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Gay marriage

exphys88 said:
Explain why we should be able to say that gays can't marry, but can't say blacks can't marry whites, or Catholics can't marry Jews?

If my religion believed that its sinful for Jews to marry Muslims, should we be able to make that law? If not, explain the difference between that and gay marriage.
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I don't think that guys should be denied the right. However, other people are free to vote as they like, even if it's counter to what I want.

Ultimately, it'll go to the Supreme court, they'll make the decision that some part of the Constitution allows for it, and then gays will be able to get married. Which is how it should work, and not the thought-police way that you think it should.
 
LAM said:
if you look at the 5 types of "law" used in the US it does not fit in that framework.

* criminal law - crimes against persons and property
* civil law - settle disputes between individuals, groups and government
* administrative - laws and regulations involving the executive branch and it's agents
* international - US and other foreign nations
* constitutional - issues involving the infringement of civil rights
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None of which has jack to do with a person being allowed to vote based on what they choose to believe.
 
DOMS said:
I don't think that guys should be denied the right. However, other people are free to vote as they like, even if it's counter to what I want.

Ultimately, it'll go to the Supreme court, they'll make the decision that some part of the Constitution allows for it, and then gays will be able to get married. Which is how it should work, and not the thought-police way that you think it should.
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Fair enough. I don't care if people vote that interracial is illegal either, but it's discrimination and should ultimately be struck down as that. It's not illegal to vote according to your religion, you just have to accept that because of the separation of church and state, those laws that you vote for will be deemed unconstitutional as the CA Court did.
 
troubador said:
You said it's male+female in whatever context. I guess you meant marriage is male+female in whatever context, which would be circular reasoning.
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Oh ok, now I gotcha!
 
Milwdude said:
I seriously don't understand why people would be threatened by it. If it works for you then go for it. Its a legal document that does have benefits and consequences. Why can't everyone be treated equally? Don't care about your sexual preference, race, religion, etc.

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Come back to this threat when you can converse like an adult. This has nothing to do with being "threatened by it." :coffee:
 
exphys88 said:
Fair enough. I don't care if people vote that interracial is illegal either, but it's discrimination and should ultimately be struck down as that. It's not illegal to vote according to your religion, you just have to accept that because of the separation of church and state, those laws that you vote for will be deemed unconstitutional as the CA Court did.
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I've seen this phrase trotted out by plenty of atheists...all of which had no idea what it means.
 
DOMS said:
I've seen this phrase trotted out by plenty of atheists...all of which had no idea what it means.
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Interestingly, atheists seem to know exactly what it means, hence the continual winning of court cases involving it. Are you sure you know what it means?
 
exphys88 said:
Interestingly, atheists seem to know exactly what it means, hence the continual winning of court cases involving it. Are you sure you know what it means?
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Oh, so when you pervert something it's okay, but when other people do it...

The sepraation of church and state, as set down by the Founding Fathers, didn't mean that absolute squashing of all things religious.
 
The topic just hits home for me. My brother has been in a committed relationship for over 15 years to include a beautiful baby girl which he is the father. I would jump on a plane tomorrow for his wedding in CA if it was allowed. They have a family in every way but they are not allowed to marry.

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exphys88 said:
Interestingly, atheists seem to know exactly what it means, hence the continual winning of court cases involving it. Are you sure you know what it means?
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It means religious beliefs are protected by the Constitution, and that the state will not enact a Church of the United States. That's what it means. It doesn't mean people can't vote according to their religious ideals. As a matter of fact the founders all voted according to their ideals much of which was determined by their individual religious, and Christian beliefs.
 
secdrl said:
This is also the type of perversion that accompanies gay marriage. I've said it for years; if you allow gay marriage, it'll open the door for more perversion.

Indiana Woman Wants to Marry Her Pet Dog ? Tries to Rally Support From Gay Rights? Activists
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I fear the individuals in this thread are hopelessly lost.

When I asked the question of continuing this to polygamy and incest after gay marriage the only responses I got were in support of them. If one can rationalize incest in their mind, then gay marriage is nothing.
 
bio-chem said:
I fear the individuals in this thread are hopelessly lost.

