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Where the fuck did you graduate?? I cant comprehend any of this convoluted shit you wrote.
What the fucks with the hostility Jugs he was tryin to help the OP and your just bein an asshole back of the juice and take a valium chief
 
Where the fuck did you graduate?? I cant comprehend any of this convoluted shit you wrote.

You may have to think a bit. I was mention'n if one is a professional then basically the whole " worry about test'n positive is an issue only then. I also was mention'n the different Acso test'n policy's if he fact he decided to use AAS. I mentioned why I personally thought that whoever mentioned tren was a bad choice for a fighter because of bleed'n it cause's for information that may be useful to him as a fighter. I mentioned different routines that I know for a FACT are used not by LOCAL, REGIONAL,fighter, but WORLD class TOP level competitors, not some program put together by a bodybuilder for a fighter. I mentioned a way around test'n positive for knowledge that maybe he didn't have and the compound that is used to make that happen. The goods on get'n involved in test'n and how.I mentioned where the box'n commission gets involved and how. Why did I even mention any of this.............READ THE THREAD TITLE... Basically it was info as in who test for what and at what levels. I approached it from just the " Fighter" aspect. I never questioned when he fought ,just under which govern'n body, what level, why he shouldn't listen to tren talk close to a fight ( which doesn't matter when cause you can get hurt in train'n on tren before a fight and get it cancelled.) and some prove'n train'n methods for what he said his concerns were, strength and keep'n weight under control. Basically I gave him info that he may need to know as fighter on AAS. I'ma say I'm will'n to bet I been tested for events in more places in the world possibly more than anyone on this board so I'm just talk'n bout what I know happens for the sport and the rules .I based this on experience, as I've had more HIGH LEVEL fights than most people have had DREAMS. REAL TALK . My train'n routines were designed for me for nothin but KO'n cats , defend'n titles and win'n fights not look'n like a bodybuilder ,and give'n to me by Manny Stewart, Bill Goosen, Livinston Bramble, Lou Duva , Floyd Mayweather Sr..Between them they have produced over 100 WORLD champions (not one guy who beat a nobody) but maybe they don't know shit . But I know they are legit. So did GSP when we trained together for his last fight. I don't do rude , so If you don't find the info useful BY ALL MEANS PASS BY MY POST. I only tried present a different set of concerns for a guy fight'n on AAS that bodybuilders don't know about. Simple as that . If someone found ANY of my info incorrect don't insult me ,"SHOW ME". I'm not try'n to be hard to understand maybe you don't understand because I come from a different side of this type of situation that you may not know about. I understand you compete as a "bodybuilder", therefore you would have behind the scene info in that sport I wouldn't understand........I on the other hand am a " body breaker " I'm sure I have info that you don't know either concern'n this sport. Perhaps I'm not the one with the comprehension problems.

Peace and Love
 
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+1^:clapping:you now SMD I personally know a guy who was trained for MMA by a BBer first fight he came out struck a beautiful pose and got KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT LOLOLOLOL
 


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Juggernaut, what's the beef w/SMD? he's just like you when it comes trying helping a bro out. The multiple POVs that you more experienced guys offer, give the newbies options & keeps them out of trouble. That's the driving force behind these boards. I pay extra attention to posts that guys like yourself & SMD put up, because there some serious knowledge to be had.

