I am Sexual

[John H.]

I am a Sexual human being. I love people. Men and Women. Those I TRULY CARE about I like it if we each agree to also have a Sexual relationship. ONLY if we both agree and feel it is right for both of us.


People will say "I am Gay", I am "BiSexual", I am "Straight", etc. I feel the labels are not CONstructive but DEstructive. To all. I feel people NEED to BE who they TRULY ARE - HONESTLY. Honestly with themselves and it SHOULD BE that they can be honestly with others WHO CARE ABOUT THEM.

Yes others NEED to know if someone they like is Heterosexual, BiSexual or Homosexual. But knowing that should NEVER DAMN someone with others. Each is a completely natural variation of Humanity. Intended!

The "Gay" business, the "Straight" business, etc. is ALL DEstructive. And can be damning. And damns Humanity.

Take Care, John H.

 

[bio-chem]

yet another one john. isnt this like kicking the proverbial "dead horse"?

just let it die already. we dont give a damn that your gay.

 

[Pepper]

yet another one john. isnt this like kicking the proverbial "dead horse"?

just let it die already. we dont give a damn that your gay.

Johh H. Post Checklist:

• mention that he is gay CHECK
• randomly capitalize words CHECK
• take shot at religion OPPS!

 

[bio-chem]

Johh H. Post Checklist:

• mention that he is gay CHECK
• randomly capitalize words CHECK
• take shot at religion OPPS!

give him a sec to warm up. the anti-religion fiasco is his grand finish on this thread me thinks

 

[TriZZle305]

lol john is WEIRD.. hows that for DEstructive

 

[Twigz]

I really dont care what you are, but I do have a question. What purpose does homosexual sex serve?

 

[mervin]

There is nothing natural about homosexuality. Nature and human anatomy testifies against the practice of homosexuality. It is against nature.

 

[John H.]

I really dont care what you are, but I do have a question. What purpose does homosexual sex serve?

Hi Twigz,

My purpose for saying I am Sexual is that I feel all people are, period! The labels that have been created to "attach" to individuals I feel promotes hatred, bigotry, misunderstanding, etc.

Like anything else in life each thing has a purpose(s) and meaning(s). You could even ask "what purpose do trees or insects or salt water, etc." serve. Everything in life has a purpose and a meaning. The MORE you read and the more you question about anything the better your UNDERSTANDING will be about whatever. In Sex it is VERY IMPORTANT to UNDERSTAND ALL ASPECTS of it. It is a very basic subject all human beings need to know about. What is "right" - or not - for each person should be based on a thorough knowledge of Sex in all its forms that way you can make your best decisions about whatever and have a much better UNDERSTANDING about Sex and Sexuality.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

There is nothing natural about homosexuality. Nature and human anatomy testifies against the practice of homosexuality. It is against nature.

Hi Mervin,

You could not be MORE WRONG.

Each of the Sexualities - Heterosexuality, Bisexuality and Homosexuality ARE COMPLETELY NATURAL and do exist in Nature and the Natural World of which Human Beings are a part whether they agree, disagree, not accept, accept, etc. IT IS A FACT. And always have.

In order to UNDERSTAND that you MUST do some reading on the subject from all aspects. The more you learn the better you will understand.

Take Care, John H.

 

[Twigz]

That is not what I asked Johnny. Plain and simple....what purpose does homosexual intercourse serve?

 

[TrojanMan60563]

That is not what I asked Johnny. Plain and simple....what purpose does homosexual intercourse serve?

I would only assume that if you like men homosexual intercourse would serve the purpose to get off. I am sure the gay men of this world don't fuck each other for no satisfaction. A straight guy may not see the pleasure in being with another man, and that is fine.

Why does a straight man have intercourse with a woman...what purpose does that serve? EXACTLY!

Different strokes for different folks....don't hate on people for their sexuality. (religion, gender, or race for that matter)

IMO if people do good by me I could give a fuck about any of that stuff...I will treat them just as good. Didn't your mother ever tell you to "treat others the way you would like to be treated".

