Wow, have an open mind there John H. Did I say anything against you? I'm just happy to be hetero. Why do you feel such a need to be defensive and overanalyze every topic?John H. said:
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I know exactly what those guys are saying. They say, "Shut up and blow me! I'll even get out my dick for ya."
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awwww why is that sad? it had a happy ending. it was a nice story really.
i love the car elizabeth hurley drives in bedazzled. she's amazing too.
John H. said:
Gotta call bullshit on this. Homosexuality is not NATURAL. If it were natural it wouldnt be a crime in some states, gay marriage would naturally allowed, they wouldnt have had to had hate crime legislation to protect THEM, it wouldnt be a stigma, it wouldnt be referred to as a scruge on society and finally religion wouldnt denounce it and shun it. So, IT AINT NATURAL
Cold Iron said:
Hi Cold,
AND, THICK ENOUGH!!!
Take Care, John H.
LW83 said:
Hi Luke,
You DRIVE an "eighteen wheeler" in my humble, respectful, honorable opinion.....
TDGC,
John H.
MTN WARRIOR said:
Hi Mtn,
Actually EACH IS COMPLETELY NATURAL: Heterosexuality, BiSexuality and Homosexuality. And DOES EXIST naturally in Nature and the Natural World of which we all are a part.
Here is one book that discusses Homosexuality among animals: BIOLOIGICAL EXUBERANCE, by Bruce Bagemihl (St. Martin's Press).
Also any botany book will discuss BiSexuality among plants for example.
You are basing your beliefs on what you have been told by others and/or learned erronously.
Take Care, John H.
there is a lot of weird shit in nature. rape is common even bugs do it. some bug rapes the female by stabbing her in the back through her exoskeloton with their penis. doesn't mean i want to try it. 
no no not her backdoor her back back. geeze. 
no no not her backdoor her back back. geeze.
female hyenas have a freaky mock penis. hmmm come to think of it i've seen clits like that. 
sometimes female spiders kill the male after sex. hmmm natural yes but doesn't mean it's okay for me to do it.
rockgazer69 said:there is a lot of weird shit in nature. rape is common even bugs do it. some bug rapes the female by stabbing her in the back through her exoskeloton with their penis. doesn't mean i want to try it.
Hi Rock,
"Murder" is natural too. It happens all the time. And comes in many "forms". Even "mental"...
I am speaking about people WHO AGREE to have Sexual relations with each other in an effort to show each other that THEY CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER SINCERELY AND HONESTLY - REGARDLESS OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Because their Sexual Orientation has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO with a person expressing to another THEY CARE ABOUT THEM HONESTLY. And it has absolutely nothing to do with murder - or "spider bites"... AND that they ARE NOT JUST USING each other which apparently is natural with human beings because the using of another seems to be rampant. Human beings are very often the CRUELEST of the Animal Kingdom. I've seen animals EVERY DAY treat each other MUCH BETTER than Human Beings do. And I have seen animals treat Human Beings better than Human Beings treat each other.
What you speak of may just have real purpose - I did not "create" this world certainly and neither did you or anyone else that is Human. There is a LOT we all do not understand or even have any real knowledge about - and in a lot of cases with Human Beings those Human Beings do not even make any honest effort to UNDERSTANDING or LEARNING to know "the why" of it all. To just condemn or damn WITHOUT the facts is what Human Beings do ALL the time. Including EACH OTHER.
"Bug rapes" - I have no idea as to the "why" of it - but I suspect that is a natural variation that exists for a reason. It could be that this is just the "methodology" that is utilized to accomplish the Sexual act with those bugs. Short of us "asking them" directly and getting an answer we could understand we would need to investigate all of that from a scientific viewpoint and may still not get an answer that would "satisfy" us.
Who knows - MAYBE it is that the bugs are BETTER at Sex than we are and understand better. Or have developed Sexual methods to a higher degree than Human Beings.. Who knows. And does that then make us "jealous" in some fashion?
Take Care, John H.
rockgazer69 said:sometimes female spiders kill the male after sex. hmmm natural yes but doesn't mean it's okay for me to do it.
Hi Rock,
There is a book, FORBIDDEN FRIENDSHIPS, by Michael Rocke (Oxford University Press) which discusses Sexuality among Men in Florence, Italy, around 1400-1500 A. D.. I made a thread about it ("Nearly 50% of ALL Men" I think was the title of the thread).
