Pirates

[John H.]

john try and keep your answers shorter, i get bored reading your posts otherwise

Bio,

I do try. But then I have to be careful with you - I do not want you thinking I am "keeping them short - and sweet", now do I? And "for you"...

Now as for you "getting bored" - "stiff"?

I couldn't resist!!!!

John H.

 

[bio-chem]

john dont flirt with me. your wasting your time. i dont swing that way

 

[John H.]

john dont flirt with me. your wasting your time. i dont swing that way

Bio,

Believe me I certainly had no preconceived notions at all.

I was just joking with you but forgot religious zealots can not even joke around. And you are right, I would be wasting my time. And I do not "swing" "religious zealot" ways either. Trust me, you would be completely SAFE!!!

John H.

 

[Pepper]

Have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

Surely you have.

 

[bio-chem]

Bio,

Believe me I certainly had no preconceived notions at all.

I was just joking with you but forgot religious zealots can not even joke around. And you are right, I would be wasting my time. And I do not "swing" "religious zealot" ways either. Trust me, you would be completely SAFE!!!

John H.

its not my safety you should worry about

 

[maniclion]

John quit questioning your masculinity, it's o.k to be gay or bi and still be a macho man look at Alexander the Great, you have to be a bad mofo to conquer all the known world yet he enjoyed his male lover(s).

 

[bio-chem]

he will never stop. he is trying to convince himself it is ok

 

[John H.]

John quit questioning your masculinity, it's o.k to be gay or bi and still be a macho man look at Alexander the Great, you have to be a bad mofo to conquer all the known world yet he enjoyed his male lover(s).

Hi Maniclion,

I am not questiong me at all. It is others that are. Or so it seems. I have NO problem with my Sexuality AS BORN and AS A GIFT FROM GOD just as with any other Gift we receive naturally.

As for Alex, if he looked at all like Brad Pitt I guess he would have had a lot of Male lovers.

A side note: Brad Pitt is completely NUTS if he doesn't CONTINUE working out - he has great protential and the work he did for the Alexander the Great Film showed that. He should KEEP GOING. Also, a MAN is ALWAYS A MAN no matter who he has relationships and/or friendships with. Caring honestly about others - Male and Female - is never wrong.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

he will never stop. he is trying to convince himself it is ok

Bio,

You sure ARE a "religious zealot" in the truest sense of the word and meaning. You never stop your BULL.

I have NO problem with my Sexuality AS BORN. Maybe it is YOU that is STILL questioning yours. Why else would you put up so big a front and want others to "think you are..." And "so pure".

You are so pent-up from your self-imposed "abstinance" that you are mentally and physically a wreck. It IS NOT something NATURE intends for you. Have someone WORK on you and your body UNCONTROLABLY and you will be much relieved - and happy.

Then maybe you WILL SEE the TRUE GOD.

John H.

 

[gococksDJS]

Bio,

You sure ARE a "religious zealot" in the truest sense of the word and meaning. You never stop your BULL.

I have NO problem with my Sexuality AS BORN. Maybe it is YOU that is STILL questioning yours. Why else would you put up so big a front and want others to "think you are..." And "so pure".

You are so pent-up from your self-imposed "abstinance" that you are mentally and physically a wreck. It IS NOT something NATURE intends for you. Have someone WORK on you and your body UNCONTROLABLY and you will be much relieved - and happy.

Then maybe you WILL SEE the TRUE GOD.

John H.

John H, i think you never stop your bull because you know that God is going to cast you into the firey pits of hell for all eternity when you die and your trying to get all of us to come with you.

 

[John H.]

John H, i think you never stop your bull because you know that God is going to cast you into the firey pits of hell for all eternity when you die and your trying to get all of us to come with you.

Gococks,

No God will not. I KNOW that FOR SURE. I know you'd like to "believe" that based on what you "learned" or "were taught".

I never use others and they do not use me. Especially Sexually. To me Sex is sacred and those you have Sex with the very same. Men and/or Women. And they KNOW that too about me. I do not "take lightly" feelings a person has for each other as long as they are each of age and ability of consent and give that consent freely. No one is ever "forced" to do something they really do not WANT to do. Including Men. In fact I have had some of the best relationships with MEN. And still have them and their true friendship. We WANT to KNOW each other. That is God given. A gift from God. Period.