Flathead
 
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You may have to think a bit. I was mention'n if one is a professional then basically the whole " worry about test'n positive is an issue only then. I also was mention'n the different Acso test'n policy's if he fact he decided to use AAS. I mentioned why I personally thought that whoever mentioned tren was a bad choice for a fighter because of bleed'n it cause's for information that may be useful to him as a fighter. I mentioned different routines that I know for a FACT are used not by LOCAL, REGIONAL,fighter, but WORLD class TOP level competitors, not some program put together by a bodybuilder for a fighter. I mentioned a way around test'n positive for knowledge that maybe he didn't have and the compound that is used to make that happen. The goods on get'n involved in test'n and how.I mentioned where the box'n commission gets involved and how. Why did I even mention any of this.............READ THE THREAD TITLE... Basically it was info as in who test for what and at what levels. I approached it from just the " Fighter" aspect. I never questioned when he fought ,just under which govern'n body, what level, why he shouldn't listen to tren talk close to a fight ( which doesn't matter when cause you can get hurt in train'n on tren before a fight and get it cancelled.) and some prove'n train'n methods for what he said his concerns were, strength and keep'n weight under control. Basically I gave him info that he may need to know as fighter on AAS. I'ma say I'm will'n to bet I been tested for events in more places in the world possibly more than anyone on this board so I'm just talk'n bout what I know happens for the sport and the rules .I based this on experience, as I've had more HIGH LEVEL fights than most people have had DREAMS. REAL TALK . My train'n routines were designed for me for nothin but KO'n cats , defend'n titles and win'n fights not look'n like a bodybuilder ,and give'n to me by Manny Stewart, Bill Goosen, Livinston Bramble, Lou Duva , Floyd Mayweather Sr..Between them they have produced over 100 WORLD champions (not one guy who beat a nobody) but maybe they don't know shit . But I know they are legit. So did GSP when we trained together for his last fight. I don't do rude , so If you don't find the info useful BY ALL MEANS PASS BY MY POST. I only tried present a different set of concerns for a guy fight'n on AAS that bodybuilders don't know about. Simple as that . If someone found ANY of my info incorrect don't insult me ,"SHOW ME". I'm not try'n to be hard to understand maybe you don't understand because I come from a different side of this type of situation that you may not know about. I understand you compete as a "bodybuilder", therefore you would have behind the scene info in that sport I wouldn't understand........I on the other hand am a " body breaker " I'm sure I have info that you don't know either concern'n this sport. Perhaps I'm not the one with the comprehension problems.

Peace and Love

Maybe next time you can respond to the post instead of responding to the title. ;)
 
+1^:clapping:you now SMD I personally know a guy who was trained for MMA by a BBer first fight he came out struck a beautiful pose and got KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT LOLOLOLOL

I hate to break it to all you wanna be fighters, but losing fat, gaining muscle, and gaining strength is all part of bodybuilding. Bodybuilding is about building a better body, not just trying to look like Mr. Universe.
 
+1^:clapping:you now SMD I personally know a guy who was trained for MMA by a BBer first fight he came out struck a beautiful pose and got KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT LOLOLOLOL

^^This is true, though. Look at Shogun, BJ, and Fedor. They don't have the best physiques around, but they know how to fight!
 
Maybe next time you can respond to the post instead of responding to the title. ;)

Whatever.
Maybe you can open your mind to understand that as a fighter there is more to be concerned about then what compounds you take. I know you how much you don't know about the fight game because " believe it or not , I was able to comprehend that you thought drug test'n had something to do with gett'n a license. Most cats that JUST TALK bout fight'n most time "couldn't beat their meat if it owed money "! It's not worth argue'n with people who think they know, when I KNOW the fight game which is all I as speak'n from. I'm sure you've all had more fights and titles than me so Let's leave this alone and I'll let you guys with more experience do this. It's way too beautiful here, and the water is call'n me to go scuba dive'n. So my apologies to all the fellows more informed then me. Like I always say........What the hell do I know. You cats enjoy some sunshine today, I'm out.

On a serious note Homeys,

Peace and Love
 
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I cant read his statements. I also enjoy being an asshole-and besides, I'm on HRT levels now. Now piss off.

Homey I LOVE YOUR POSTS !! I don't get offended (I just try and get even sometimes LOL) You're a good guy.Now go catch some Sun !

Peace and Love

PS I will work on my compsition skills though, Jamaican accent comes through the keyboard LOL
 
Whatever.
Maybe you can open your mind to understand that as a fighter there is more to be concerned about then what compounds you take. I know you how much you don't know about the fight game because " believe it or not , I was able to comprehend that you thought drug test'n had something to do with gett'n a license. Most cats that JUST TALK bout fight'n most time "couldn't beat their meat if it owed money "! It's not worth argue'n with people who think they know, when I KNOW the fight game which is all I as speak'n from. I'm sure you've all had more fights and titles than me so Let's leave this alone and I'll let you guys with more experience do this. It's way too beautiful here, and the water is call'n me to go scuba dive'n. So my apologies to all the fellows more informed then me. Like I always say........What the hell do I know. You cats enjoy some sunshine today, I'm out.

On a serious note Homeys,

Peace and Love

Go back and read my post again. It was posed as a question, moron. Remember...READ...COMPREHEND...THEN respond. It's really a simple process.