In that book is shows how nearly half of ALL men THAT WERE CAUGHT - THAT WERE CAUGHT! - were involved with other Men Sexually. And I asked how it is that this many Men found it so good to have Sex with each other and continued for a long period of time doing this BEFORE they were eventually caught and "prosecuted" for this private expression of feelings toward each other - how it could in any way be considered "wrong". And if this happened in one town in Italy how prevalent was it in other towns throughout the world? The only reason we have information about this ONE town is because this information that DOCUMENTS this happening SURVIVED. How many other towns in the world have had the same situation and condition where this was not documented or if documented why was that information lost or destroyed and for what reason? How is it that so many Men found it completely ok to have Sexual relations with each other? How is it then NOT completely natural? Yes, you can say that there would be a reduction in the amount of new Human Beings being reproduced. That would be a fact. But that DOES NOT MEAN that more Human Beings would not be born - there would and always will be more Human Beings being born no matter what happens. It seems to me that this is (Sex between Men) a NATURAL occurrance WITH A VALID PURPOSE. I am quite sure that ALL Sexual relationships that involve an orgasm to the point of ejaculation ARE NOT ALWAYS MEANT to procreate. This world would be FULL - OVERRUN - with other Human Beings given the fertility rate of some Human Beings.
And God HIMSELF and Christ HIMSELF - NEVER - NEVER - said one word about Sex between Men being wrong. Or of Sex between Women being wrong. MEN - HUMAN BEINGS - have made this statement - but NOT God and NOT Christ. I am SURE that IF it was "so wrong" that THEY WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING probably MANY TIMES too. THEY NEVER DID. Certainly They did not "forget" to mention it...
Take Care, John H.
John H.
It seems to me, from the few threads I've read with your input. That you fell you need to push tolerance and acceptance on those that are not seeking life lessons. If you need to constantly rationalize to yourself and others that tolerance and acceptance are natural states/virtues that the human condition should be completely at ease with then I think you need to pick up your attendance in Psychology 101. Stereotypes are natural, they're the tool the human mind uses to make quick categorizations of the threats that they may encounter. You're way off base in your assessments of religion as condoning particular forms of sexuality. Just because a certain doctrine of religion doesn't, in your view, discount the "rightness" of your decision. It doesn't condone it either. The Bible is what it is, a guide to show people how they should treat others, and how to worship a particular God. I don't believe you are a subscriber to a Christian side of religion, so, what consequence is it to you? Your reading of Italy's gay percentage is not relevant, we have documented high percentages of gay people in many areas of America....they're called prisons. In the end, what it seems to boil down to is...You believe that those who don't hold your view are somehow against it. that's incorrect, I don't believe in being gay because I don't believe I'd like the sensation of a penis in my a$$. That's what being gay pretty much boils down to, you like something that someone else doesn't. Unfortunately for you, most of the population doesn't like it either. And until the day when popular opinion sways to embrace homosexuals, you will be ostracized by a few people who think you're nuts. It's your choice, you take the good with the bad. The good being that warm fuzzy you get while having sex with a man, the bad being the browbeatings you take for having sex with a man.
Finally, I don't personally care what you are, it's your choice (or nature's) choice that has made you what you are. But, there's no reason for you to point out "variety" and "nature" and the joining of 2 consenting adults in a broke-dick attempt to rationalize (covertly) what society has deemed "deviant behavior"
You don't need to....
P.S. I still don't think "fisting" is a good idea, either.
It seems to me, from the few threads I've read with your input. That you fell you need to push tolerance and acceptance on those that are not seeking life lessons. If you need to constantly rationalize to yourself and others that tolerance and acceptance are natural states/virtues that the human condition should be completely at ease with then I think you need to pick up your attendance in Psychology 101. Stereotypes are natural, they're the tool the human mind uses to make quick categorizations of the threats that they may encounter. You're way off base in your assessments of religion as condoning particular forms of sexuality. Just because a certain doctrine of religion doesn't, in your view, discount the "rightness" of your decision. It doesn't condone it either. The Bible is what it is, a guide to show people how they should treat others, and how to worship a particular God. I don't believe you are a subscriber to a Christian side of religion, so, what consequence is it to you? Your reading of Italy's gay percentage is not relevant, we have documented high percentages of gay people in many areas of America....they're called prisons. In the end, what it seems to boil down to is...You believe that those who don't hold your view are somehow against it. that's incorrect, I don't believe in being gay because I don't believe I'd like the sensation of a penis in my a$$. That's what being gay pretty much boils down to, you like something that someone else doesn't. Unfortunately for you, most of the population doesn't like it either. And until the day when popular opinion sways to embrace homosexuals, you will be ostracized by a few people who think you're nuts. It's your choice, you take the good with the bad. The good being that warm fuzzy you get while having sex with a man, the bad being the browbeatings you take for having sex with a man.