John H.

 

[bio-chem]

Bio,

You sure ARE a "religious zealot" in the truest sense of the word and meaning. You never stop your BULL.

I have NO problem with my Sexuality AS BORN. Maybe it is YOU that is STILL questioning yours. Why else would you put up so big a front and want others to "think you are..." And "so pure".

You are so pent-up from your self-imposed "abstinance" that you are mentally and physically a wreck. It IS NOT something NATURE intends for you. Have someone WORK on you and your body UNCONTROLABLY and you will be much relieved - and happy.

Then maybe you WILL SEE the TRUE GOD.

John H.

so by giving up my morals i will get to see God? id like to take wrong answers for a thousand alex

 

[bio-chem]

Gococks,

No God will not. I KNOW that FOR SURE. I know you'd like to "believe" that based on what you "learned" or "were taught".

I never use others and they do not use me. Especially Sexually. To me Sex is sacred and those you have Sex with the very same. Men and/or Women. And they KNOW that too about me. I do not "take lightly" feelings a person has for each other as long as they are each of age and ability of consent and give that consent freely. No one is ever "forced" to do something they really do not WANT to do. Including Men. In fact I have had some of the best relationships with MEN. And still have them and their true friendship. We WANT to KNOW each other. That is God given. A gift from God. Period.

John H.

homosexuality is not a gift from God. its a perversion of satan.

 

[John H.]

homosexuality is not a gift from God. its a perversion of satan.

Bio,

You have your "religion" and your "god"...

I have mine WHICH IS THE REAL GOD. And REAL RELIGION. Touchet!!!!

See how that works...

I've got to get going though. You and your kind do have a "head" start on me.... And I've got a lot of money to make and buildings and castles to build... And people to scam... If I pay you more than you are now getting can I "hire" you - you are good at "spin"...

John H.

John H.

 

[John H.]

homosexuality is not a gift from God. its a perversion of satan.

Bio,

You had better start lining up all the animals and other things in Nature that are then. And those that are BiSexual and Asexual too. Don't forget them now. Do you use incense too?

John H.

 

[John H.]

so by giving up my morals i will get to see God? id like to take wrong answers for a thousand alex

Bio,

You? Moral? Not according to you and your own words - you said you wanted three women on a deserted island all to yourself - all it takes it just the thought and all that wet dreaming you end up doing and you are falling by the "wayside".... I love those that THINK they are "so moral".... Those are more often than not the most immoral.

John H.

 

[gococksDJS]

Gococks,

No God will not. I KNOW that FOR SURE. I know you'd like to "believe" that based on what you "learned" or "were taught".

I never use others and they do not use me. Especially Sexually. To me Sex is sacred and those you have Sex with the very same. Men and/or Women. And they KNOW that too about me. I do not "take lightly" feelings a person has for each other as long as they are each of age and ability of consent and give that consent freely. No one is ever "forced" to do something they really do not WANT to do. Including Men. In fact I have had some of the best relationships with MEN. And still have them and their true friendship. We WANT to KNOW each other. That is God given. A gift from God. Period.

John H.

You don't know shit John H, you believe. You believe that in the eyes of God, what you are doing is acceptable, and I believe that you will burn for all eternity for it, but for you to say that you know for a fact is moronic. Your fisting days where you and your buddies shove baseball bats up your asses may have transcended you into some state of mind that you think is heaven, but it wasn't, so don't tell me you know at all. The basis of God, any god for that matter is faith, and I have faith that you will burn for all time.
And what's with your comment about being of age? Did your mentor Dr. Kesey study subjects of age? Does a 13 month old infant posess the ability to say "I do not want to be sexually violated by you!"????? NO they don't, yet he performed a study that HE PUBLISHED IN HIS OWN BOOK that infants can have orgasms. So yet again you contradict yourself. You have huge problems John H, and hopefully you will realize what is actually going on in your melon.

