Your body will literally tear itself in two to achieve homeostasis. It will spike other hormone levels if it feels it must counteract another (say, testosterone) and yeah, it sucks. But theres still a good chance you'll recover.
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Just got my blood test in, am I fucked?
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Your body will literally tear itself in two to achieve homeostasis. It will spike other hormone levels if it feels it must counteract another (say, testosterone) and yeah, it sucks. But theres still a good chance you'll recover.
considering you ran tren and it was a weak PCT you should be thrilled at those results.
just give it more time and you will bounce back. do not go on HRT, that would be majorly dumb at your age.
next time you need hcg as a kickstart to PCT.
just give it more time and you will bounce back. do not go on HRT, that would be majorly dumb at your age.
next time you need hcg as a kickstart to PCT.
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pitbullguy0101
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youll bounce back bro dont freak out your only 20. the doc aint putting you on hrt thats for sure at 20
pebble
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I have o clue why you would consider HRT. You are in normal ranges for every variable you posted. As far as your doc is concerned you are on the low end of acceptable ranges and should be just fine. If I was your MD I would not even consider putting you on HRT at this point.
Did you do blood work before your cycle? How can you be sure that you are lower now (after the cycle) than you were before?
Sorry that you have low Test dude, but you should have treated this "experiement" with a little more respect and you would know if this is natural or the result of your cycle.
It's silly people are freaking out over this.
4-6 weeks you will be well on you way to recovery. Absolutely nothing to worry about.
4-6 weeks you will be well on you way to recovery. Absolutely nothing to worry about.
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I don't think it is a major issue but you should not of run Tren in first cycle or any AAS cycle at your age really. Why do people think they need more than Test for a first cycle? You don't even know what Test is going to do to you. Now this is my opinion on this issue. You should run another PCT for a few weeks with Aromasin and Clomid.
Aromasin at 25/12.5/12.5mgs ed with Clomid at 100/75/50mgs ed
Then have another blood test done. If you are still low 2-4 wks after that then go to the doctor. You could go to the doctor now anyway but I highly highly doubt any doctor will put you HRT unless you go to a Anti aging clinic and even then they may not chance it or moniter you correctly. Going on a self prescribed TRT is also a very bad idea. This will only reduce the chances of you ever recovering and possibly make it that you may not have kids. Your insurance is almost certainly not going to cover any type of TRT at your age with levels where yours are. This is not considered low by most doctors sadly. I think you will be fine if you avoid AAS for a little while run a 3-4 PCT as I stated above and retest after that. You made a lot of mistakes with your cycle IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR HEALTH DO NOT RUN A CYCLE UNPREPARED AGAIN!!! Going to the doctor can be a good thing but may not work out as good as you would like. I will never say don't go to the doc but the chances of finding a good doc in regards to understanding AAS is not very common. It would not hurt to tell the doc what you did and ask him to prescribe blood work for you.
Aromasin at 25/12.5/12.5mgs ed with Clomid at 100/75/50mgs ed
Then have another blood test done. If you are still low 2-4 wks after that then go to the doctor. You could go to the doctor now anyway but I highly highly doubt any doctor will put you HRT unless you go to a Anti aging clinic and even then they may not chance it or moniter you correctly. Going on a self prescribed TRT is also a very bad idea. This will only reduce the chances of you ever recovering and possibly make it that you may not have kids. Your insurance is almost certainly not going to cover any type of TRT at your age with levels where yours are. This is not considered low by most doctors sadly. I think you will be fine if you avoid AAS for a little while run a 3-4 PCT as I stated above and retest after that. You made a lot of mistakes with your cycle IF YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR HEALTH DO NOT RUN A CYCLE UNPREPARED AGAIN!!! Going to the doctor can be a good thing but may not work out as good as you would like. I will never say don't go to the doc but the chances of finding a good doc in regards to understanding AAS is not very common. It would not hurt to tell the doc what you did and ask him to prescribe blood work for you.
Exactly. I cant believe I read this far down the thread and only found one other person saying this. 4 weeks post cycle?? Thats nothing. It can, and VERY OFTEN DOES, take months for people to recover. Even then, OP, if you do not recover there are still protocols you can use to try to boost it again using HCG, Tore, Tamox, etc.
DO NOT GO on "self-administered TRT until you see your doctor." That is an absolutely horrible idea. If you think youre messed up now....taking more steroids now will make your situation 50 times worse. Give it some time....4 weeks...sheesh...
Yeah low T is a bitch. Do you have any libido? Mine was gone for about 4 months after my last test/tren/mast cycle. It took forever to come back. Its why Im not gonna cycle anymore. Just gonna stick to peptides.
Just retest in 4 weeks. No gear!
