When aspirating?

[scwarzenegger]

A couple of times when I aspirate the plunger seems like it stuck, and when i try to draw even more it makes a "plop" but there aint coming no freaking bubbles- So my question is: does it have to come bubbles? I mean as long that there is no blood shooting out one should be cool...no?

 

[VictorZ06]

That's normal. Best way to fix the issue is not to aspirate at all.



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[Digitalash]

if its stuck it's creating a vacuum, meaning its not in a blood vessel or you would easily draw up blood


haven't pinned myself yet, but have done H a few times...

 

[Digitalash]

That's normal. Best way to fix the issue is not to aspirate at all.



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pinning for the first time soon, I've only heard this a couple times but it kinda makes sense, so I would be totally fine to pin glutes and not aspirate right?

what exactly happens if you are in a blood vessel?

 

[BigBird]

Aspirating is overblown. Never aspirated, never will. Never any issues whatsoever. There's the occassional trickle of blood which is bound to happen by law of averages. Last year the doctor gave me an IM injection of Toradol and guess what - he didn't aspirate. A small trickle of blood from the delt and I lived another day. Also, in the medical assembly line at the start of boot camp, we took IM injections in delts and glutes. No aspiration took place.

 

[VictorZ06]

pinning for the first time soon, I've only heard this a couple times but it kinda makes sense, so I would be totally fine to pin glutes and not aspirate right?

what exactly happens if you are in a blood vessel?

Yes it will be fine, just hit the proper spot. IF you hit a blood vessel, you will know right away. Read this older thread....should help answer all your questions.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/125530-hard-aspirate.html



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[bulldogz]

This has happened to me as well...hard to aspirate (feels like a suction) which means your in muscle tissue and not in just "air" per se or in a vein/vessel...

 

[Digitalash]

Yes it will be fine, just hit the proper spot. IF you hit a blood vessel, you will know right away. Read this older thread....should help answer all your questions.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/125530-hard-aspirate.html



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yeah I read that thread before, I'm worried I might NOT hit the right spot the first time though? Lol that may seem ridiculous but I still don't know exactly how much "wiggle room" you have that's still gonne be the right spot. But should I hit a blood vessel the syringe will fill with blood on its own right, because some of the guys in that thread said "you will just know it feels different" but I have no idea how its supposed to feel so blood will be what I'm going on the first few times. Pinning glutes through a 25 should be enough fun without the extra time aspirating so I'd prefer to get rid of it

 

[VictorZ06]

yeah I read that thread before, I'm worried I might NOT hit the right spot the first time though? Lol that may seem ridiculous but I still don't know exactly how much "wiggle room" you have that's still gonne be the right spot. But should I hit a blood vessel the syringe will fill with blood on its own right, because some of the guys in that thread said "you will just know it feels different" but I have no idea how its supposed to feel so blood will be what I'm going on the first few times. Pinning glutes through a 25 should be enough fun without the extra time aspirating so I'd prefer to get rid of it

You have a FAR less chance of hitting anything if you are using your glutes. If you notice a sharp pain, just pull it out. It's not hard at all...check this site out....

SpotInjections.com



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[Digitalash]

You have a FAR less chance of hitting anything if you are using your glutes. If you notice a sharp pain, just pull it out. It's not hard at all...check this site out....

SpotInjections.com



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ok, glutes it is, no aspirating, thanks for the advice

I have checked out that site though, watched the videos etc. Probably one of the few who may be over-researching his first cycle lol. Injecting was the furthest thing from my mind when I was planning my cycle, now that I have the pins and the rest is on its way it's started to become a little more important


Again thank you, I guarantee I'm overthinking this and making a big deal of nothing, I'm sure I'll lol at myself for a few minutes when the first one's done

 

[VictorZ06]

Probably one of the few who may be over-researching his first cycle lol.

No such thing bro. Try and learn as much as possible before beginning your cycle. Nothing wrong with asking questions. If you ever get stumped and hit a bump on the road, we are all here to help. I admire the fact that you are trying to learn all the little details instead of just jumping in the game without a clue. Others should follow your lead. Best of luck with your program bro....like I said, no such thing as "over-researching" in this game. Props!



