bio-chem said:
Bio:
IF you will actually READ what I post and UNDERSTAND IT you will see that I am responding to what someone else said. And brought up.
John H.
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Bio:
IF you will actually READ what I post and UNDERSTAND IT you will see that I am responding to what someone else said. And brought up.
John H.
ForemanRules said:
Hi Foreman,
You are quoting the words of MAN - NOT Jesus. Jesus HIMSELF NEVER SAID and neither did God - EVER.
I feel that what two people agree to do or not is entirely up to them and no one elses business AS LONG AS EACH PERSON IS OF AGE AND ABILITY OF CONSENT AND GIVE THAT CONSENT FREELY.
Take Care, John H.
really? so by your estimation when a male lion kills the offspring of a rival so the lioness will get pregnant with his child instead a lot faster, that should be ok for humans as well? at least by your estimation right? it is not an individual that must decide, but society must decide what is acceptable regardless of it happening in the animal kingdom. and idealy it would be society as a whole choosing to follow the guidlines GOD has set forth.John H. said:
maybe if you read what you were writing you would understand what you write is assinine. i never said you were the one to bring it up i just said you would get to it. reread yourselfJohn H. said:
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Sex is intended for pleasure also. There is no doubt about that. But sex was created to be shared between 1 man and 1 women within the bounds of marriage. As I already stated, even the anatomy of the human body shows what is normal and what is not. Homosexual sex in not normal human behavior.
By the way, the bible ( God and Jesus ) has a lot to say about the subject of homosexuality.
Please let me in on which animals are gay?
John H. ...do you even lift weights? Are you a real person or are you an Internet character trying to always keep a homosexual debate going.
By the way, the bible ( God and Jesus ) has a lot to say about the subject of homosexuality.
Please let me in on which animals are gay?
John H. ...do you even lift weights? Are you a real person or are you an Internet character trying to always keep a homosexual debate going.
Ps 14:1 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
Deut 22:5 A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.
1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Rom 1:26-27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
Deut 22:5 A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.
1 Cor 6:9-11 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Rom 1:26-27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
ForemanRules said:
Hi Foreman,
Like I said, you are quoting MAN - NOT GOD - NOT CHRIST. IN THEIR OWN WORDS - THEM SPEAKING FOR THEMSELVES IN THEIR WORDS which is NOT REFLECTED here as you quote.
The Bible was written BY MEN - OVER 40 - and over a long period of time. The Bible did not even exist until long after the death of Christ. The New Testament was not even written until about 200 or so years AFTER the death of Christ - who remembers ACCURATELY anything said even the DAY BEFORE?
The Old Testament is nothing more than the old Jewish law books.
The Bible is a collection of literature, short stories, poems, essays, prose, probably even fiction, etc. WRITTEN BY MEN. Human Beings.
Take Care, John H.
bio-chem said:
Bio:
I know you said you were going to college.
Seriously:
You are wasting the time of your Professors - and yours. Quit. You do not have the ability to LEARN. I think you would be more successful as a machine that punches out parts by the millions - you are successful ONLY at being programmed and at having tunnel vision and being NON-objective and bigoted.
John H.
bio-chem said:
Bio:
Quit. You have no ability. Become a machine and punch out millions of parts - you will be happy doing the same thing day in and day out and will not have to THINK.
John H.
mervin said:
Hi Mervin,
Homosexual Sex is just as "normal" as Heterosexual Sex and BiSexual Sex. Each is a part of the variety of life as with anything else. Variety that exists in ALL things in life INCLUDING Sex.
NO, the Bible is the words of MAN - over 40 - and written over a long period of time. BY MEN. It is a collection of literature - essays, poems, prose, fiction, etc. And is ONE book of ONE "religion" - RELIGION IS MAN MADE. God - HIMSELF - and Christ - HIMSELF - NEVER SAID ONE WORD EVER - PERIOD. You can NOT change what IS FACT. They NEVER - THEMESELVES - DID. EVER.
As for animals: read: BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE, by Bruce Bagemihl (St. Martin's Press) - about 800 pages of facts with regard to Homosexuality in animals.
Marriage IS man-made. Study the history of it.
Do I lift weights? YES!! ABSOLUTELY!!! And I STAY WITH IT!!! It is the KEY to the life of any Man who TRULY WANTS TO LIVE LIFE as intended!!!
As long as "religion" and "religious people" keep shoving their aggendas down the throats of others as THEY DO I will respond with the OTHER sides of the picture WITH FACTS AS THEY ARE IN LIFE - NOT FICTION. "Religion" is the BUSINESS - they DO collect money and if possible, property. And they brainwash people.
Remember when you criticize me, I have NO USE for "religion" which is MAN- MADE. I believe in a "Higher Power", God, "Great Siprit", Whoever you wish to term Him. To me there is a TREMENDOUS VOID between God and "religion".
Take Care, John H.
your limited understanding is extremely flawed. do some RESEARCH with that OPEN MIND you are so famous for before you go spouting off your incorrect understanding and show off your undeniable ignorance.John H. said:
mervin said:
Hi Mervin,
Thanks, for the words OF MEN. These are NOT the words of God. He is NOT the author of these statements. The Bible really is a POLITICAL book. If you look at it closely you will see that.
Look at the area where the Bible has its origins. Study closely what happened and happens in this area of the world.