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do as your told kid before you fuck up bad
In hindsight, I did misinterpret what was said about when he said no worry for kids, but in my defense the broken English can be a bit difficult to decipher. I still think the post was objectionable, and after all the blatant marketing B.S. in the rest of the thread, any intimation that kids taking AAS is not that bad just rubbed me the wrong way. I've worked with H.S. athletes for many years, and suggesting that it is better than other drugs is not a good way to deal with a drug that is horribly abused by this age group, and can be very costly to their health and well-being. There are plenty of chances for W.P. to market their product here, they don't need to be telling kids 18 and under it is not a big deal, because it is a VERY big deal. Comparing it to other drugs is like talking about violence and saying knives are better than guns.
I've rewrote what WP said so it's easier to understand, I hope you don't mind.
He didnt mean there's no harm in kids taking steroids.
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Don't worry you will still be able to have children but you're to young to start a family! Alot of guys have done over 20cycles and have still managed to have children.
Alot of guys use AAS that are under 18, it's not wise to do so, but it's better than doing real drugs like heroin/crack/meth etc.
He didnt mean there's no harm in kids taking steroids.
Dear friend,no worry for kids..you can still have and you will have it..but you are still too jung for kids!
a lot of guys did over 20 cycles and still have kids...
a lot of guys start to use AAS under 18 also..its not so good. but better AAS then real drugs,etc.
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Don't worry you will still be able to have children but you're to young to start a family! Alot of guys have done over 20cycles and have still managed to have children.
Alot of guys use AAS that are under 18, it's not wise to do so, but it's better than doing real drugs like heroin/crack/meth etc.
lol. thanks man.
can't sleep ???
lol, damn I wish i could go back to being so naive
lol, damn I wish i could go back to being so naive
When you came off cycler and began clomid your body was pumping out aromatase enzyme like mad. The clomid helped to block the estrogen however it seems likely than any test that you may have started to produce naturally was overwhelmed by the circulating enzyme.
when, next year? you've got 50 posts, pm someone who knows what they're doing and ask them to walk you through it , 5 yrs from now.
I think everyone freaked out in this thread, shit.
1. You didn't fuck up, you just didn't fully understand what you were doing
2. The feeling that you're feeling now is in part to your low-ish test range, its ok, you ever wonder why women are fucked in the head? It'll pass
3. You can and will be able to recover from this
There's more knowledgeable people out there than me regarding PCT stuff but this would be my approach:
Run PCT with HCG and aromasin, start the aromasin high before the HCG so its active in your system. I'd also try out some of the OTC stuff that some supplement companies have come up with (unleashed, post cycle - but not necessarily those two products).
After that clears, wait another 4 weeks before being retested and evaluate the situation.
1. You didn't fuck up, you just didn't fully understand what you were doing
2. The feeling that you're feeling now is in part to your low-ish test range, its ok, you ever wonder why women are fucked in the head? It'll pass
3. You can and will be able to recover from this
There's more knowledgeable people out there than me regarding PCT stuff but this would be my approach:
Run PCT with HCG and aromasin, start the aromasin high before the HCG so its active in your system. I'd also try out some of the OTC stuff that some supplement companies have come up with (unleashed, post cycle - but not necessarily those two products).
After that clears, wait another 4 weeks before being retested and evaluate the situation.
Maybe leave the cycles for a little farther in the future than you had planned? If your levels don't bounce back in the next 3-4 weeks, you could have some serious trouble. It's not just about the PCT - playing around with AAS is dangerous around these ages.
UPDATE: Just got back from my doctor's office. I gave him the lab of my hormone panel and he decided to put me on HRT. He said my estrogen was normal (which I don't agree with) and my test was low, so the only option was to put me on supplemental testosterone.
I personally don't like the idea of being on test for the rest of my life, so I'm going to run another PCT for a month and retest. I'm planning on running clomid for 100/100/100/50 with aromasin @12.5 eod. Hopefully I get it right this time and recover..
I appreciate everyone's advice on this, and I'll keep this updated.
I personally don't like the idea of being on test for the rest of my life, so I'm going to run another PCT for a month and retest. I'm planning on running clomid for 100/100/100/50 with aromasin @12.5 eod. Hopefully I get it right this time and recover..
I appreciate everyone's advice on this, and I'll keep this updated.
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Were you honest with the doc about the aas?
Surprising they would put you on hrt knowing you were using aas recently.
Surprising they would put you on hrt knowing you were using aas recently.
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Surprised, and I am not a doctor, but I think you have the right idea while your doctor is flat wrong.
Also, keep exercising (lifting) and eating right. Wait at least another month after your next PCT before blood testing again.
You might want to use the aromasin daily instead of every other day.
I am not sure about Clomid at 100 a day even through week 3. Your poor prostrate is going to be so full of cum something might burst!
Don't forget to do this 
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What kind of doc did you go and see, endo or just your primary MD?
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