tips to avoid sideeffects and keep gains

[blackoutken]

Im thinking of trying super dmz or hdrol but kinda leary about bad side effects and all any tips to be sucessful ?

thanks

 

[Dolfan84]

My advice would be to ditch the pro hormones and do a test only cycle. 500 mg ew, 12.5 aromasin EOD and clomid for pct 100 75 50 50 with aromasin throughout. If your training and diet is up to par you will keep most or all gains with little sides

 

[alphabolic]

yea ditch the PH's and go test only. if you wanna make recovery easier you can add HCG at 500iu a week.

 

[blackoutken]

test as in just get steroid ?

 

[blackoutken]

whats the bad thing with prohormones? I know orals are harsher on liver

thanks

 

[minimal]

whats the bad thing with prohormones? I know orals are harsher on liver

less effective and more toxic

 

[blackoutken]

ok thanks

 

[XYZ]

Use a couple of liver supplements along with a lot of water. Run it for a short period of time.

For keeping gains all you can do is eat and sleep. I would cut the total volume down in training and up the vitamin C.

 

[GMO]

Use a couple of liver supplements along with a lot of water. Run it for a short period of time.

For keeping gains all you can do is eat and sleep. I would cut the total volume down in training and up the vitamin C.

x2

 

[blackoutken]

what are good liver supplements and where to get ?

thanks

 

[RichardBraden]

what are good liver supplements and where to get ?

thanks

i use liv 52 just google it lots of places sell liv52

 

[Digitalash]

test as in just get steroid ?

Either way you're still taking a steroid, whether it's legal or not. Just go with test

 

[Winny_ng 24/7]

x2

Whats the additional Vitamin C for?

 

[Digitalash]

Whats the additional Vitamin C for?

reduces cortisol

My understanding is that AAS blocks the effects of cortisol, so its not as big a deal while on cycle. But it can become catabolic during pct. Not sure whether its the effects of AAS directly or the increased volume/frequency of training but cortisol is elevated above normal during a cycle. So you take 3grams of vitamin c during pct and for a few weeks to bring it back to normal and help you keep your gains.

 

[blackoutken]

this stuff sound like science and you guys like scientist this is the most complicated stuff ever lol

 

[minimal]

this stuff sound like science and you guys like scientist this is the most complicated stuff ever lol

spend some time to read.. it takes time!

 

[blackoutken]

yea its alot of terms i need to get familiar with

 

[blackoutken]

so if I ordered super dmz and h drol product should I just toss them ? or could I use successfully and go to test or something after?

 

[minimal]

so if I ordered super dmz and h drol product should I just toss them ? or could I use successfully and go to test or something after?

if you already purchased it, i'd say run it. But, make sure you have proper liver / cycle support supps and PCT planned out.

 

[blackoutken]

pct is that the cycle after I run out ?

 

[Digitalash]

You could use one of the orals as a kicker for a test cycle

pct is that the cycle after I run out ?

you should know what pct is, but basically yes its what you run afterwards. Usually clomid, sometimes with aromasin for four weeks

 

[blackoutken]

whats a good place to order test and is it only inject?

 

[IanM4208]

Look at the sponsors here and yes

 

[blackoutken]

thanks

 

[vannesb]

Use a couple of liver supplements along with a lot of water. Run it for a short period of time.

For keeping gains all you can do is eat and sleep. I would cut the total volume down in training and up the vitamin C.

Getting ready to come off my first cycle stack and since I will continue with test should I not keep my gains?

 

[blackoutken]

very useful information the products should be in this week but I don't think ima take them until I get my info and do more research

 

[Life]

very useful information the products should be in this week but I don't think ima take them until I get my info and do more research

Thats refreshing.

 

[XYZ]

Getting ready to come off my first cycle stack and since I will continue with test should I not keep my gains?

You should be fine because you won't have a massive fluctuation in hormones. Blasting and cruising leads to the best results but you have to stay on forever.

 

[Jrluz14]

I'm just about ready to run my first cycle as well. I learned A LOT by reading and studying this:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/104658-first-cycle-pct.html

 

[Digitalash]

Getting ready to come off my first cycle stack and since I will continue with test should I not keep my gains?

yep since you'll never be without test you should have no problem keeping what you gained, you'll probably drop a little water weight but you'll just end up looking better lol. Hell you'll still be gaining while most people will be losing post cycle