As I understand it, testing can be required by the particular athletic commission you're dealing with or the fight promotion, or both. Don't you have to apply for a license before you can fight professionally in pretty much any state in the U.S.? (That's a question.) Don't some of these athletic commissions require a drug test before issuing a license in the first place? (That's another question.) The way I understand it is, once you are licensed, depending on the particular commission or promotion, you may be randomly drug tested at any time, or some commissions and/or promotions require some or all of the fighters to undergo testing for each event they fight on. (That's a statement, but I'm not claiming to be an expert on the subject.)
 
Go back and read my post again. It was posed as a question, moron. Remember...READ...COMPREHEND...THEN respond. It's really a simple process.

As I understand it, testing can be required by the particular athletic commission you're dealing with or the fight promotion, or both. Don't you have to apply for a license before you can fight professionally in pretty much any state in the U.S.? (That's a question.) Don't some of these athletic commissions require a drug test before issuing a license in the first place? (That's another question.) The way I understand it is, once you are licensed, depending on the particular commission or promotion, you may be randomly drug tested at any time, or some commissions and/or promotions require some or all of the fighters to undergo testing for each event they fight on. (That's a statement, but I'm not claiming to be an expert on the subject.)

I'm have'n a good day, reread what you just wrote. All that chest pump'n and name call'n you doin ain't shit Homey,I see you are a much more experienced and way better fighter than me ......................on a keyboard. LOL Fuck it, you win . OK ? Let's call it a day on this, and enjoy this day. Homey it's like amaze'n today here and I hope it is there for you as well, I'ma go to the gym and knock some guys teeth out and act like it's you stand'n in my face with that " Moron' shit . Just kidd'n.................I think LOL
Have a wonderful day Homey

all smiles and sunshine

Peace and Love
 
I cant read his statements. I also enjoy being an asshole-and besides, I'm on HRT levels now. Now piss off.
Thats because you cant read period and I too enjoy bein an asshole on occassion so you piss off oh and grow some hair...and eyebrows :roflmao:
As I understand it, testing can be required by the particular athletic commission you're dealing with or the fight promotion, or both. Don't you have to apply for a license before you can fight professionally in pretty much any state in the U.S.? (That's a question.) Don't some of these athletic commissions require a drug test before issuing a license in the first place? (That's another question.) The way I understand it is, once you are licensed, depending on the particular commission or promotion, you may be randomly drug tested at any time, or some commissions and/or promotions require some or all of the fighters to undergo testing for each event they fight on. (That's a statement, but I'm not claiming to be an expert on the subject.)
This^ thats the problem you dont understand it your making your self look bad I think before you start questioning some one an calling them a moron you should find out who your talkin too. I know for a FACT SMD knows more about fightin than anyone on this board so please do your self a favor and stop. Fuck it scuba does sound good Im goin scuba divin too....in the kiddy pool:ohyeah:
 
I'm have'n a good day, reread what you just wrote. All that chest pump'n and name call'n you doin ain't shit Homey,I see you are a much more experienced and way better fighter than me ......................on a keyboard. LOL Fuck it, you win . OK ? Let's call it a day on this, and enjoy this day. Homey it's like amaze'n today here and I hope it is there for you as well, I'ma go to the gym and knock some guys teeth out and act like it's you stand'n in my face with that " Moron' shit . Just kidd'n.................I think LOL
Have a wonderful day Homey

all smiles and sunshine

Peace and Love

Okay, cool. Sorry to hijack the thread, but can you answer my questions, since you are a seasoned expert on the subject?

P.S. I never claimed to be a fighter.
 
Thats because you cant read period and I too enjoy bein an asshole on occassion so you piss off oh and grow some hair...and eyebrows :roflmao:

This^ thats the problem you dont understand it your making your self look bad I think before you start questioning some one an calling them a moron you should find out who your talkin too. I know for a FACT SMD knows more about fightin than anyone on this board so please do your self a favor and stop. Fuck it scuba does sound good Im goin scuba divin too....in the kiddy pool:ohyeah:

I'm beginning to feel like I woke up in the fucking twilight zone lol! SMD said I didn't know what I was talking about with the license / testing issue, but I posed it as a question. I never claimed to be an expert on mma or drug testing.
 
This^ thats the problem you dont understand it your making your self look bad I think before you start questioning some one an calling them a moron you should find out who your talkin too. I know for a FACT SMD knows more about fightin than anyone on this board so please do your self a favor and stop. Fuck it scuba does sound good Im goin scuba divin too....in the kiddy pool:ohyeah:

Maybe you or the other expert here can enlighten me? I thought I gave a humble response, and posed a question for the more knowledgeable folks here...
 