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[Digitalash]

No such thing bro. Try and learn as much as possible before beginning your cycle. Nothing wrong with asking questions. If you ever get stumped and hit a bump on the road, we are all here to help. I admire the fact that you are trying to learn all the little details instead of just jumping in the game without a clue. Others should follow your lead. Best of luck with your program bro....like I said, no such thing as "over-researching" in this game. Props!



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thanks man I have definitely learned a lot just in the short time I've been here, did some research over the years but wasn't planning to actually run anything so some of the finer details got skimmed over

but yeah I was kidding about over-researching, at this point I'm just overthinking, I'm confident in the gears I've chosen, but still a little squeamish about the pin situation, but I'm just being a puss and I know it, I'm sure you've read a million threads like "just did first injection, lol that was easy", and hopefully that'll be me soon

 

[scwarzenegger]

Thanks Victor and everyone else! The help Ive had here is worth gold for me. This forum is so filling its purpose

 

[JCBourne]

You have a FAR less chance of hitting anything if you are using your glutes. If you notice a sharp pain, just pull it out. It's not hard at all...check this site out....

SpotInjections.com



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Yeah what is that sharp pain V? I had it happen the other night, I just told my girl to keep going and was bleeding after. I figured she had hit a nerve on the way in.

Hurt like a mother fucker, and bled for a bit but no bruise or soreness next day thankfully.

 

[VictorZ06]

Yeah what is that sharp pain V? I had it happen the other night, I just told my girl to keep going and was bleeding after. I figured she had hit a nerve on the way in.

Hurt like a mother fucker, and bled for a bit but no bruise or soreness next day thankfully.

Was it like an electric sharp pain? If so, more than likely you hit a nerve. It happens from time to time. It can hurt for several hours....I've been there.



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[BigBird]

Stick to upper outer quadrant of glute and you won't hit the sciatic nerve. I've never hit it but I've heard that there is no mistaking it when you do. Never go near centerline of glute.

 

[Bigb21084]

Wait ,why wouldn't you ever NOT want to aspirate?? If your in deep enough your going to be in muscle whether you aspirate bubbles, or nothing at all. If your in a vein or worst yet an artery, you will get blood. I didnt check once in my delt, and administered the whole dose of gear into a vein! Though I was going to fucking die, worst feeling EVER!!!

Better safe then sorry. And some food for thought. For your glute, Extend your thum and pinky finger and measure with it from your hip down, and then your knee cap up, just to the side of the middle of your quad. Pick a small area and stick with it. I hope Thad made sense haha poke away ;D

 

[Digitalash]

Wait ,why wouldn't you ever NOT want to aspirate?? If your in deep enough your going to be in muscle whether you aspirate bubbles, or nothing at all. If your in a vein or worst yet an artery, you will get blood. I didnt check once in my delt, and administered the whole dose of gear into a vein! Though I was going to fucking die, worst feeling EVER!!!

Better safe then sorry. And some food for thought. For your glute, Extend your thum and pinky finger and measure with it from your hip down, and then your knee cap up, just to the side of the middle of your quad. Pick a small area and stick with it. I hope Thad made sense haha poke away ;D

So what exactly happens when you inject into a vein, oil embolism right??

and I might be totally misreading the last part because that sounds like the outside of the quad not the glute, is quad about as safe as glute for a beginner?

 

[BigBird]

You guys must have more hidden veins than me. I've pinned a thousand times in delts and glutes w/out aspirating and never hit a vein once. I guess I'm just lucky. Or special.

 

[Db52280]

If you inject into a vein you will feel like crap for awhile. It takes i believe 5cc of oil directly into a vein to kill you. I always asperiate because im a freak like that.

