Want to get blood work done....

[bigbenj]

LOL, no problem.

@RockShawn: thanks for the heads up. This is my first time doing blood work, so the best I can do is follow proper dosing, fasting, and drawing protocol.

 

[exphys88]

We can't really determine potency if it only goes up to 1500

 

[bigbenj]

So I shouldn't even bother then, huh?
Honeslty, I'm pretty pissed off that the sticky thread outline was followed and now I'm being told that the test will be pretty much worthless.

I could care less how this turns out for the sponsor. I'm just irritated that I will have spent my own money for this test, for people to turn around and not give it much merit.

 

[Coop817]

exphys - than what exactly is the reason for blood work

 

[bigbenj]

This infuriates me.
If you want things done a certain way, it should be outlined that way.
Instead, you are told to "follow the sticky".
Then, you're told that the results aren't worth a shit because it only goes to 1500.


Then we have Z reps in here saying a guy ran their prop and his levels were above 5000, with no proof anywhere.

 

[RockShawn]

However I did discover my HGH and my arimidex are both bunk. Sucks.

 

[exphys88]

For some reason some labs will give you exact results and others only go up to 1500. Idk why.
For me, if I'm liking a cycle and making gains, the 1500 test is good enough to know its not placebo.
If you want to test the exact dosage, use 300/week and you should be about 1200-1500 one week after pinning. But wait 4-5 weeks for levels to stabilize. The problem is, who wants to only run 300/week for a month ? Lol
I'm not aware if any sticky on how to test testosterone levels.

 

[exphys88]

So I shouldn't even bother then, huh?
Honeslty, I'm pretty pissed off that the sticky thread outline was followed and now I'm being told that the test will be pretty much worthless.

I could care less how this turns out for the sponsor. I'm just irritated that I will have spent my own money for this test, for people to turn around and not give it much merit.

What sticky?

 

[bigbenj]

This one:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/a...heap-bloodwork-how-get-without-insurance.html

I believe that this has been the basic protocol that many have been following for testing, for quite some time. Most tests that I see posted here just say, and of course I'm paraphrasing, "TEST <1500". I haven't seen many tests that actually give the exact amount.

 

[bigbenj]

I just want to see this get narrowed down to a strict set of guidelines.
Dosing protocol for the different esters of test, test you should select, how long after injection you should be tested, etc. etc...
I know its all floating around, out in the IM abyss, but, it would be nice if it was all thrown together into one thread letting everyone know exactly how you guys want to run the show.

 

[exphys88]

I'm not aware of studies done on prop that we could as a baseline to compare.
There are studies done on enanthate though, but we have the issue of the test only going up to 1500.
It's doable, but nobody wants to waist their gear by only running 300/week for a month.

 

[Coop817]

what about the "free test" number? what does this tell you...and does it go higher than...a certain max?

 

[bigbenj]

Sorry if I'm coming off as abrasive or disrespectful, I just feel like people are doubting the gear and the results before they are even posted.

 

[independent]

So I shouldn't even bother then, huh?
Honeslty, I'm pretty pissed off that the sticky thread outline was followed and now I'm being told that the test will be pretty much worthless.

I could care less how this turns out for the sponsor. I'm just irritated that I will have spent my own money for this test, for people to turn around and not give it much merit.

Its good to get blood work anyways, so it not a waste imho.

Then we have Z reps in here saying a guy ran their prop and his levels were above 5000, with no proof anywhere.

I dont believe it.

 

[independent]

I use quest diagnostics and they seem to show total amount, my last labs showed 1560ng/nl.

 

[bigbenj]

If anything, at least I can get a clue as to the quality of my A.I. I'm sure its good, because I don't have boobs, but, it will be nice to be able nail down a concrete number, as a reference point for future cycles.

 

[bigbenj]

I use quest diagnostics and they seem to show total amount, my last labs showed 1560ng/nl.

I saw someone else post a quest test just now, that had the total amount. That's who I will go with next time.

 

[heavyiron]

I think Labcorp goes to 1,500 unless ordered specifically. I don't think the labs are a waste just will be hard to pinpoint dosing with Prop.

All the protocols laid out have been with C or E to my knowledge.

 

[vannesb]

I think Labcorp goes to 1,500 unless ordered specifically. I don't think the labs are a waste just will be hard to pinpoint dosing with Prop.

All the protocols laid out have been with C or E to my knowledge.

So there is no base then as far as what the results should be? If test goes over 1,500 what does that mean?

 

[bigbenj]

This fasting is going to be the death of me. It hasn't even been an hour and a half yet. I need my nightly pb n j and glass o milk -_-

 

[heavyiron]

Fasting is unnecessary for Total T labs.

 

[bigbenj]

It won't mess with any other levels?
Just say the word...just say the word..

 

[heavyiron]

Eating food will effect cholesterol and glucose but I don't think those are on the labs you ordered.

 

[bigbenj]

Just trying to follow proper procedure.
Heading to the kitchen now!

 

[vannesb]

This infuriates me.
If you want things done a certain way, it should be outlined that way.
Instead, you are told to "follow the sticky".
Then, you're told that the results aren't worth a shit because it only goes to 1500.


Then we have Z reps in here saying a guy ran their prop and his levels were above 5000, with no proof anywhere.

There is the Lab work posted on Board .

 

[FordFan]

Eat brother. Like heavy said fasting only effects cholesterol and glucose to my knowledge.
The labcorp test are great! You get liver, kidney, and other results.

Ther are other labs that tell actual test. Don't get hung up on the test number. Pin what feels good and make sure the rest of your organs are in check.

 

[SloppyJ]

If you got the female hormone panel it tests for a bunch of shit like RBC, Glucose, E2, along with LH, FSH, and Total T.

Honestly Ben the test isn't a waste bro. It's an invaluable research tool if you use it right. You can see how your body is reacting to the specific compounds you're using. Who cares if you max out the test. All you should be worried about is that you are intact maxing out the test. If you max it out, have low FSH and LH then the test is legit. Now we can't pinpoint how well it's dosed but you know there's more than enough test in your system to grow.

And hope you don't get a bad nurse. I got a noob the first time I went in and had a bruise on my arm for 4 fucking days. Looked like a H junkie.

 

[bigbenj]

These people have no sense of urgency. My appointment was a half hour ago -_-

 

[Coop817]

I didnt make a appt, but i did get there the minute they oppened.... walked right in and was done in 10 minutes

 

[bulldogz]

If you wanted to get a true reading of your T levels, then you can order one of the various testosterone test off the website...

But, the female hormone panel is good since it also test for other things like sloppy stated

Plus it shows you are pinning test and not some fake shit