sound I heard in my dream. It was very surreal, the most vivid precognitive experience I ever had.
 
The realm of possibilities for our universe, which may be part of a multiverse, is so beyond the range of human thinking that anything is possible
The great J. B. S. Haldane put it very well when he said: ?The universe is not only queerer than we imagine ? it is queerer than we can imagine.?

physicists have already proven that the atom can be in two places simultaneously. there are just so many things we haven't figured out, we are so young as a species and have so much more to learn.
 
physicists have already proven that the atom can be in two places simultaneously. there are just so many things we haven't figured out, we are so young as a species and have so much more to learn.

You sure about the atom being in 2 places at the same time. I heard that it is actually a subatomic partical called a quark. These guys jump up and down the valence levels of the atom popping up where they should not and, like you said, occupying 2 different spaces at the same time. It is the basis of quantum physics.
 
You sure about the atom being in 2 places at the same time. I heard that it is actually a subatomic partical called a quark. These guys jump up and down the valence levels of the atom popping up where they should not and, like you said, occupying 2 different spaces at the same time. It is the basis of quantum physics.

yep...that's it
 
While having a thought experiment (what Einstein called day dreams) I envisioned the big bang in a void blasting into nothingness and it just kept going and going until the energy was so dispersed it seemed there was nothing. What acted upon it to cause it to homogenize into clumps of matter. Dark matter and dark energy had to have existed as a base to offer resistance resulting in a catalyst to cause the energy to condense into gas clouds and stars, similar to an experiment I did when I was younger and bored where I took a mouthful of coldwater and stuck a straw into the jar of cooking grease my dad kept by the stove and it solidified little clumps of it. As it sat the clumps start to sink and fall toward each other kind of like gravity.

Now think of a circuit board, the copper connections have at least a minimum of resistance. You hit it with power and the electrons flow through, some places the copper is thicker or thinner cause electrons to flow faster or slower. Think of those first gases as etching the board of the universe and then hot spots started to form(stars) and cause electrons to re-route along the board, and then shorts occur making blackholes.....it very well could be some kind of quantum computer we live inside....
 
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i used to do this all the time. I talked myself in and out of several theories. Several times I felt like I was in the verge of making a revelation(in my own understanding) and opening up my brain to concepts that simply escape me(ie quantum physics, the depths of string theory, etc) and I just loose it. I find myself very interested in theoretical physics, unfortunately I just don't have the genetic gift of advances brain prowless. It's not unlike bodybuilding really. I'm pretty good, I just don't have the natural ability to be outstanding. Oh well I'm going to keep on trying...
 
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i used to do this all the time. I talked myself in and out of several theories. Several times I felt like I was in the verge of making a revelation(in my own understanding) and opening up my brain to concepts that simply escape me(ie quantum physics, the depths of string theory, etc) and I just loose it. I find myself very interested in theoretical physics, unfortunately I just don't have the genetic gift of advances brain prowless. It's not unlike bodybuilding really. I'm pretty good, I just don't have the natural ability to be outstanding. Oh well I'm going to keep on trying...

If I had the math skills I would put them to a test, but my dyslexia makes math almost impossible to visualize in my head. But I can see these things theoretically working and who knows one day I might stumble on something that breaks a mystery wide open.
 
We can't truly dive into the Universe while our world has all this problems like world hunger etc. Lets take care of home first.
 
We can't truly dive into the Universe while our world has all this problems like world hunger etc. Lets take care of home first.

Things you might think have no bearing on our sad little existence could end up propelling us into a Star Trek like Federation where everyones quality of life is vastly improved. We need to explore everything we can and grow the collective minds of our species to really solve such issues.
 
Things you might think have no bearing on our sad little existence could end up propelling us into a Star Trek like Federation where everyones quality of life is vastly improved. We need to explore everything we can and grow the collective minds of our species to really solve such issues.

I agree with you, all im saying is basics first. Can't do shit with a hungry stomach.
 
We can't truly dive into the Universe while our world has all this problems like world hunger etc. Lets take care of home first.

I agree. But As above, so below. The macrocosmos is the same as the microcosmos. If man is the counterpart to God on earth, then God is mans counterpart in the heavens. The universe is God. God is the same as man. Man is the same as the cell. The cell is the same as the atom. Etc.

get up on your hermeticism GDI!
 
I have always thought we might be someone's (higher life form, god, or us?) "fishbowl" so to speak.

You're in a Jew's fishbowl Prince :coffee:
 
Damn it,
I should have known that all those protein supplements contained ground up blue pills.

 
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