 

[Twigz]

Did anyone see me mention that I hatted homosexuals? I did not think so.
I strongly believe in treating other as you wish to be treated. Don't assume things that are not stated. I do not care where, or what john sticks his dick in. I was just asking a question.

Male/female sex can result in children, and the furtherment of mankind. What purpose, besides self gratification, does homosexual intercourse serve.

 

[mervin]

Different strokes for different folks....don't hate on people for their sexuality. (religion, gender, or race for that matter)

This is part of the problem. As soon as some one says homosexuality is wrong.....all of a sudden they are hatemongers, attacking homosexuals, bigots, homophobic, etc.

I think homosexuality is 100% wrong and people that are homosexual have serious issues in their lives. I think the same about alcoholics and other people....that does not mean I hate them.

And one more time, homosexuality is no more natural and normal than an elephant mating with a tiger or two male dogs falling in love with each other. The media and liberal television has slowly spoon fed the American people the idea that homosexuality is a normal lifestyle. I do not believe America is half as pro-homosexual as the media makes her out to be.

 

[John H.]

That is not what I asked Johnny. Plain and simple....what purpose does homosexual intercourse serve?

Hi Twigz,

If you really want to know and understand - but not necessarily "accept" for yourself - you (meaning anyone here) must start reading on the subject and consider all viewpoints. With an open mind, objectively.

If you are trying to say that the ONLY reason for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE is the procreation of human beings that certainly is one reason and if one Male and one Female so engage the end result COULD BE a child depending on the health of each individual involved. But it is not the only reason. This of course is not possible - as far as I have any information on and as far as anyone knows to date - NOT possible with two people of the same Gender. But being Sexually involved with someone - regardless of their Gender - does NOT mean that they must LIMIT themselves to ONLY Sexual Intercourse for the procreation of Human Beings. Sex, in ALL its aspects, has many meanings and many purposes and is certainly varied, naturally so. Comfort, companionship, love, intimacy, understanding each other especially in a physical manner, caring about each other, sharing life with each other, communication, etc.

Read to begin to understand about Sexuality: SEXUAL BEHAVIOR IN THE HUMAN MALE and SEXUAL BEHAVIOR IN THE HUMAN FEMALE, both by Dr. Alfred Kinsey and Associates; FORBIDDEN FRIENDSHIPS, by Michael Rocke; BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE, by Bruce Bagemihl. These are certainly not the only books to read however they are a good start. Continue from these and consider all viewpoints on the subject. Look at the bibliographies in any book you read and see the sources of information and look at those as well.

The more you read the better understanding you will have if done objectively without preconceived notions and prejudices. The books I mentioned above are NOT a waste of anyone's time and are all very well written. But do not stop with just these - see more - there is a lot to see and to understand.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

I would only assume that if you like men homosexual intercourse would serve the purpose to get off. I am sure the gay men of this world don't fuck each other for no satisfaction. A straight guy may not see the pleasure in being with another man, and that is fine.

Why does a straight man have intercourse with a woman...what purpose does that serve? EXACTLY!

Different strokes for different folks....don't hate on people for their sexuality. (religion, gender, or race for that matter)

IMO if people do good by me I could give a fuck about any of that stuff...I will treat them just as good. Didn't your mother ever tell you to "treat others the way you would like to be treated".

Hi Trojan,

AND, not all people who are Homosexual or BiSexual engage in Sexual intercourse. (That is Anal intercourse). There are Heterosexual people who engage in Anal intercourse and feel this experience is fine for them - but not all. Many find other avenues for intimacy and caring. As with anyone, some do and some do not - the same applies to whatever a person's Sexual Orientation may be - they each do what is "right" for them. But the variety - variation - is provided for all by Nature naturally so. It is up to each individual and each who agree to be with each other to find what is "right" and satisfying and fulfilling for them.

"Getting off" is not the only reason for being sexually involved with others either. There is much more to it. Yes there are those who ONLY have THIS aspect in mind and nothing more too.