I bet $100.00, that we're all on TREN !!:roflmao:

I'm off to the water

Peace and Love
 
You lose that one Homey Jugs is just on Clomid :roflmao:
 
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My friend, I fractured my humerus and had a plate, screws and bone graft from my hip put in. This was over a year ago and I still wouldn't feel comfortable using AS. You're pushing yourself naturally hard for the past few months and that's great but you must be prepared to subject your body to extra stresses and tremendous loading if you want to reap full rewards of anabolics. I would wait at least another 6 months to make sure you're fully healed from the surgery and all is in check. Last thing you want is to start a great cycle and have re-injury occur due to overload on your humerus bone. On AS you would feel very strong but your recently operated on arm may not be. If I were in your shoes I'd wait another 6 months, train naturally in the mean time, make sure you're fully healed, lose some more body fat (you don't want to start a cycle with too much BF) and then I'd hit a good cycle in 6 months time.
 
how long did it take for you to use your arm again it took me 6 months to get about 45-55 degrees and around 8 - 9 months to get where im at now with physical therapy im about 98% range of motion 90% strength now in my shoulder but i just need to stretch more and break some scar tissue (swimming) the doc cleared me for full training but i know what u mean i was going to finish this fight camp with the other guys that have fights coming up then get on something but i will see how i feel thanks for the concern

Klutch
 
how long did it take for you to use your arm again it took me 6 months to get about 45-55 degrees and around 8 - 9 months to get where im at now with physical therapy im about 98% range of motion 90% strength now in my shoulder but i just need to stretch more and break some scar tissue (swimming) the doc cleared me for full training but i know what u mean i was going to finish this fight camp with the other guys that have fights coming up then get on something but i will see how i feel thanks for the concern

Klutch

My progress was similar to yours in terms of strength and movement recovery and now I feel 100%. 100% meaning I think I can expose my arm to loads that I can naturally achieve in the gym. As a practical example, if I anticipated to increase my hammer curl from say 45lbs for 8 reps to 70lbs for 8 reps (which you can expect on AS) I would be very worried that the relatively sudden increase in loading on the joint/bone could cause re-fracture. I would be completely pissed if that happened to me mid-cycle and instead of reaping in the rewards you wake up in a hospital room after surgery, immobile and popping pills for premature PCT. Like I mentioned earlier, push yourself naturally for another 6 months, make sure everything works properly and then do something. Over-anticipation can turn to be your doom in my opinion.
 
He said in his first post that he has used tren and deca in the past. I don't think 500mg test would give him what he's looking for. This should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway: Diet will be the key to losing fat. Extra test will help a little, but it's main purpose in a cutting cycle is to help retain muscle.

This. To the OP, you're just getting to an age where you can no longer rely upon training off the weight. You're going to have to suck it up and learn how to diet properly - on and off-season. You can read the link in my sig on getting started; most of it will NOT apply to you but the info on monitoring your diet and cutting is universal and there's a free computer app mentioned in that link that tells you how you can track it quickly so you can get your diet working for you immediately. You clearly don't, and that's why you're currently a fatass. Fix the diet and you won't have any trouble with this part ever again. PS I'm older than you and have had the same injury - minus the pin. It sucks and I couldn't press anything for years. It WILL settle down. Baby the fuck out of it and get good physio. I also highly recommend Active Release. I was able to blow off surgery to clear out scar tissue and restore ROM through Active Release.

Sorry bro but Testosterone also greatly influences fat partitioning(spelling) You can run a succesful cut from just test. He also stated that he recently broke his Humerous Tren would be a real quick and easy way to reinjure it

You CAN, if you already know how to eat AND if you're insanely active AND if you don't overeat to compensate. You can probably quite easily recompose about 5 lbs a month (at least for the first few months) on gear with all things being equal. That's nice, but it may not be fast enough for our boy here.

I cant read his statements. I also enjoy being an asshole-and besides, I'm on HRT levels now. Now piss off.

True. True. And True. (You know I love you, jugg!) ;)

For the record, I always enjoy superman's daddy's posts. Always helpful, always respectful. Buddy, come to Vancouver and I'll make you stew with dumplings.
 
I'll make stew with dumplings. YOU make the pasta e fagioli. It'll be a bodybuilder version of United Nations at the dinner table!
 
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