 

[soxmuscle]

Today was National Pirate Awareness Day. A club at my school of all stoners and cokeheads started the "Pirate Club" and they handed out eye patches to everyone to celebrate. ha.

 

[bio-chem]

john h the truth is not for sale. neither is my alegience to it.

just because animals do it doesnt make it ok for humans. we are not animals. ie. male cats kill young that are not theirs, so the females will get ready to have babies faster. Are you saying if animals do something then it is ok for humans to? i know you would like to believe that if animals do it its ok, but then someone comes up with something animals do that we shouldnt and you refuse to respond. it would be nice if you would, but i dont expect you to. how could you respond?

and again john boy wet dreams dont make me immoral. its nice that you continue to say such things because the ridiculousness of your arguement is so obvious.

and i especially like your " I love those that THINK they are "so moral".... Those are more often than not the most immoral." i have wet dreams and you stick your hand up another guys ass. yet im the one who is the most immoral. good one. your deffinitly winning points with that one.

when your ready to have a mature conversation about morality let the rest of us know. its really sad how your insecurities take over when we talk about morality

 

[fantasma62]

Hi Thatguy,

PIRATES - as in REAL Pirates - as in REAL MEN. REAL MEN do have sex with each other too. And always have. Throughout time and throughout history.
It has been documented and more is coming out about it all the time as research into the subject is published. Even in primitive societies.

Take Care, John H.

WTF?

Real men? Not as in manly men right? You mean like flesh and bone men, because no "REAL MAN, MANLY MAN" is going to have sex with another man EVER...
C'mon John....

 

[ponyboy]

Ever done the "pirate"?

You shoot in a woman's eye and then kick her in the leg so she has her hand over her eye and has to hop around saying "Arr".


Captain: "Have you ever been to sea, John H.?"

John H: "No captain, but I've been blown ashore..."

 

[John H.]

You don't know shit John H, you believe. You believe that in the eyes of God, what you are doing is acceptable, and I believe that you will burn for all eternity for it, but for you to say that you know for a fact is moronic. Your fisting days where you and your buddies shove baseball bats up your asses may have transcended you into some state of mind that you think is heaven, but it wasn't, so don't tell me you know at all. The basis of God, any god for that matter is faith, and I have faith that you will burn for all time.
And what's with your comment about being of age? Did your mentor Dr. Kesey study subjects of age? Does a 13 month old infant posess the ability to say "I do not want to be sexually violated by you!"????? NO they don't, yet he performed a study that HE PUBLISHED IN HIS OWN BOOK that infants can have orgasms. So yet again you contradict yourself. You have huge problems John H, and hopefully you will realize what is actually going on in your melon.

Gococks,

Go back and re-read what I posted carefully. NO WHERE did I SAY or indicate that I - I was into fisting. I started this thread for discussion to see what everyone thought and if they had experienced it. I have said that I have seen it happen and can completely UNDERSTAND the "why" of it and the "methodology" and the purpose and the outcome. Someone WHO CARES about another CAN utilize this form of CARING through Sexual expression BUT MUST DO IT WITH COMPLETE KNOWLEGDE AND CARE AND METHODOLOGY...

In your rush to damn others BASED ON YOUR BELIEFS which YOU "THINK" are "RIGHT" and "RIGHTEOUS" you have missed a lot. You BLINDED yourself to what WAS actually said an interjected into this discussion what YOU "THOUGHT" was said. Your personal rage and displeasure has swallowed you up completely along with your personal zealotness. And that is what "religious zealots" DO all the time. They never SEE all sides of ANYTHING just what "they" "set up as convenient for themselves" and God KNOWS anyone that does not "agree" with them how they will respond. You are a "classic" narrowminded person. You put yourself into a mental and physical prison and throw away the key.

The "faith" you speak of, I have just AS MUCH "faith" that I WILL see God and Heaven. I am quite SURE of that. I KNOW who I am and the kind of person I AM. "Religion" IS MAN MADE - by people such as yourself which is exactly why I will NEVER have any use for any of them. They are based on falsehood, damning, bigotry, inaccuracies, out-right lying, hatred, misery, etc. Who the hell would WANT to be a part of all that? Certainly NEVER me. I treat others with respect THEY EARN same as me. Nothing is a "given".

