bio-chem said:told you he would get to the religion
Bio:
IF you will actually READ what I post and UNDERSTAND IT you will see that I am responding to what someone else said. And brought up.
John H.
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bio-chem said:told you he would get to the religion
ForemanRules said:Jesus did say that man should not lay with man. But I don't believe in God so I could give a sh-t what that person said. I have gay friends and straight friends, and I don't care what any of them are doing with there sex life.
really? so by your estimation when a male lion kills the offspring of a rival so the lioness will get pregnant with his child instead a lot faster, that should be ok for humans as well? at least by your estimation right? it is not an individual that must decide, but society must decide what is acceptable regardless of it happening in the animal kingdom. and idealy it would be society as a whole choosing to follow the guidlines GOD has set forth.John H. said:Bio:
"Acceptable for humans"? WHO makes that determination? YOU? The Pope? Your "neighbor" who may be a garbage collector? WHO give you (meaning anyone here) that "authority"?
You can NOT change what IS. And what IS in Nature and the Natural World AS INTENDED. Human Beings ARE a part of Nature and the Natural World.
I am well aware of the difference between Humans and Animals - and I can tell you ANIMALS treat each other MUCH BETTER that Humans DO.
John H.
John H. said:Hi Foreman,
You are quoting the words of MAN - NOT Jesus. Jesus HIMSELF NEVER SAID and neither did God - EVER.
I feel that what two people agree to do or not is entirely up to them and no one elses business AS LONG AS EACH PERSON IS OF AGE AND ABILITY OF CONSENT AND GIVE THAT CONSENT FREELY.
Take Care, John H.
maybe if you read what you were writing you would understand what you write is assinine. i never said you were the one to bring it up i just said you would get to it. reread yourselfJohn H. said:Bio:
IF you will actually READ what I post and UNDERSTAND IT you will see that I am responding to what someone else said. And brought up.
John H.
mervin said:Ps 14:1 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
Deut 22:5 A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.
1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Rom 1:26-27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
ForemanRules said:But of course the Bible is only a work of fiction.
ForemanRules said:In Leviticus 18; 22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination.
Like I said I do not believe in God, but if you do believe the bible this quote is in it.
bio-chem said:really? so by your estimation when a male lion kills the offspring of a rival so the lioness will get pregnant with his child instead a lot faster, that should be ok for humans as well? at least by your estimation right? it is not an individual that must decide, but society must decide what is acceptable regardless of it happening in the animal kingdom. and idealy it would be society as a whole choosing to follow the guidlines GOD has set forth.
bio-chem said:maybe if you read what you were writing you would understand what you write is assinine. i never said you were the one to bring it up i just said you would get to it. reread yourself
mervin said:Sex is intended for pleasure also. There is no doubt about that. But sex was created to be shared between 1 man and 1 women within the bounds of marriage. As I already stated, even the anatomy of the human body shows what is normal and what is not. Homosexual sex in not normal human behavior.
By the way, the bible ( God and Jesus ) has a lot to say about the subject of homosexuality.
Please let me in on which animals are gay?
John H. ...do you even lift weights? Are you a real person or are you an Internet character trying to always keep a homosexual debate going.
your limited understanding is extremely flawed. do some RESEARCH with that OPEN MIND you are so famous for before you go spouting off your incorrect understanding and show off your undeniable ignorance.John H. said:Hi Foreman,
Like I said, you are quoting MAN - NOT GOD - NOT CHRIST. IN THEIR OWN WORDS - THEM SPEAKING FOR THEMSELVES IN THEIR WORDS which is NOT REFLECTED here as you quote.
The Bible was written BY MEN - OVER 40 - and over a long period of time. The Bible did not even exist until long after the death of Christ. The New Testament was not even written until about 200 or so years AFTER the death of Christ - who remembers ACCURATELY anything said even the DAY BEFORE?
The Old Testament is nothing more than the old Jewish law books.
The Bible is a collection of literature, short stories, poems, essays, prose, probably even fiction, etc. WRITTEN BY MEN. Human Beings.
Take Care, John H.
mervin said:Ps 14:1 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
Deut 22:5 A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.
1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Rom 1:26-27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
and your an authority on........? absolutely nothing. someone thinks my education is worthwhile because i just got offered a really good paying job to come work for them after i graduate.John H. said:Bio:
I know you said you were going to college.
Seriously:
You are wasting the time of your Professors - and yours. Quit. You do not have the ability to LEARN. I think you would be more successful as a machine that punches out parts by the millions - you are successful ONLY at being programmed and at having tunnel vision and being NON-objective and bigoted.
John H.
J'Bo said:John.
You are more intelligent than i thought. My first impression of you wasnt positive but your alright in my books. All the best to you and your quest to make people understand.
Jenny.
J'Bo said:By the way...I am sexual too![]()
bio-chem said:your limited understanding is extremely flawed. do some RESEARCH with that OPEN MIND you are so famous for before you go spouting off your incorrect understanding and show off your undeniable ignorance.
damn john isnt that an extremely negative and pesimistic view of the world and the people who inhabit it? im sorry that you have had such a troubled life that it has tainted the way you view your fellow man.John H. said:Hi Jenny,
Most people lack UNDERSTANDING much of anything.
Take Care, John H.
bio-chem said:and your an authority on........? absolutely nothing. someone thinks my education is worthwhile because i just got offered a really good paying job to come work for them after i graduate.
of course you do. you have so completly indoctrinated yourself in your own misunderstandings that your make believe house would come crashing down around you if you were to acknowlege the truth that is standing before your eyes.John H. said:I stand completey by what I have said. It IS TRUE AND ACCURATE.
bio-chem said:damn john isnt that an extremely negative and pesimistic view of the world and the people who inhabit it? im sorry that you have had such a troubled life that it has tainted the way you view your fellow man.
for once i agree. time will tell john. time will tellJohn H. said:Bio:
The proof will be in what you actually accomplish and how. And your contributions to life.
Many people are in good paying jobs and do absolutely nothing - especially constructive and beneficial. They just exist and suck off life. And bullshit others.
John H.
John H. said:Hi Foreman,
Like I said, you are quoting MAN - NOT GOD - NOT CHRIST. IN THEIR OWN WORDS - THEM SPEAKING FOR THEMSELVES IN THEIR WORDS which is NOT REFLECTED here as you quote.
The Bible was written BY MEN - OVER 40 - and over a long period of time. The Bible did not even exist until long after the death of Christ. The New Testament was not even written until about 200 or so years AFTER the death of Christ - who remembers ACCURATELY anything said even the DAY BEFORE?
The Old Testament is nothing more than the old Jewish law books.
The Bible is a collection of literature, short stories, poems, essays, prose, probably even fiction, etc. WRITTEN BY MEN. Human Beings.
Take Care, John H.