When I asked the question of continuing this to polygamy and incest after gay marriage the only responses I got were in support of them. If one can rationalize incest in their mind, then gay marriage is nothing.
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It has nothing to do with supporting them, it has everything to do with freedom and liberty. Besides, how do those things affect you personally? How does it affect your life?
 
secdrl said:
This is also the type of perversion that accompanies gay marriage. I've said it for years; if you allow gay marriage, it'll open the door for more perversion.

Indiana Woman Wants to Marry Her Pet Dog ? Tries to Rally Support From Gay Rights? Activists
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There's no evidence that allowing gay marriage will cause an increase in this type of behavior. The fact that she wants support from gay rights activists is irrelevant. If she wanted the support of the church would that make Christianity the door to more perversion? Of course not.
 
troubador said:
There's no evidence that allowing gay marriage will cause an increase in this type of behavior. The fact that she wants support from gay rights activists is irrelevant. If she wanted the support of the church would that make Christianity the door to more perversion? Of course not.
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There very few of them. It is very risky for any political party to support them. There have to be many of them, then it will be worth taking risk for political parties.
 
fit26 said:
There very few of them. It is very risky for any political party to support them. There have to be many of them, then it will be worth taking risk for political parties.
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Exactly, it's a non-issue.
 
bio-chem said:
It means religious beliefs are protected by the Constitution, and that the state will not enact a Church of the United States. That's what it means. It doesn't mean people can't vote according to their religious ideals. As a matter of fact the founders all voted according to their ideals much of which was determined by their individual religious, and Christian beliefs.
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Luckily for our country the courts disagree w you. You cannot write your religion into legislation, period. Why are teachers not allowed to pray in school? Why is creationism not allowed to be taught in school. Why are sodomy laws struck down?

You should just get over it, you're on the losing side, and your loss is coming soon.
 
exphys88 said:
Luckily for our country the courts disagree w you. You cannot write your religion into legislation, period. Why are teachers not allowed to pray in school? Why is creationism not allowed to be taught in school. Why are sodomy laws struck down?

You should just get over it, you're on the losing side, and your loss is coming soon.
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Of course the courts agree with me. No one is writing their religion into legislation, and I'd like you to show how voting against Gay marriage breaks the first amendment? There isn't a single person on the hill talking about how Gay marriage is a first amendment issue. Creationism is not a science, why would it be taught in school? Tell me something there sparky. Why is it that Sodomy laws didn't break the first amendment when the first amendment was written?
 
bio-chem said:
Of course the courts agree with me. No one is writing their religion into legislation, and I'd like you to show how voting against Gay marriage breaks the first amendment? There isn't a single person on the hill talking about how Gay marriage is a first amendment issue. Creationism is not a science, why would it be taught in school? Tell me something there sparky. Why is it that Sodomy laws didn't break the first amendment when the first amendment was written?
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He said they disagree with you. -1 for reading comprehension.
 
Zaphod said:
He said they disagree with you. -1 for reading comprehension.
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and i was disagreeing with him and saying they do agree with me -10 for severe stupidity.

I'll extend the question to you. Where does Gay Marriage come up in the 1st Amendment? People can disagree with Gay Marriage, or Sodomy outside of religion. Voting against either has nothing to do with the state sponsoring a religion. And in fact the 1st Amendment protects my right to believe, and vote however the fuck I want religiously speaking.

So, how exactly do the Courts disagree with me?
 
The supreme court rules on whether a bill is unconstitutional. The 1st amendment has nothing to do with voting rights. No one shit, legally speaking of course, why people vote one way or another.
 
bio-chem said:
and i was disagreeing with him and saying they do agree with me -10 for severe stupidity.

I'll extend the question to you. Where does Gay Marriage come up in the 1st Amendment? People can disagree with Gay Marriage, or Sodomy outside of religion. Voting against either has nothing to do with the state sponsoring a religion. And in fact the 1st Amendment protects my right to believe, and vote however the fuck I want religiously speaking.

So, how exactly do the Courts disagree with me?
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People are objecting to gay marriage based on religion. -20 for your moronic arguments.
 
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