 

[Digitalash]

If you inject into a vein you will feel like crap for awhile. It takes i believe 5cc of oil directly into a vein to kill you. I always asperiate because im a freak like that.

oh wow, 5cc huh, I was thinking just a little bit of oil might be enough, I'll aspirate the first few times but from what everyone is saying there's really no need

 

[Bigb21084]

First off all Bigbird, you are special

Maybe I just don't have steady hands, but I asp and continued as normal, and as soon as was finished I knew I'd fucked. (this was just my experience) after almost falling to the floor, i felt to lay down before I fell down was a good choice. I waited like 10 min got up, went to work, and remembering having flu like symptoms the rest of the day. Felt like I was poisoned or something, prob cause I was :-/ it was QV Deca I believe.

And for the poke, it's kind of personal preference. The more comfortable I am the less I move and make the shot more painful, after all ur just shredding muscle, the ass you have to twist, and the shoulder you can only use with one hand, makes it real hard to asp and shoot with one hand with out moving the dart. So if it's a gear that needs to be administered in cretin muscle groups, take a load off on your ass and take your time using both hands sticking your quad.

 

[BigBird]

I might have to get over my psychological fear/irrationality associated with pinning quad. I can't really describe what it is exactly but something about pinning the quad makes me uneasy. Maybe since I've never aspirated nor hit a vein in delts/glutes, I don't want to press my luck with the quads. I dunno. As long as wife continues to pin my delts and ass, I've no reason to switch to quads. It's all in my wife's hands and I hope she continues to be compliant and willing on pin days.

 

[manbag83]

Aspirate, Aspirate, Aspirate.... this is probably something that people over look. Its very important. If you inject into an artery you could start a cascade of trouble. depends on the persons specific anatomy and the substance but your talking about strokes or pulmonary embolisms. Thats some serious shit. Its a small step to prevent possible bit problems.

 

[VictorZ06]

I might have to get over my psychological fear/irrationality associated with pinning quad. I can't really describe what it is exactly but something about pinning the quad makes me uneasy. Maybe since I've never aspirated nor hit a vein in delts/glutes, I don't want to press my luck with the quads. I dunno. As long as wife continues to pin my delts and ass, I've no reason to switch to quads. It's all in my wife's hands and I hope she continues to be compliant and willing on pin days.

IMHO, quads are the easiest to do. Besides, you are able to use both hands and this helps reduce scaring the tissue because the pin doesn't move around as much.



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[Digitalash]

IMHO, quads are the easiest to do. Besides, you are able to use both hands and this helps reduce scaring the tissue because the pin doesn't move around as much.



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I'm sorta leaning towards quads rather than glutes for my first cycle, how would you compare the chances of hitting something ie. vein/nerve, and hows the pain afterwards?

 

[BigBird]

IMHO, quads are the easiest to do. Besides, you are able to use both hands and this helps reduce scaring the tissue because the pin doesn't move around as much.



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Very true VicZ, in all aspects. Except this stinking hangup I have about it. I guess there's only one thing to do when you get to a "brick wall." SMASH RIGHT THROUGH THE FUCKER!

 

[BigBird]

I'm sorta leaning towards quads rather than glutes for my first cycle, how would you compare the chances of hitting something ie. vein/nerve, and hows the pain afterwards?

I'm curious to know this too. I am very familiar with my glute and what to expect, etc. I know where the sciatic nerve is and never hit any veins. I don't know where the nerves are in the quads though. Nor do I know the layout of my veins in that area other than what I can see near surface of the skin.

 

[Bigb21084]

Pick a spot and stick with it. Like slightly on the side of my quad in the middle is a small birthmark, that's my target (Not directly of course), but the vicinity.

 

[heckler7]

A couple of times when I aspirate the plunger seems like it stuck, and when i try to draw even more it makes a "plop" but there aint coming no freaking bubbles- So my question is: does it have to come bubbles? I mean as long that there is no blood shooting out one should be cool...no?

bubbles appear from either pulling the plunger back fast, or too hard. you want to feel the vacum bubbles aren't neccesary. Iv'e used thousands of needles, smooth and easy is best. no need for bubbles. I you hit a vien the blood will draw out easy.