One of the most important principles this country was founded upon was liberty. Everything should be legal unless there's a good reason to ban it. Gay marriage should be legal because no one can put forth a good reason to ban it.
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Oh so now people are only allowed to comprehend want you want them to? You wish we had comprehension gestapo! You raging Nazi hypocrite! Hitler would be impressed with the fascism you're spreading.
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Nice red-herring...
My point is that you're doing the same stuff your blaming religious people for. Your logic is hypocritical, flawed, and generally blows.
I say you can discriminate based on sexual preference if it causes physical or mental harm to someone directly involved, but not based on presumed spiritual harm. I have nothing against polygamy if everyone involved is willing. Incest is wrong because if a child were birthed it has a high chance of retardation, even if it were homosexual incest there is a psychological cause for it they are mistaking familial love for passion and/or sexual attraction.
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I'm trying to pass legislation that discriminates against a group of people?
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The problem is there is no harm.
How does gay marriage affect you?
It was punishable by death because it was a capital crime under the Jewish law, ie a sin.
I love all people regardless if they are gay or not. Please don't label me because I believe in God.
Contempt for Christians as a whole because of their religion is bigotry. Please examine yourself before labeling and accusing others.
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I wasn't referring to you as a bigot. I'm referring to those that wish to force others to live according to their religious beliefs, when they don't share the same beliefs. It's perfectly ok for a church to have the opinion that homosexuality is immoral and not perform the marriages. They just cant force the government to make it illegal.
You say you love all people, I'm not sure your stance on gay marriage, but when a Christian says they love gay people but then want to make their lives miserable by preventing them from marrying is a joke.
Like I've said many times, it's not ok to discriminate based on race, sex, religion, or sexual preference. Christians or muslims don't get to get away w it because their book says its ok.
It's no different for someone to try to force legislation preventing interracial marriage because their religion says its immoral. It's bigotry just the same as being anti gay marriage.
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No, you've given up on reading.
You're anti-big brother, but when it comes to something you don't like -- religion -- you advocate thought police. Additionally, you bitch and moan about religious people forcing their world-view on you, but you're pretty fucking quick to do the same if it's about something you don't like.
Today these libtards changed the definition of marriage. next they will change the definition of parents, brothers, sisters and so on. there is ending to it. It is matter of time one day you can have sex with your moms, dads, brothers, or sisters as long as it is not a rape it will be acceptable. These fucking libtards.
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You do realize that marriage was traditionally a father marrying his daughter off in exchange for money or property, right? Should we go back to traditional marriage? It was also traditional to not allow blacks and whites to marry and us libtards changed that too. It's called progress and you lose, lol.
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It seems you don't read well. You can think what you want, you just don't get to put your thoughts into legislation unless there's a good reason and it doesn't infringe on others rights. It's pretty simple
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Exactly. No one has the right to impose their own religious beliefs on others. I've seen far too many examples of heterosexual couples raising children poorly to even consider your argument fit26.
Having gay parents does not make you gay. being gay is not a choice; it's something that your brain is wired for regardless of your environment.
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It seems you don't read well. You can think what you want, you just don't get to put your thoughts into legislation unless there's a good reason and it doesn't infringe on others rights. It's pretty simple
"Unless there's a good reason?" Based on whose reasoning? You really aren't getting it. People should be -- and are -- able to vote based entirely on what they believe, regardless of what you or others think. Insomuch that it doesn't violate items like The Constitution and Bill of Rights. You, however, think that religious people shouldn't be able to vote based on their beliefs...unless of course it matches up with yours...
My point here isn't that gays shouldn't be allowed to get married -- I've already said several times that they should be allowed to -- but that religious people should be allowed to vote how they want to. Which sent you into thought-police territory.
They already did that. Kids are forced to accept their male mother or female dad. Its all fucked up.
One parent is better, then?
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And I already said that people should be able to vote solely based on their religion. Laws just can't be enacted that violate the rights of others. And, if you say that such and such should be illegal because the bible says so, you're not making enough of an argument for such a law.
As a child, I would have preferred a single parent any day.
all the shit that happens on a daily basis and and the fact anyone would give a damn if 2 homos/lesbos want to tie the knot is amazing
let them do whatever they want, a wedding means more spending in small businesses and local shops, wedding hall, reception etc etc, a couple means less roaming and spreading of disease (for gays and straights alike), and more work for the lawyers to divorce them when chico the filipino pool boy catches someones eye.....
all things will and must change.....
let them do whatever they want, a wedding means more spending in small businesses and local shops, wedding hall, reception etc etc, a couple means less roaming and spreading of disease (for gays and straights alike), and more work for the lawyers to divorce them when chico the filipino pool boy catches someones eye.....
all things will and must change.....
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im sure gAYS CANT FUCK UP being married anymore than straight people
I don't think you read my thread in the right frame of mind, unless you ARE ok with incest and forced polygamy(muslim type ie)?
Daddy or mommy issues?
very true, and its their problem to deal with if they do
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I think that you make a good point about the dangers of having incestual children. And, of course forced anything should be illegal. I have no prob w consensual polygamy though.
If we were to find that kids raised by a black dad and white mom faired worse in school or were likely to get into more trouble, we still couldn't prevent them from marrying because its discrimination.
Either way, gay marriage harms nobody.
Luckily neither. You really think an alpha male child with gays for parents won't be an absolute disaster? Let them marry but keep them away from children.
There is absolutely zero evidence that gays do worse as parents than straights.
As the supreme court most eloquently stated. Cell phones have been around longer than gay marriage.
The fact is children due better in homes where there is a mother and a father. men and women are different, and both roles ideally should be fulfilled in a home for children. crime goes down when the traditional basic family unit is strong. that's just a fact.
There have been individuals in this thread who have stated they are ok with both polygamy and incest. no use even continuing the argument if that is what we are dealing with here in the US