From what I understand with regard to religion - and something that is basic with "religion" (at least Christianity) - is that when God appeared to Moses - the only time when He actually did appear to any Human Being we are told - He DID NOT WANT people worshiping Him - He wanted people to treat each other as they would want to be treated by others - at least kindly. That is supposed to be God's greatest commandment. The most important. And with regard to Sex - God and Christ - THEMSELVES - NEVER SAID ONE WORD EVER - THEMSELVES - about Heterosexuality, BiSexuality and Homosexuality being wrong in and of themselves. NEVER. Surely Christ, who was on this earth we are told for 32 years, had the time to say something but NEVER DID - NOT ONE WORD - HIMSELF. He is said to have said a lot about other subjects. Surely He did not "forget" to mention it.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Different strokes for different folks....don't hate on people for their sexuality. (religion, gender, or race for that matter)

This is part of the problem. As soon as some one says homosexuality is wrong.....all of a sudden they are hatemongers, attacking homosexuals, bigots, homophobic, etc.

I think homosexuality is 100% wrong and people that are homosexual have serious issues in their lives. I think the same about alcoholics and other people....that does not mean I hate them.

And one more time, homosexuality is no more natural and normal than an elephant mating with a tiger or two male dogs falling in love with each other. The media and liberal television has slowly spoon fed the American people the idea that homosexuality is a normal lifestyle. I do not believe America is half as pro-homosexual as the media makes her out to be.

Hi Mervin,

The hate has its origins in "religion" - that is what is taught and learned. And people's "jumping on the band-wagon" and doing - "'everybody' does it"... And people's lack of any truthful accurate knowledge about Sexuality objectively obtained. Ignorance and even stupidity (stupidity being even though a person KNOWS better they still go against what IS truthful).

Homosexuality IS natural - as is Heterosexuality and BiSexuality. Each DO exist in Nature and the natural world and always have. To say for example that Homosexuality is not natural is NOT TRUE AT ALL.

What is "normal"? I can say it is "normal" for the sun to come up every day even though we may not see it because of cloud cover... If you mean that by "normal" many people are Heterosexual that too would not be true because even with "Heterosexually identified people" there IS VARIATION. Heterosexuality, BiSexuality and Homosexuality are LABELS applied to people for "convenience" but do not reflect how people REALLY ARE because even within a certain Sexual Orientation there ARE VARIATIONS. Very few people are TOTALLY Heterosexual, BiSexual and Homosexual. Homosexual people can procreate, that is, if they are with one Man and one Woman they can procreate - bring a new life into this world - and then go back to doing as they always have sexually speaking the only difference being that for one time they engaged in sex with the opposite sex for procreation purposes. So a Homosexual person can and does have the equipment to procreate with another of the opposite sex.

You mention the media. Have you forgotten that what YOUR outlook is with regard to someone who may be Homosexual IS WHAT YOU WERE SPOON-FED?

"Religion" IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED in brainwashing its followers. BIGTIME. With regard to Sex especially very little of what is postuated by "religion" is based on FACTS AS THEY TRULY ARE.

Take Care, John H.

 

[gr81]

There is nothing natural about homosexuality. Nature and human anatomy testifies against the practice of homosexuality. It is against nature.

just to play devils advocate here, to say something is against nature is no reason to condemn it. thinkk about how manythings us humans do every single day, every hour, every minute that is "against nature" as you put it. Driving cars is against nature is it not, lifting weights to increase muscle mass is against nature definately, nature did not intend us to be muscular, watching TV, being on the internet, did nature put us here to chat with each other on a computer? Look the thought of Gay men having sex makes me want to vomit, but its someone elses decision. what teh fucc business is it of your to say its wrong. Men and women do not have sex purely to procreate btw, and by asking what purpose it serevs is foolish. Unless you have only had sex in an instance of procreation and thats it, you can't talk. With that being said, John is still creepy for starting this thread

 

[Twigz]

I can and I did. Why would that be foolish it???s a question? Sure sex in any way is going to bring pleasure, but in totality of things homosexuality serves no purpose. Males made with the key and women with the lock, for the ultimate purpose of creating new persons.

