Was wondering what the opinions were on weighted dips as a replacement for incline bench. Feel free to chime in.
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Can weighted dips totally replace incline bench?
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not at all in my opinion from a bodybuilding standpoint that is. Incline is upper dips are at most middle but more lower. so the two should be done together.
However as a functional strength/powerlifting exercise the dips are probably prefferable
However as a functional strength/powerlifting exercise the dips are probably prefferable
Just curious, but why? Obviously isn't a shoulder issue if you can still do dips.
I don't buy into this 'flexing different parts of the same muscle' idea, a contraction is a contraction.
With that being said, I find inclines extremely beneficial, much more so that flat bench. If it were me I'd drop the flat and just do dip/inclines.
I don't buy into this 'flexing different parts of the same muscle' idea, a contraction is a contraction.
With that being said, I find inclines extremely beneficial, much more so that flat bench. If it were me I'd drop the flat and just do dip/inclines.
Supervette101
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I'm starting to see more guys in the gym only doing inclines (mainly db) and just dropping flat bench all together.
Are you saying you can't place a muscle at an angle that is more beneficial for a certain region of that muscle?
Trap, this argument has made the rounds more than once on here and I have no desire to start round 465.
From my own experience and the research I've seen, I don't believe so no.
My 2¢.
CaptainNapalm
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Dips resemble more of a decline motion. I wouldn't replace them with incline bench but do them both.
Here is an article about why you can't do that.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/41879-isolating-upper-middle-lower-pecs-chest.html
Here are 3 locked threads.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/4492-how-target-my-upper-chest.html
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/5885-upper-chest.html
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/30621-incline-upper-chest.html
Here is a good one I quote from a lot when I feel like arguing about it. I like what the guy named "Saturday fever" says
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/t...filling-inner-middle-part-my-upper-chest.html
SuperLift
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I target my upper chest the most often, then every workout I make sure I get in flat presses. I rarely do decline presses, usually dips, if anything
irish_2003
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try doing pec shrugs on the dip bars....phil hernon talked about these years ago and i've always done them at the end of a set.....they work the collar bone muscle area better than anything i've ever done
You're not going to have the same routine for the rest of your training life.
Find what works and stick with it until its use/effectiveness runs out. People's body geometry, technique, strength of supporting muscles, overall conditioning ... they vary. That all has an impact on the effectiveness of a movement.
Using a movement in one point of your training career doesn't mean that you cannot go back to it in the future. You can do Movement X, then Y, then Z and always go back to X. Do dips for awhile and once you think you stop growing or getting stronger, move on to something else.
Basically all movements have their intrinsic strengths and weaknesses.
Find what works and stick with it until its use/effectiveness runs out. People's body geometry, technique, strength of supporting muscles, overall conditioning ... they vary. That all has an impact on the effectiveness of a movement.
Using a movement in one point of your training career doesn't mean that you cannot go back to it in the future. You can do Movement X, then Y, then Z and always go back to X. Do dips for awhile and once you think you stop growing or getting stronger, move on to something else.
Basically all movements have their intrinsic strengths and weaknesses.
Great post. I did dips for years and got very little out of them, but my chest development really improved when I started doing declines on a regular basis. It's all based on body mechanics, what works for one will not work for all.
irish_2003
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on the vbar dips for chest, raise into very top of the movement with arms locked and simply shrug yourself up and down without bending your arms......it's working the underneath pec that you can't see which pushing out the upper pec that you can see.....it's a finisher