As for Dr. Alfred C. Kinsey, his work HAS STOOD the test of time and EXTREME SCRUTINY. For over 50 years of it. You really need to re-read (IF you have even read one word HE ACTUALLY SAID AND WROTE in the first place)... which most "zealots" really never did. They just criticize kinda like a bunch of old ladies who got on a party-line telephone and all just started "cluckin like a bunch of hens" without ANY substance to anything....
I am SURE Dr. Kinsey IS IN HEAVEN and KNOWS GOD himself. And KNOWS Dr. Kinsey worked FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL PEOPLE OF ALL AGES SINCERELY AND HONESTLY AND CARINGLY.

John H.

 

[John H.]

Today was National Pirate Awareness Day. A club at my school of all stoners and cokeheads started the "Pirate Club" and they handed out eye patches to everyone to celebrate. ha.

Hi Sox,

As with any segment of society Pirates were some of the smartest people. Clever. Ingenuous. And there were those that couldn't do much to help even themselves...

"Eye patches" - hell yes, they must be "handed out" for "protection" from "missles" fired...

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

john h the truth is not for sale. neither is my alegience to it.

just because animals do it doesnt make it ok for humans. we are not animals. ie. male cats kill young that are not theirs, so the females will get ready to have babies faster. Are you saying if animals do something then it is ok for humans to? i know you would like to believe that if animals do it its ok, but then someone comes up with something animals do that we shouldnt and you refuse to respond. it would be nice if you would, but i dont expect you to. how could you respond?

and again john boy wet dreams dont make me immoral. its nice that you continue to say such things because the ridiculousness of your arguement is so obvious.

and i especially like your " I love those that THINK they are "so moral".... Those are more often than not the most immoral." i have wet dreams and you stick your hand up another guys ass. yet im the one who is the most immoral. good one. your deffinitly winning points with that one.

when your ready to have a mature conversation about morality let the rest of us know. its really sad how your insecurities take over when we talk about morality

Bio,

What you DO and others like you is to SELECT what YOU "THINK" is "right" and/or "wrong". It IS NOT BASED ON FACTS AS THEY ARE and is mostly without ANY UNDERSTANDING that IS HONEST with regard to any subject. It is mostly "visions" and "conjecture" and "postulating" and "damning for whatever reason"... And you like to entwine something that is dangerous with something that is completely fine and right. There IS ALWAYS a BIG DIFFERENCE. Your narrow-mindedness is what clouds your "thinking" and your UNwillingness to SEE things ALL THINGS from ALL SIDES of the situation OBJECTIVELY. You place yourself into a mental and physical prison and throw away the keys and expect everyone else to just "agree with you" because YOU "SAID IT" and "IT MUST BE 'RIGHT'"....

As for your wet dreams, I think the reason you are so upset is because YOU THINK it is possible YOUR WET DREAMS are immoral. I would bet you THINK that yourself. And are DAMNING yourself because of them. There IS a VALID purpose for wet dreams just as there is a VALID purpose for beating off or being beatin off by someone else - Male OR Female.... And BOTH can experience a tremendous getting to KNOW and CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER from having done that as a HELP to each other because truly said BOTH CAN AND DO BENEFIT. The beater AND the beatee.

I can see by your response to what I have said you HAVE NOT ACTUALLY READ AND UNDERSTOOD what I HAVE SAID. You just put your own "spin" on it as if it is something I said when in FACT I NEVER. You need to read and comprehend - carefully. Because you are inserting you foot into your mouth by your statements. BE CAREFUL and THOUGHTFUL. BE OBJECTIVE and willing to LEARN HONESTLY.

Also, instead of "setting yourself up as the speaker for everyone else" why don't you get into the habit of SPEAKING FOR YOURSELF. Let OTHERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. Who died and made YOU 'god'?

John H.

 

[John H.]

WTF?

Real men? Not as in manly men right? You mean like flesh and bone men, because no "REAL MAN, MANLY MAN" is going to have sex with another man EVER...
C'mon John....