Finally, I don't personally care what you are, it's your choice (or nature's) choice that has made you what you are. But, there's no reason for you to point out "variety" and "nature" and the joining of 2 consenting adults in a broke-dick attempt to rationalize (covertly) what society has deemed "deviant behavior"
You don't need to....
P.S. I still don't think "fisting" is a good idea, either.
Voltimus said:
Hi Voltimus,
Please re-read what I have said. And I have NEVER said that I - I - have done fisting myself or had it done to me. I have only stated that I have seen it done by others and watched closely - as a way of UNDERSTAND "the why" of it all and I CAN UNDERSTAND how someone WHO CARES ABOUT ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WHO IS OF AGE AND ABILITY OF CONSENT AND GIVES THAT CONSENT FREELY could engage in this variation of LOVING another THEY TRULY CARE ABOUT. Each person makes their own decisions that they are or can become confortable with.
Much of what we know we HAVE LEARNED or HEARD FROM others NOT something that is "inheritant". There are many forms and avenues of learning. Anyone that does his best in this regard will consider ALL information from ALL sources ALL the time and OBJECTIVELY. Because they HOPEFULLY are seeking HONEST TRUTH ACURATELY and never just letting others "just shove" something down their throats - INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO RELIGION.
If you - MEANING YOU - are NOT seeking "life lessons" that is entirely up to you as an individual. People have - as one form - learned from others but they also learn from other ways too. "Life lessons" are NOT always the best way to learn although they can be especially if someone wants to see what others have experienced in their lives and how it "turned out" for them... You could liken that to someone wanting to find out what it is like to get burned so they THEMSELVES stick their hands into a hot oven - and get burned - OR - they could ask someone that it happened to and what the result was. I would prefer to ask and not find out for myself as I have the capability to UNDERSTAND what it must be like to do something like that and know the end result WITHOUT FINDING OUT MYSELF. Another form of learning or knowing "life lessons" IS TO DISCUSS FREELY and AS A MATURE ADULT or one wanting to become one TO DISCUSS - ANYTHING. "Figure it all out" form of learning... If we LIMIT what we learn than we LIMIT ourselves. We put ourselves into a "personal prison" which IS what many "religious-types" do - they are terrified somehow by the thought of "straying in any manner" INCLUDING the GOD-GIVEN right to QUESTION ALL THINGS. Being narrow-minded is a danger to each individual that subscribes to that conduct. And to others. "Stereotypes" can be and are learned as well. Very much so.
The Bible, it is just ONE form/book for ONE "religion". Not all "religions" subscribe to what it has to say. Or accept it at all. The Bible is the work of HUMAN BEINGS - MEN - at least 40 each with their own viewpoint. It IS a collection of literature - essays, prose, poems, etc. OF ONE "RELIGION". "Religion" is MAN-MADE also. Completely so. What one "religion" "believes" does not mean that another will "believe" the same thing. And they very often do not agree on much which is why there are so many "religions". Religion is nothing more than glorified politics. And as with Men they ARE VERY POLITICAL. Which is why I have not much use for them at all especially based on their past and even present practices. I DO believe in God, a "Higher Being", etc. or whatever you wish to call Him. It is "religion" I do not have much use for BASED ON THEIR CONDUCT and how they often treat others and most often for their own existance, their power over others, and the collecting of wealth to perpetuate themselves and the brainwashing they DO.
What you are saying is that "christians" consider the Bible as their only need and source. I am saying that I do NOT JUST CONSIDER ONE SOURCE FOR ANYTHING INCLUDING THE BIBLE. I CONSIDER ALL INFORMATION FROM ALL SOURCES OBJECTIVELY. The Bible certainly HAS ITS FLAWS being written BY MEN. It is a HUMAN CREATION just as with any other book. I can say this BECAUSE IT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE. Look at the contradictions within the Bible itself. Look at some of what the Bible - as a "religious article" - condones or perpetuates. It is NOT ALL "good" to be sure.