I never said that women and men only have sex to create children, and never said that it was wrong, unnatural, etc. Like I said I don't care where you, or anyone want to stick your things. That is a personal choice, and as long as you don't force it on others do what you will.

 

[Todd_]

Im with you brotheur

a hole is a hole!

 

[J'Bo]

Hi Twigz,

My purpose for saying I am Sexual is that I feel all people are, period! The labels that have been created to "attach" to individuals I feel promotes hatred, bigotry, misunderstanding, etc.

Like anything else in life each thing has a purpose(s) and meaning(s). You could even ask "what purpose do trees or insects or salt water, etc." serve. Everything in life has a purpose and a meaning. The MORE you read and the more you question about anything the better your UNDERSTANDING will be about whatever. In Sex it is VERY IMPORTANT to UNDERSTAND ALL ASPECTS of it. It is a very basic subject all human beings need to know about. What is "right" - or not - for each person should be based on a thorough knowledge of Sex in all its forms that way you can make your best decisions about whatever and have a much better UNDERSTANDING about Sex and Sexuality.

Take Care, John H.

John.

Dont get me wrong i dont dislike any person..unless they give me a reason too. But salt water and trees do play an important function in our environment and natural balance one is thrown off and we are out of balance. So come up with a better repsonse then that, i know you have it in you (from some of your comments made to me previously).

Personally people who have sex without the intention of pro-creating (hetero or homo) do not serve a function other than personal satisfaction. Simply because homosexuals cannot pro-create does not mean that they should not exist, in my opinion. It must be hard to deal with people that do not condon homosexuality however it is something that you are ALWAYS going to have to deal with because of religion. If religion condoned homosexual behaviour then there would still be ignorant people in the world to combat homosexuality.

The only thing i am prejudice against is ignorance.

Personally i think that "gay pride day" is a crock of shit though. (just to start an argument). I know that some people say that "heterosexuals get to celebrate everyday" but i dont really think we celebrate we just live and dont seperate ourselves. If everyone just saw themselves as PEOPLE; not gods, homosexuals, indians, jews, women, etc we would be much better off.

Just my two cents.

 

[Dale Mabry]

John.

Dont get me wrong i dont dislike any person..

I'm cold, I have a list, and when you're are on that list, you've got problems

 

[bio-chem]

Hi Mervin,

You could not be MORE WRONG.

Each of the Sexualities - Heterosexuality, Bisexuality and Homosexuality ARE COMPLETELY NATURAL and do exist in Nature and the Natural World of which Human Beings are a part whether they agree, disagree, not accept, accept, etc. IT IS A FACT. And always have.

In order to UNDERSTAND that you MUST do some reading on the subject from all aspects. The more you learn the better you will understand.

Take Care, John H.

just because it happens in nature does not mean that it is acceptable for humans. to think and act as such is surely a falacy propagated by ignorants who dont understand the inherint differences between humans and animals.

 

[bio-chem]

Male/female sex can result in children, and the furtherment of mankind. What purpose, besides self gratification, does homosexual intercourse serve.

i might add that the self gratification is momentary and once passed the individual is left reduced.

 

[bio-chem]

Johh H. Post Checklist:

• mention that he is gay CHECK
• randomly capitalize words CHECK
• take shot at religion OPPS!

told you he would get to the religion

 

[John H.]

OK, her goes - I HAD TO!!

I can and I did. Why would that be foolish it???s a question? Sure sex in any way is going to bring pleasure, but in totality of things homosexuality serves no purpose. Males made with the key and women with the lock, for the ultimate purpose of creating new persons.

I never said that women and men only have sex to create children, and never said that it was wrong, unnatural, etc. Like I said I don't care where you, or anyone want to stick your things. That is a personal choice, and as long as you don't force it on others do what you will.

Hi Twigz,

It's time to LAUGH!!!!