Hi Tony,

IT HAPPENS EVERYDAY - REAL MEN - FLESH AND BLOOD MEN and they ARE STILL AND ALWAYS - REAL MEN. Period.

Same as Cowboys, Construction Workers, etc. REAL MEN!

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Ever done the "pirate"?

You shoot in a woman's eye and then kick her in the leg so she has her hand over her eye and has to hop around saying "Arr".


Captain: "Have you ever been to sea, John H.?"

John H: "No captain, but I've been blown ashore..."

Hi Pony,

NICE!!!

Have I been "...blown..." - ABSOLUTELY. Have I "drowned" anyone in that effort - ABSOLUTELY. And they ALWAYS COME BACK FOR MORE. Done WELL EVERYONE BENEFITS. And it IS SACRED.

Take Care, John H.

 

[Little Wing]

i think if god is as harsh at judging sexual perversions as many faiths seem to think he will be then even though i am a heterosexual woman who believes in monogamy and sex within the context of a marriage i might be burning in hell right along side john. sex is best done with shameless abandon and an awareness of your own and your lovers deepest desires. and lets face it john isn't the only one here who isn't doing it missionary style with the lights out.

 

[fantasma62]

Hi Tony,

IT HAPPENS EVERYDAY - REAL MEN - FLESH AND BLOOD MEN and they ARE STILL AND ALWAYS - REAL MEN. Period.

Same as Cowboys, Construction Workers, etc. REAL MEN!

Take Care, John H.

Ok, so you do mean just flesh and blood men. Not necessarily manly men. You know, the men that love women and would not sexually touch another guy, because WE don't like it....
Rember, what you may think is Ok, I may not. For tastes, flavors were created. You have your taste and I have mine....
I'll leave it as that because this topic is just weird.....

 

[bio-chem]

Bio,


As for your wet dreams, I think the reason you are so upset is because YOU THINK it is possible YOUR WET DREAMS are immoral. I would bet you THINK that yourself. And are DAMNING yourself because of them.
John H.

when did you become an expert on what i think? can you read minds? are you bulimic?

 

[John H.]

Ok, so you do mean just flesh and blood men. Not necessarily manly men. You know, the men that love women and would not sexually touch another guy, because WE don't like it....
Rember, what you may think is Ok, I may not. For tastes, flavors were created. You have your taste and I have mine....
I'll leave it as that because this topic is just weird.....

Hi Tony,

Yes, REAL flesh-and-blood MEN - and Women.

And you are absolutely right - there IS variety in ALL things in life. Period. Some like one thing and others like others. In ALL areas of ALL things not just Sex. And there is a reason(s) for that just as with anything in life. You - or I - could say we do "not care for" something and that is fine - FOR US. It is those that begin the "damning", the hatred, the bigotry, etc. of others BASED ON THEIR PERSONAL BELIEFS, bring "religion" into it which IS MAN-MADE, attempt to have or have laws passed "regulating"...

With regard to BiSexuality and Homosexuality - which ARE COMPLETELY NATURAL just as with Heterosexuality - God AND Christ NEVER SAID ONE WORD - THEMSELVES - THEMSELVES - THEMSELVES - (emphasis INTENDED) - so since They BOTH NEVER SAID one word MAN has absolutely no right whatsoever to pass their personal beliefs onto others to the point that it causes someone else that does not suscribe to or "believe" or "accept" .... EACH OF US IS ENTITLED to LIVE LIFE to the fullest. It IS a basic RIGHT. With regard to Sexuality EACH PERSON MUST BE of age and ability of consent and give that consent FREELY. Other than that restriction it is simply NO ONE ELSE'S BUSINESS - NOT "religion", NOT politics, NOT other people (unless permission is granted by those so involved).. Period. Everyone is entitled to express their views and their feelings on anything but that is as far as it should go. Each person must decide FOR THEMSELVES what IS "right" FOR THEMSELVES and those they are involved with in life. NO ONE should ever USE others in my opinion - it is disrespectful to both involved I feel. And many "religious" types USE others and think nothing of it. But to each his own I guess.

Take Care, John H.