bio-chem said:
John, ive been re-reading a lot of your threads and i noticed a pattern. a lot of your replies start off with something like "thats not what i said, please re-read my last post" If this only happened a few times by a few people then i would say its their fault, but because i see a pattern im led to believe your not very good at getting your point across. whats more important? what your saying and meaning or how your percieved in what your saying and meaning? the truth is john its how your percieved. your coming across as close minded and radicle in your views. whether thats what you want or not is debatable but your deffinitly not getting people to be more accepting and open minded about your views. the truth is your hurting your position. think of it like this, if your percieved as a jack ass then your a jack ass. even if thats not your intentions. it seems you have an agenda of acceptance, but your pushing people away more than your getting them to openly look at your views. the truth is i feel sorry for people like crazy enough who is trying to get people to be more accepting of your lifestyle in a way people can respect, regardless of whether they accept what she says. John your more of a liability to your cause than you are an ally. Keep pushing your agenda though, because it only makes the radicle religious right seem more mainstream.
Hi Bio-chem,
Every day I live another day I find more people who are actually very closed-minded and UNwilling to look at anything from ALL perspectives.
What you or anyone else ultimately think about any subject is entirely up to you. It is not my intention to "be accepted" on the "surface" like so many in life seem to strive to do loosing their individuality and who they really are - it is surprising how many abdicate themselves to make others "happy" while they themselves are very unhappy truthfully speaking. I do not lie to others and I certainly do not lie to myself - to thy own self be true...
All I can do it put forth information which I hope is from many perspectives - what others do with that information falls on them. As for the "religious right" I have absolutely no respect for them because they are just "followers" and are very willing to accept anything someone tells them - which is fine for them if that makes them "happy" but it is when they force their beliefs on others I have a real problem because those beliefs are NOT based on how life actually is or even intended to be.
You say I am "pushing". I am merely making statements of fact as they are - how someone sees what I say - IF they see what I am saying - is entirely up to them, if they have an open mind they will be willing to discuss freely back and forth as a way of each UNDERSTANDING - NOT necessarily "accepting" as that is something each of us do individually however I certainly hope people will do that with a completely open mind and objectively - they will continue to form THEIR "feelings" on whatever hopefully utilizing to the best of their ability the brain God gave each of us and not just be a person who just swallows anything because it "is the thing to do and everyone else is doing it"...
I do not have as my intention to have everyone "accept" what I say necessarily - THEY can and should check what I say out for themselves for its validity. I do not make statements lightly.
In life real friends are few and far between. I see "society" in general (the population) as mostly people who lean on others and use others for their own personal gain.
I completely understand anyone's desire to have answers to the most important questions of life and living. To have things they can believe in - but I choose to believe in things that are - NOT something made up as with so many religions to somehow fill a void thus causing the followers to "feel better" about "things" even though there may not be a shred of truth to any of it. I see the evidence of God all around me every day. My eyes are wide open. I am not blind nor am I blinded by others.
In relations I have with others (from all perspectives) I am very truthful and sincere. I NEVER use other people which most ARE GUILITY of doing and on a daily basis.
You mention "a pattern" you feel I make with regard to having others re-read what I said. I make that statement because I can see it is obvious they did not actually read and understand what I said even though it is plain to see what it is I actually said. People all the time read INTO what others say to fit their own personal thinking NOT really seeing what IS being said accurately.
You seem to be worried that I might be viewed as a "jackass". I actually think of those that think that way as a compliment to me - they did not willingly even make a small effort to see what it IS I actually said, they just put their hatred and their bigotry in front of their eyes because that is how they have learned to see all things.
I am not "setting myself up" as a "perfect person" or someone "who knows it all", far from that! - I am by my estimation far from that because I know my limitations honestly and because I understand that no one is perfect certainly not I. I am learning everyday just as I hope others are but the evidence of that shows many "don't even get off the couch"... One thing I have learned: people LOVE to hate - something, someone, etc. - because they then feel better about themselves somehow especially if they think they have made someone else more miserable then they themselves are - it then makes them happpy.
You say I am pushing people away - perhaps that is what they want because they do not like it when someone tells them what is true. Maybe you feel I lack tact in my approach to what I say and that then rubs people the wrong way. I am not out to intentionally cause anyone any discomfort. Let me ask you: how do you present the truth to others (the facts) other than just presenting them as they are actually? Without any personal "bent" on it, sterile presentation - JUST the facts not sugar-coated? I find people like "believing" the truthfulness of what they "believe" in the accurate truth never really matters because they are so worried about "being accepted by others"...
You say I come across as radical in my views: how so? Because I say what is actually truthful and accurate? While many do bend the truth to fit their own I just present them as they are and now I am radical for having done so? I know it is the "accepted thing" today to lie about anything. I have trouble lying to others because I learned very early on I am not good at it in the first place and I do not like myself if I do that and it is hard to remember after awhile what you say and try to keep it all straight... So I do not lie. I do not like lying, it is a giving up of oneself.
You mention the radical religious right. I can see that in this country if they continue as they are and gain the power so many seem to allow them to have just to "somehow shut them up", Iraq and that whole region will be transferred to the USA because those people in that part of the world have allowed religious believing to destroy everything and everyone there - they have never gotten along with themselves and never will - it is they who ARE radical. They fight each other all the time over control over each other and use "religion" and Allah to do that. I want NO part of any of that insanity!!!
I always welcome your honesty and openness. Being accurate, that is how anyone learns - no one is perfect.
Take Care, John H.
- SORRY Buddy!!