Did I ever tell you I am a LOCKSMITH? I can UNlock ANYTHING!!!

I'm sorry, I HAAAAADDD TOOOOO!!!!

Sex in any way WILL bring pleasure. Sex is NOT just for "procreation" - it IS multifaceted and multifunctional. And VARIED just as with anything else in life.

If the ONLY reason for Sex was procreation EACH MAN WOULD BE THE FATHER OF MILLIONS OF CHILDREN - HOW THE HELL WOULD THE WORLD hold all those people and - to "laugh" again - how would the Courts keep track of all that money for support and how would the Man be able to pay it and support ALL his children - and what about the wife - She WOULD BE beat the hell and DEAD from having all those children!!!!!

You speak of "forcing" - here's the thing: "religious" types FORCE their VIEWS on others ESPECIALLY when it comes to Homosexuality. God - HIMSELF - and Christ - HIMSELF - NEVER EVER SAID ONE WORD about Homosexuality being wrong in some way - THEY NEVER DID - NOT ONE TIME!!! So, how is it that Man "can say Homosexuality is wrong" when God NEVER DID and Christ NEVER DID. And Christ, we are told, was here on this earth for 32 (THIRTY-TWO) YEARS - Y E A R S - and NEVER did He say ONE WORD about it being wrong!!!

EACH individual sees life differently and IS AN INDIVIDUAL and born AS GOD INTENDED them to BE. And ARE ABSOLUTELY ENTITLED TO LIVE THEIR LIFE. And enjoy ALL ASPECTS of it.

Take Care, John H.

 

[GFR]

Hi Twigz,

It's time to LAUGH!!!!

Did I ever tell you I am a LOCKSMITH? I can UNlock ANYTHING!!!

I'm sorry, I HAAAAADDD TOOOOO!!!!

Sex in any way WILL bring pleasure. Sex is NOT just for "procreation" - it IS multifaceted and multifunctional. And VARIED just as with anything else in life.

If the ONLY reason for Sex was procreation EACH MAN WOULD BE THE FATHER OF MILLIONS OF CHILDREN - HOW THE HELL WOULD THE WORLD hold all those people and - to "laugh" again - how would the Courts keep track of all that money for support and how would the Man be able to pay it and support ALL his children - and what about the wife - She WOULD BE beat the hell and DEAD from having all those children!!!!!

You speak of "forcing" - here's the thing: "religious" types FORCE their VIEWS on others ESPECIALLY when it comes to Homosexuality. God - HIMSELF - and Christ - HIMSELF - NEVER EVER SAID ONE WORD about Homosexuality being wrong in some way - THEY NEVER DID - NOT ONE TIME!!! So, how is it that Man "can say Homosexuality is wrong" when God NEVER DID and Christ NEVER DID. And Christ, we are told, was here on this earth for 32 (THIRTY-TWO) YEARS - Y E A R S - and NEVER did He say ONE WORD about it being wrong!!!

EACH individual sees life differently and IS AN INDIVIDUAL and born AS GOD INTENDED them to BE. And ARE ABSOLUTELY ENTITLED TO LIVE THEIR LIFE. And enjoy ALL ASPECTS of it.

Take Care, John H.

Jesus did say that man should not lay with man. But I don't believe in God so I could give a sh-t what that person said. I have gay friends and straight friends, and I don't care what any of them are doing with there sex life.

 

[John H.]

John.

Dont get me wrong i dont dislike any person..unless they give me a reason too. But salt water and trees do play an important function in our environment and natural balance one is thrown off and we are out of balance. So come up with a better repsonse then that, i know you have it in you (from some of your comments made to me previously).

Personally people who have sex without the intention of pro-creating (hetero or homo) do not serve a function other than personal satisfaction. Simply because homosexuals cannot pro-create does not mean that they should not exist, in my opinion. It must be hard to deal with people that do not condon homosexuality however it is something that you are ALWAYS going to have to deal with because of religion. If religion condoned homosexual behaviour then there would still be ignorant people in the world to combat homosexuality.

