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Is 400 the new 300?

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MDR said:
Really funny that everyone seems to be calling it a military press. Military press is standing. Pushing the weight overhead with no leg assistance. In the video, the lifter is performing a seated overhead press. The two lifts are far from equal. Military presses are far more difficult.
End of rant.
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Good point. Still a big lift nontheless.
 
rippedgolfer said:
When I started lifting in 2001, 300 was the benchmark for flat bench. Seems these days everyone benches 400+ lbs. I'm not sure if it's just a lot of people exagerating their bench press, or that sports training and nutrition have come a long way in the past ten years. Probably a combination of both. Please don't take this thread the wrong way. I'm not calling anyone a liar here or accusing people of lying about their bench press. I am just curious as to why people can lift so much more now as opposed to ten years ago.

I've been lifting for almost ten years (will be ten years in April). I've been a member of six gyms and seen many, many massive men lift extremely heavy weight but only a handful of times have I seen someone bench 400 lbs. I can probably count the number of times on one hand. So what are your opinions on this? Is 400 really the new 300, or are people exagerating, or are supplements, training, and overall knowledge of weight lifting advanced that far in ten years that the new standard for bench pressing increased by a 100 lbs?

Thanks for the responses and opinions. All feedback is welcome.
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There were very few people on my college team that could not meet the 300lb bench mark(Kickers, Punters, some DB's). Most of the lineman could easily eclipse 400lbs.
 
GMO said:
There were very few people on my college team that could not meet the 300lb bench mark(Kickers, Punters, some DB's). Most of the lineman could easily eclipse 400lbs.
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That's very true. But, if you compare the average gym goers at a normal gym or university gym to ANY college football team the numbers don't even compare. Like, for a football player a 300-400 bench is what's expected but for a non-athlete I think is very good.
 
I just broke 300 for the first time since I was 19. Fuck yea!!

Hell :shooter:
 
I think it's safe to say 400lbs is the new 300lbs. 300 is common in my opinion.
 
I dropped the barbell on my chest last week trying to join the 300 club. Sucks as I think I could have done it (I did 285 warming up). This is at a Marine Corps gym, and there are probably 100 guys up on the wall with a 300 lift. There are maybe 50 with a 400 lb lift, and 10 or so with 500 or 600.

In my normal gym in Thailand, there is only one guy there who can lift more than 300, but he is really over 400.
 
I guess I frequent the wrong gyms! The highest I've seen so far was around 345 and the guy was HUUUUUUGE. Also, everyone stopped and stared at him for about 10 minutes before, during, and after his lifts.
 
I think it depends on the area you train. If you train in a gym more suited towards performance training you'll see a lot more 400lb benchers and possibly up. The most I've seen at any gym I've ever lifted at was 475 for 1 rep (spotted him) and I've seen someone do 5 reps with 465 in a power gym raw. The most I've seen someone do in a shirt is I believe around 560. I've done 540 in a shirt and raw I've done 465. I've since lost quite a bit of weight and I've finally gotten my bench to just over 405. I did 405 last week. I've have been stuck in the 4's for 10 years now though. I hit 300 on October 31st 2001 (just turned 16 a few months prior) I hit 315 November 19th 2001. I hit 365 sometime in 2002 and I did 405 April 21st 2003 at age 17 just months before my 18th birthday. I used to have the date written down for 455 and 465 (both on same day) but I don't recall. I do remember I was 23 and too heavy. I'm now 27 and I weigh considerably less and I'm benching in the low 4's but not training/eating the same either. But to answer your question more specifically I think people have a better understanding of how to specifically train for strength and it's more conceivable. Before the first person ran the 4 minute mile it was a big mile stone and no one could seem to break it. When the first person did then shortly after many did. I personally think someone who is genetically strong can achieve a 400lb bench with some hard work and dedication. I think to bench 500 though would take a lifetime of dedication hard work and good nutrition for anyone period.
 
i dunno man... i can hit 315 for like 2-3 on a good day... there very few people at my gym benching over 250... i really hope to hit 400 and im 210 right now at 5'9 not sure on body fat but i really would like to bench 405 someday... thats about as high as i want honestly just to say i did it!
 
There is a guy at my gym who has never touched gear and benches an even 500 for one good rep, 315 for 21 reps and 225 for 43 reps. He's in his late 20s and has been lifting for 12 years. Mind you he's 6'3 and 280 lbs.
 
I think the 400 is the non geared 300 lol.

A gym buddy asked me to spot him. I had no clue the bastard could bench 405 raw! No bullshit either. Perfect flat back bodybuilder style bench press not the powerlifter crazy arched back with half the bar travel. He's like 220 lbs. put it up 2 times. he was adamant I not touch the bar unless he told me to lol.

I haven't had the "supps" chat with him yet.....be shocked it he was natty.
 
I got my 300 in last year, and it was actually pretty easy. I thought about moving up and training for 400, but I am 54, 185 lbs, with sports and war injuries, and I am not sure my joints will take up the strain long-term. My VA doctor, at least, told me to back down a bit.

So now I am pretty much maxing out at 225, doing only 20 reps as my max (then dropping to about 16 or 17, then about 15, then 12, and my last set is usually around 10.) I alternate this on different days with 4 sets of max rep lift to failure with my bodyweight or with 135, and one day with very slow negatives lift to failure with 135. So you can see, I am not really knocking out the huge lifts.

I still have twinges of trying to train for 400, and my ego wants to, but my brain is telling me to go it safe.
 
Less than 100 years ago the world record for bench press was sitting at 360 lbs. It would stay to be the record until the 1950's when someone broke 400 lbs. just 50 years later the record is at well over 1000 lbs.
 
300 Is a very strong bench where I lift and only seen a few 400 +.

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In a typical gym, not catered to bodybuilders or power lifters, then a 300+ bench is fairly rare from what I have seen.

However when you get to the gyms more catered to hardcore lifters (private gyms, World Gym, Westside barbell type gyms tucked away all over) then 400+ bench presses are pretty normal
 
to answer the OP's question.. quite simply NO, 400 is not the new 300.. that is all.
 
I've never trained in a gym where there weren't 400+ benchers... but, I was always more into powerlifting than bodybuilding.
 
Kai Greene - I'll Never be A Weightlifter. - YouTube


i love power lifting and these strong cunts who lift immense weight but... bodybuilding is not all about how much you can lift :)



that all beeing said kai can lift some heavy ass weight when it comes to it but there lots of people who can lift more and dont even look 20% at him!
 
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i know this post is old just wanted to brag a little i got 400 ilbs easy no help perfect form.most ever for me been tranning off and on for 20 years i am on right now.hahaha
 
This is not the 1930's. Lifting heavy weight is meaningless because so many can do it.
 
America has been pussified and Bieberfied. I think 200 is the new 300. No one trains with intensity. Everyone is fat. Everyone wants to chit chat or look around at everyone else. Then they wonder why they all look the same, month after month, and never get stronger.
 
cschaaf said:
I strongly disagree, strength is always impressive
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Strength is boring. Speed and agility is more fasinating.

Why do you think gymnasts + track runners get so much more
love and attention at Olympic Games than the weightlifters?
 
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