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Vial top came off! WTF

^ Oh brother. Here we go again. :nerd:
 
heavyiron said:
I had this happen once. I just pushed the stopper back on and bent in the cap where its supposed to be crimped and pinned.

No problemo.
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Your a boss Heavy. I think after the top being off I'd want to filter but I've read up on filtering and didn't quite understand it, or I'm half retarded... Either or.
 
hoyle21 said:
Where should I get GMP prods, since yours is UGL?
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Repped.

I don't know why this dude even shows his face around here.
 
Heavy, yeah I'd filter it if I understood the process.
 
All you have to do is get a whatman .22 syringe filter and a sterile vial big enough for all of the gear. They are really cheap. Look online. Then get a syringe that is big enough to hold all of your gear. Suck up all of the gear in question into the big syringe. Put the whatman filter on the syringe with the gear in it and then put a 18-20g needle on the filter and filter the gear into the sterile vial. Now you have gear that is g2g. Then demand a reship! :lol:
 
Sloppy, PM inbound.
 
I'd surprised that some of you don't like gp prods. Generally, they get good reviews. although, the prop I used from them, gave me a shitload of pip.
 
SloppyJ said:
All you have to do is get a whatman .22 syringe filter and a sterile vial big enough for all of the gear. They are really cheap. Look online. Then get a syringe that is big enough to hold all of your gear. Suck up all of the gear in question into the big syringe. Put the whatman filter on the syringe with the gear in it and then put a 18-20g needle on the filter and filter the gear into the sterile vial. Now you have gear that is g2g. Then demand a reship! :lol:
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Almost.... You need to put 2mls of oil in the oven (or on the stove and use a temp gauge) and heat it to 212 (minimum) after you have run your gear through the filter take the hot heated oil and run it through the whatman to flush the rest of the gear through. That's how it's done
 
baking will kill bacteria, I don't believe it will harm the test until 300 or so (you can find out easily on google). It may be even higher than that but an autoclave I believe only goes to 250 or so so thats plenty to sterilize so you have a good margin of error. Filtering is way easy though if you just grab the stuff and do it the way sloppy said, hate's right though you should use 2ml of the total volume of oil afterwards to flush the filter
 
Vibrant said:
I'd surprised that some of you don't like gp prods. Generally, they get good reviews. although, the prop I used from them, gave me a shitload of pip.
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My shit I got from them was bunk and had wood splinters floating in 2 out of 3 vials and just look at the quality in this thread. GP=Shit (imo)
 
You don't have to bake it. Baking will not kill any of the bacteria it will only oxidize your gear and turn it cloudy. Y'all need to do some research on that. If you filter it then it's already sterile. Yes you can get extra oil to push it out but who knows exactly how much is in there and I'd rather not dilute my gear. And there is still no need to bake anything.

The time it would take to sterilize your gear in a dry heat situation is a LOT.

Those weren't wood splinters dude. You are out of control. Your gear crashed. :lol: sometimes it's just better to keep quiet dude.
 
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I don't see how, I don't know of many bacteria that survive 250F. Also I've heard baking reccomended to people who were unsure of the quality of the gear they have. I agree filtering is ideal but not everyone has or wants to order vials/filters etc. for just a little bit of gear. Just tryin to offer OP an alternative.


edit: also isn't most gear baked before filtering, when the hormone is already in it? Whats the difference? I've heard thats an issue with tren but afaik test oxidizes at a higher temp than would be necessary for sterility
 
Ya man u can make buckets it doesn't make your technique necessary. The BA and filter sterilize and trap the bacteria
 
Digitalash said:
I don't see how, I don't know of many bacteria that survive 250F. Also I've heard baking reccomended to people who were unsure of the quality of the gear they have. I agree filtering is ideal but not everyone has or wants to order vials/filters etc. for just a little bit of gear. Just tryin to offer OP an alternative.
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Take a microbio class and you will quickly understand that at 250F it will take hours of dry heat sterilization to kill endospores and capsulated bacteria and chances are that those specific organisms will not die. They are designed to survive extreme conditions. For just dry heat sterilization of instruments it's recommended that you go at 170C for 2 hours. That's not talking about specimens in a liquid media.

The best method is to use moist heat sterilization (Autoclave) at 121C and 15psi for 15min.
 
Gotcha, not arguing just stating what I've always read. That does make sense though and upon further reading I'm seeing alot of people sayin that the baking has nothing to do with sterility. It's main purpose is dissolving the hormone faster, and the temp required for that is not even close to what people usually do. Soo it seems like that tidbit of misinformation just caught on and stuck I suppose
 
SloppyJ said:
You don't have to bake it. Baking will not kill any of the bacteria it will only oxidize your gear and turn it cloudy. Y'all need to do some research on that. If you filter it then it's already sterile. Yes you can get extra oil to push it out but who knows exactly how much is in there and I'd rather not dilute my gear. And there is still no need to bake anything.

The time it would take to sterilize your gear in a dry heat situation is a LOT.

Those weren't wood splinters dude. You are out of control. Your gear crashed. :lol: sometimes it's just better to keep quiet dude.
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Really, how would you know what they where? You didn't see them, I did, I fucking took them out and they were dark brown chips. Test crystals don't look like that when it crashes...as I may have mentioned I have made plenty of my own shit... I tried to make some high dosed tne that crashed...had to heat it every time I pinned it. I have seen other people that had there shit crash. Nothing close to what I am describing here... that's why come I dun use-ed da term "wood splinters" Geddit?

I know what crashed gear looks like. I also know what splinters look like, but thanks
 
keith1569 said:
Ya man u can make buckets it doesn't make your technique necessary. The BA and filter sterilize and trap the bacteria
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I wasn't talking about heating the gear. Did anyone actually read what I wrote or....no....not so much? I said Heat the extra 2mls of fucking oil that you are going to use to flush the filter to 212. That's common in most every recipe I have seen to date....

That's all.
 
Whats worse, finding a pubic hair floating in your oil or an uncrimped vial?
 
Last cycle A top popped off my vial and I quickly put it back on everything was fine. Endosyn's have been known to do that occasionally too and they're a really reputable brand.
 
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