I have no problem with God - I DO WITH "religion". It is nothing more than politics.
Take Care, John H.
and your an authority on........? absolutely nothing. someone thinks my education is worthwhile because i just got offered a really good paying job to come work for them after i graduate.John H. said:
J'Bo said:
Hi Jenny,
Thanks.
Most people just "accept" what they are TOLD and never check out anything for its accuracy, validity, truthfulness, etc. THEMSELVES. Most people are just followers - THEY put themselves in that position. Human Beings were born to be individuals they are but most abdicate that because it's "easier".
Many seem to like to be brainwashed too. I think it comes from people's wanting DESPERATELY to be "accepted" by others so most just follow or they would feel "left out"... and alone. "Religion" and politics prey on this fact.
Most people lack UNDERSTANDING much of anything.
Take Care, John H.
J'Bo said:By the way...I am sexual too
Hi Jenny,
How do you like Australia?
Take Care, John H.
bio-chem said:
I stand completey by what I have said. It IS TRUE AND ACCURATE.
damn john isnt that an extremely negative and pesimistic view of the world and the people who inhabit it? im sorry that you have had such a troubled life that it has tainted the way you view your fellow man.John H. said:
bio-chem said:
Bio:
The proof will be in what you actually accomplish and how. And your contributions to life.
Many people are in good paying jobs and do absolutely nothing - especially constructive and beneficial. They just exist and suck off life. And bullshit others.
John H.
of course you do. you have so completly indoctrinated yourself in your own misunderstandings that your make believe house would come crashing down around you if you were to acknowlege the truth that is standing before your eyes.John H. said:
by the way john, if it happens in nature does that mean it is acceptable behaivior for humans?
bio-chem said:
Bio:
The evidence of what I have said is all around you. LOOK and SEE for yourself.
Yes, there are GOOD people too.
My life is not "troubled" at all nor "tainted" as you would like to believe. Perhaps that is why you are so upset.
I am VERY HAPPY - perhaps that is why you are so upset.
John H.
John H...I have not attacked you one time. Just because i believe you are 100% wrong and living in a world of denial, that does not mean I am attacking you. It seems that you have a " everyone's out to get me " complex. A human being can believe anything is right and keep searching around until they find a " study " that supports their opinion. If I say that drug abuse is wrong, does that mean I am a hate monger, attacking drug addicts and preaching hate.
What the homosexual community does is in essence, attack anyone that says homosexuality is wrong by calling them homophobic, intolerant, propagating hate, etc.
Just because church going people say that homosexuality is wrong.....all of a sudden they are preaching and teaching hate? If someone says that adultery is wrong and has a negative effect on society and the family, are the preaching and teaching hate? If someone says that stealing is wrong, is that attacking the midnight burglar? I come from a religious background and have not ever heard a church preach hate toward homosexuals. Yes, there are some freaks like the " preacher " that goes around carrying signs that say " God hates fags", but that is an extreme. Just because you have standards and principles in your life and do not agree with something does not mean you hate.
John H, I know many church people that would help you, feed you, be your friend, but not for one second agree with or condone your lifestyle. Is that hate? I don't think so. I know people that have come out of the homosexual lifestyle that were adamant homosexuals and activists and saying the same things you are saying. But in the end, they said it was all an effort to try and make themselves believe that homosexuality was a normal lifestyle. And the truth was that they were hurting on the inside, full of problems and pains and trying to make themselves believe a lie.
I do not believe that anyone is born homosexual. I tend to agree with Little Richie, he said no one is born gay, it's contagious and he caught it when at 10 when his uncle molested him. Probably 99% of all gay people experienced sexual abuse by the person of the same sex in their childhood, had an abusive Father or a dominated, rule the roost mama.
I really get tired of people of traditional standards and principle being attacked as homophobic, hatemongers and intolerant because people are insecure and trying to make themselves believe a lie.
What the homosexual community does is in essence, attack anyone that says homosexuality is wrong by calling them homophobic, intolerant, propagating hate, etc.
Just because church going people say that homosexuality is wrong.....all of a sudden they are preaching and teaching hate? If someone says that adultery is wrong and has a negative effect on society and the family, are the preaching and teaching hate? If someone says that stealing is wrong, is that attacking the midnight burglar? I come from a religious background and have not ever heard a church preach hate toward homosexuals. Yes, there are some freaks like the " preacher " that goes around carrying signs that say " God hates fags", but that is an extreme. Just because you have standards and principles in your life and do not agree with something does not mean you hate.
John H, I know many church people that would help you, feed you, be your friend, but not for one second agree with or condone your lifestyle. Is that hate? I don't think so. I know people that have come out of the homosexual lifestyle that were adamant homosexuals and activists and saying the same things you are saying. But in the end, they said it was all an effort to try and make themselves believe that homosexuality was a normal lifestyle. And the truth was that they were hurting on the inside, full of problems and pains and trying to make themselves believe a lie.
I do not believe that anyone is born homosexual. I tend to agree with Little Richie, he said no one is born gay, it's contagious and he caught it when at 10 when his uncle molested him. Probably 99% of all gay people experienced sexual abuse by the person of the same sex in their childhood, had an abusive Father or a dominated, rule the roost mama.
I really get tired of people of traditional standards and principle being attacked as homophobic, hatemongers and intolerant because people are insecure and trying to make themselves believe a lie.