The only thing i am prejudice against is ignorance.

Personally i think that "gay pride day" is a crock of shit though. (just to start an argument). I know that some people say that "heterosexuals get to celebrate everyday" but i dont really think we celebrate we just live and dont seperate ourselves. If everyone just saw themselves as PEOPLE; not gods, homosexuals, indians, jews, women, etc we would be much better off.

Just my two cents.

Hi J'Bo,

I was using the salt water, etc. thing as an example and to be short about the answer because there ARE THOSE who DO NOT LIKE salt water, etc. AND probably "think" there is no reason for it too. I was trying to simplify the answer.

My reason for starting this thread is because someone else started one about being Gay. I HATE LABELING PEOPLE. To me a LABEL ONLY PROMOTES HATRED AND BIGOTRY. NOT UNDERSTANDING of a subject even though you may or may not agree with it or accept it (you meaning anyone here)...

"Personal satisfaction" and "personal gratification" IS a "function" too - ANOTHER "function". Nuts on nut trees have a "function" - many would say to "procreate" but NOT ALL NUTS become a tree and each tree can have THOUSANDS of nuts. What would happen if each nut on each nut tree became a tree? While you or I may not readily understand the function of nuts from a tree there are more reasons and purposes than just making other trees....

Homosexual people (the labeling of a person here) CAN PROCREATE as long as when they are doing that they are with one person who is of the opposite Sex. It happens all the time. TWO HOMOSEXUAL people - that is TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE MALE for example - CAN NOT - at least as far as anyone knows to date - cause the birth of another Human Being WHILE HAVING SEX WITH EACH OTHER. It takes one Male and One Female and that is no guarantee a child will be born either. It depends on the health of both individuals. And the child as a result of that intercourse...

I am against STUPIDITY. People can be ignorant and for good reason. But STUPIDITY is not "excusable" - a person can make a "stupid mistake" but BEING STUPID about a subject is INTOLERABLE.

The Gay Pride thing I understand - I do not "participate" in that myself though. These individuals are trying to be "visible" - that is, trying to SHOW their NUMBERS - that THERE ARE A LOT - and their need and desire to LIVE LIFE just as anyone else who is not BiSexual or Homosexual CAN without any interference or prejudice or bigotry... If your basic rights were not "allowed" or you (meaning anyone) were not "permitted" to do the things MANY can without interference, etc. you too would be upset and WANT to voice that.

I AGREE with you - each person is entitled to LIVE life. We are ALL PEOPLE - Human Beings - each with their individual likes and dislikes and needs and desires.... I HATE LABELING people. Or being labeled.

Human Beings ARE SEXUAL - I AM SEXUAL. Period.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

I'm cold, I have a list, and when you're are on that list, you've got problems

Hi Dale,

What is that supposed to mean?

You and I can disagree on whatever - what is it you are trying to say?

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

just because it happens in nature does not mean that it is acceptable for humans. to think and act as such is surely a falacy propagated by ignorants who dont understand the inherint differences between humans and animals.

Bio:

"Acceptable for humans"? WHO makes that determination? YOU? The Pope? Your "neighbor" who may be a garbage collector? WHO give you (meaning anyone here) that "authority"?

You can NOT change what IS. And what IS in Nature and the Natural World AS INTENDED. Human Beings ARE a part of Nature and the Natural World.

I am well aware of the difference between Humans and Animals - and I can tell you ANIMALS treat each other MUCH BETTER that Humans DO.

John H.

 

[John H.]

i might add that the self gratification is momentary and once passed the individual is left reduced.

Bio:

For someone who is going to college to learn about Chemistry and Biology I really have to wonder...

Gratification CAN BE momentary BUT IT ALSO CAN BE LONG LASTING AND MEANINGFUL. And how is it you think "once passed the individual is left reduced"? When I am with someone I am TRULY HAPPY and REMEMBER LONG AFTER and CARE about others LONG AFTER. How am I (meaning anyone here) "reduced"?

John H.