Orals at back end of cycle

[Tuco]

After last shot of test e the rule is generally wait about two weeks before starting pct. If you're adding an oral at the back end of a cycle would you end it with the last day of test e or run it through those two weeks the test e is clearing the system?

 

[scharfy]

Bump

Love to hear what some of the vets say bout this...

 

[Tuco]

I've heard both, run through the last two weeks the test is clearing your system to also stop running the oral with the last shot of the test e.

 

[MuscleGauge1]

hmmm this sounds kind of sketch. Where did you discover this "rule"?

 

[~RaZr~]

What's the oral your considering?

 

[Tuco]

Probably winny or epistane.

 

[Vibrant]

I like an oral during the two weeks that the esters are clearing. thats what I did during a cycle I just finished. I did sdmz.

 

[Tuco]

hmmm this sounds kind of sketch. Where did you discover this "rule"?

When running a long ester it's well known to wait 2 weeks after last shot to start pct, this isn't the case if you're running prop or something of that nature.

 

[KUVinny]

Orals have a very short half life and have no impact on the clearing rate of esterified testosterone so i see no reason you can not run them right up until the day before you plan to start pct.

 

[Glycomann]

On a 12 week cycle I would add it in starting at the beginning of week 9.. so 9, 10, 11, 12 and then stop it in the last week a couple days after the last injection. It will help you through the 8 week plateau.

 

[rage racing]

I like an oral during the two weeks that the esters are clearing. thats what I did during a cycle I just finished. I did sdmz.

this is exactly what I am doing too.

 

[Standard Donkey]

12 week test E cycle

weeks 1-4
tbol/dbol/whatever 50-whatever

weeks 1-12 Test E 500-whatever

weeks 10-14
tbol/winstrol/whatever 50-whatever


then begin pct, perfectly fine to bridge to pct with orals

 

[Roaddkingg]

I like doing orals or short esters front and rear.
If I was to do a oral in the tail end I'd run it up to about two days before I planned to start PCT.
As was stated this would give you that extra bump on the tail end and say for instance you were doing d-bol that has a half life of 4-6 hours so it all would have easily been cleared to begin PCT.
I will be doing a cycle very similiar to that soon myself.
Front gives you the fast start and in the rear keeps you going while esters clear.

 

[Tuco]

12 week test E cycle

weeks 1-4
tbol/dbol/whatever 50-whatever

weeks 1-12 Test E 500-whatever

weeks 10-14
tbol/winstrol/whatever 50-whatever


then begin pct, perfectly fine to bridge to pct with orals

 

[Tuco]

Good feedback, after this cycle I feel I'm done with orals all together though.

I think there are injectables that can deliver the results desired from any oral with out the toxicity. And I love pinning

 

[Standard Donkey]

Good feedback, after this cycle I feel I'm done with orals all together though.

I think there are injectables that can deliver the results desired from any oral with out the toxicity. And I love pinning

toxicity is greatly exaggerated. I only use winstrol and drol during cutting because they help spare muscle as those caloric deficits deepen

 

[Roaddkingg]

Very true pitbull.
We have prop, suspension, NPP, TNE and others.

 

[Dath]

12 week test E cycle

weeks 1-4
tbol/dbol/whatever 50-whatever

weeks 1-12 Test E 500-whatever

weeks 10-14
tbol/winstrol/whatever 50-whatever


then begin pct, perfectly fine to bridge to pct with orals

^^^^I like this here....and since you don't mind pinning consider test P for your first 3-4 wks as this would be a nice kick out of the gates as well.

 

[GMO]

After last shot of test e the rule is generally wait about two weeks before starting pct. If you're adding an oral at the back end of a cycle would you end it with the last day of test e or run it through those two weeks the test e is clearing the system?

I ALWAYS do...

If a bulk, I'll use dbol. If a cut, I'll use Beastdrol.

 

[Chrisotpherm]

12 week test E cycle

weeks 1-4
tbol/dbol/whatever 50-whatever

weeks 1-12 Test E 500-whatever

weeks 10-14
tbol/winstrol/whatever 50-whatever


then begin pct, perfectly fine to bridge to pct with orals

This is what im doing. Starting off with dbol kick start of a test e cycle for 12wks, on 10-14 going off with tbol or superdrol by IML.

 

[stingray]

Good back end load is prop with the tbols at 50-60mg ed with the longer ester clears.