I read one book that discusses what HAPPENED in a FREE SOCIETY - NOT PRISON - in Italy and is documented (FORBIDDEN FRIENDSHIPS, by Michael Rocke, Published by Oxford University Press). So I can certainly ask then after reading this one book "if this happened here in Italy" it CERTAINLY MUST HAVE HAPPENED elsewhere in the world. And "how is it that so MANY MEN found it 'so right' - INCLUDING those Men who set themselves up to prosecute those they "caught"? How is it that even some of those that were out to get those "sinners" were THEMSELVES involved with other Men Sexually? And found it just fine. And you have to ask yourself what happened BEFORE the "invention of religion" because this world is MILLIONS of years old at the very least. Surely these actions must have gone on all over the world prior to the "invention of religion". And were successful. And found very acceptable. They are natural variations just as with anything else in life.
Another example of what has happened is documented in at least two books: GUARDIANS OF THE FLUTES: IDIOMS OF MASCULINITY, by Gilbert Herdt (McGraw-Hill Book Co.) and RITUALIZED HOMOSEXUALITY IN MELANESIA, edited by Gilbert Herdt, Published by University of California Press). In these books it documents Sexual behavior among Men in Melanesia and surrounding areas and their becoming Men and how they achieve Manhood. One of the things they do is to live with other Men totally void of any Women until they reach a certain age usually around 25 years old or so. And one of the ways they feel they become Men is by injesting the semen of other Men who are adults because that is how Manhood is transferred from one Man to another Man. This has been going on for a very long time and has apparently been very successful for them. And the Men do naturally go to Women later in life and/or stay with Men according to their natural feelings.
You are stereotyping and being bigoted and even narrow-minded in your own statement when you speak of "...being gay... (and) ..the sensation of a penis up (an) a$$..." as "...what being gay pretty much boils down to..." which COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH anymore than being Heterosexual ONLY involves one Man and one Woman fucking and doing nothing more. There is CARE AND LOVE involved and the ONE sexual act you mention is NOT the WHOLE of the experience for anyone Heterosexual, BiSexual or Homosexual.
"Society", PEOPLE have LEARNED AND BEEN TAUGHT that Homosexuality, for example, "is wrong" when in fact that is not the case at all and it IS COMPLETELY NATURAL just as any other form of Sexuality. The FACTS are so. There IS variation in ALL things in life INCLUDING SEXUALITY. NATURALLY SO. INTENDED SO. That you - or "most" - have "learned" is NOT what IS FACT but what has been forced on you "to believe" but is NOT BASED ON THE FACTS.
Take Care, John H.
Woah, woah, woah... who makes "the states" the teller of all rules within the world.. glad our country saw through the bullshit of yours cause we are definately reaping the benefits. More and more americans are moving to Canada cause your country is starting to suck ass with its rule making Bush. If he was smart, he would have saw that legalizing gay marriage would create even more tourism/immigration. Thats what politicians like right, money? The more the better? Hell, more money means better army, hah.MTN WARRIOR said:
Sometimes I wish I could thorockgazer69 said:sometimes female spiders kill the male after sex. hmmm natural yes but doesn't mean it's okay for me to do it.
Muscle_Girl said:
Hi Muscle_Girl,
Now we can agree on some things. First - you being Canadian - GREAT!!! Canadians are very level-headed mostly and down-to-earth and SEE things for what they actually are - something the USA USED to be able to say. We DO have a LOT of really strange things going on in this country - and I am NOT talking about those people who happen to be Homosexual for example because that IS something that HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE just as with Heterosexuality and BiSexuality - SOMETHING NATURE INTENDS TO BE AND RIGHTLY SO. But I am talking about the "religious thing" and the "politics" - this country IS DYING because of that BS. TRUST ME. These people want to put all people into a "straight jacket" - that is these people want ALL your money and YOUR FREEDOM TO EVEN LIVE and have POWER over you to where THEY CONTROL EVERY MOVE YOU OR I MAKE. It is a sickness with them. And it seems to be growing, although I think with the Teri Schivo (spelling?) thing - her situation - I think people are starting to wake up somewhat as to what is happening in this country...
And I won't get into the Iraq thing - even the Iraq's think they are LOOSING their country to others INTERNALLY (the SAME that were causing trouble in the first place - the second we leave EVERYTHING WILL RETURN TO SQUARE ONE THERE TRUST ME!!!.... I am a war veteran and KNOW about war and when we went into Iraq I felt and still feel it is another Vietnam...)
As for Americans moving to Canada, you would probably have even more if the weather was a little warmer and less "wintery" although I know this is not the case everwhere in Canada. But Canada IS LOOKING DAMN GOOD!!!!! Canada has COMMON SENSE.
Oh, and the "money" - you are right about the politicians and money but you are forgetting that "RELIGION" is the VERY SAME - it IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND HAVING POWER OVER OTHERS TOO - BIGTIME!!!! I have absolutely no problem with God it IS with "RELIGION" I have NO USE FOR because of what it REALLY IS - GLORIFIED POLITICS....
And as for "the states" there ARE some here that THINK they DO HAVE A "GOD-GIVEN" "GIFT" to TELL the world what they SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT DO AND HOW AND WHEN - according to "THEIR RULES". It IS HERE even as we speak... And IT ABSOLUTELY IS - BULLSHIT - PURE BULLSHIT - POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS (they are both tied at the hips and the lips!!!!!!) ...
I can't wait to see what kind of "challenge" the "Christian coalition" puts forth towards the Legal System in this country - that "coalition" is nothing more than people who have COMPLETELY LOST THEIR MINDS and AREA VERY EXTREMIST. Imagine this, I almost think the "coalition" IF THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD ANY CHANCE would DAMN GOD HIMSELF for "taking Terry Schivo" WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION - FIRST. Hell when it is a person's time to go IT IS. She has been suffering for MORE than 15 years in this state and life is NOT for her as she now exists and has not been really for most of the last 15 YEARS - and WHO THE HELL is going to continue to pay for her medical care which has to ASTRONOMICAL - and what about all the rest of the population that DOES NOT WANT TO DIE EITHER? Will the "coalition" get involved with that too? Dr. Kivorkian tried to - as a Medical Doctor - provide a sane and safe and HELPFUL way to allow those who were terminally ill to end their life because the suffering they endure was of no use for anyone and look what happened to him..... He CARED HONESTLY about people and their suffering...
Take Care, John H.
Muscle_Girl said:Sometimes I wish I could tho
Hi Muscle_Girl,
This is where I disagree with you. But I am SURE there are Men who feel the same way about some Women too. And RIGHTLY SO - and even THROUGHOUT HISTORY. Some of the WORST "people" have been and are Female. Not ALL but a HELL OF A LOT.
Take Care, John H.
OMG he IS captain kirk!!!!!! there's some THING on the wing.... 
sorry john. howsitgoing? good morning.
sorry john. howsitgoing? good morning.rockgazer69 said:OMG he IS captain kirk!!!!!! there's some THING on the wing....
Hi Rock,
Things are fine really. GOOD MORNING TO YOU!!!!!!
I am leaving soon because I am to pick up a Bull Calf - Guernsey - today... To add to the "flock".... Ya gotta watch out all the time for them though because they WILL surprise you when you least expect it... but they can be hillarious too like all the other animals... And fun to have around... One of my Amish Buddies is going to help...
Take Care, John H.
Explains why you are so weird..John H. said:
On a serious note, I believe those 2 were the only posts of yours in which I actually read in full, lol. I do agree with the stuff you said, though I am not one that puts time into thinking there is a life after death. To me, I just find people choose to believe in bullshit like that because they are afraid of life itself and its outcome.
Whats happening to Terri is very sad, I really wish it wouldn't have come down to 15 years later that they actually realize that she was dead 15 years ago.
I forgot about the fact of religion in politics. Though, I think most politics only play on the religion aspect and are likely not religious as they act in front of the camera. You say your doing something in the name of god and you get 20% more votes. It disgusts me that people actually buy into that complete bullshit.
Though I still hate you, I believe we do see eye to eye on some things
Amish buddy? That's kinda cool. Nice to lead an interesting life. My aunt used to have this massive hereford bull named Rex, in the strange and wonderful minds of children however they work, he was our friend. Our mothers nearly died of fright when they found us in the pasture with him but no matter how they warned us we never stayed away.He had the heart of Ferdinand, the bull from the childrens story, and somehow we knew it.John H. said:
We watch bull riding now and i now know how our moms felt but it's strange how unbull-like he was. One of my uncles friends went into the pasture to look for my uncle one day. About four hours later us kids rescued him from atop an old tractor. He was escaping from Rex who was calmly circling the tractor wondering what that guy was doing on that damn tractor that even the cows knew didn't work anymore. It took us a while to talk him down.
