Same Sex Marriages

[John H.]

I'm not naming names but someone needs to be strung up by their penis and have it chopped off at the base...

Hi Super,

What would you do with it afterwards? Eat it?

Now "...str(i)ng(ing) up..." might not be such a bad idea if you really think about it - certainly the Penis would LOVE the "attention".... And so would the Guy it is attached to if done in a Sexually pasionate way...

Wouldn't it be much better to let it "live" and you could "enjoy it" forever? Why cut off the "life" of a damn good cock?

Take Care, John H.

 

[SuperFlex]

Hi John,

When you get a chance buddy you should take some time and read the Christmas story. There's this dude in it that you should get to know.......

 

[Burner02]

Hi Decker,

Look at No. 1 you have quoted: It IS TOTALLY WRONG. Homosexuality, as well as Heterosexuality and BiSexuality ARE COMPLETELY NATURAL. See the book BIOLOGICAL EXUBERANCE, by Bruce Bagemihl which discusses Homosexuality and BiSexuality in the animal kingdom. See any textbook on Botany for example and see that BiSexuality and Asexuality are COMPLETELY NATURAL - and keep researchaing in other areas - you WILL FIND that EACH of the Sexualities ARE NATUAL VARIATIONS - as with ANYTHING ELSE IN LIFE.

Look at No. 2: "...Infertile couples and old people..." get "legally married" ALL THE TIME. Why would you think they can not? And the world DOES NOT NEED "marriage" to produce children through Heterosexual couples. It HAPPENS all the time OUTside of marriage. Marriage IS MAN-MADE and is NOT a prerequisite to anyone having children. Also the world is OVERPOPULATED now - we DO NOT need MORE people, we need LESS!!!

Look at No. 3: Being either Heterosexual or Homosexual or BiSexual IS NOT a requirement for raising Heterosexual children. Heterosexual couples RAISE children that ARE BiSexual and Homosexual ALL THE TIME. And just because a couple is Homosexual DOES NOT GUARANTEE that the children will be Homosexual as well - in fact many ARE HETEROSEXUAL even though they are raised in a Homosexual environment. Sexuality IS DETERMINED by Nature NOT MAN! .....

ANYTIME someone infringes on the rights of some, and/or others, EVERYONE is ultimately affected. It does not stop.

Take Care, John H.

you didn't catch that all bullets were sarcasm?

 

[joshp]

Well I'll start off by saying the traditional family is hard to find and a good amount of Americans are unable to attain it. The divorce rate is rediculously high and a minority of americans are able to hold to the traditional definition and purpose of marriage. The fact is marriage isn't what it used to be. Society can decide whether they would like to continue to devalue marriage or society can decide whether they want to bring it back to what its original definition was.

Personally I feel people have lost much of their selfcontrol, have become self centered, are unwillingly to make sacrifices and have become lazy. So in order to make us still feel good about our new ways, we change the definition of previous terms and begin to rationalize things to make them right. But does society really gain from this?

 

[bio-chem]

Well I'll start off by saying the traditional family is hard to find and a good amount of Americans are unable to attain it. The divorce rate is rediculously high and a minority of americans are able to hold to the traditional definition and purpose of marriage. The fact is marriage isn't what it used to be. Society can decide whether they would like to continue to devalue marriage or society can decide whether they want to bring it back to what its original definition was.

Personally I feel people have lost much of their selfcontrol, have become self centered, are unwillingly to make sacrifices and have become lazy. So in order to make us still feel good about our new ways, we change the definition of previous terms and begin to rationalize things to make them right. But does society really gain from this?

WOW astute observations. i like your post. interesting way to look at it

 

[GFR]

WOW astute observations. i like your post. interesting way to look at it

No, he is only pointing out how humans have been from the begining, to think it is a new change in their actions or nature is just naive and foolish.

 

[bio-chem]

No, he is only pointing out how humans have been from the begining, to think it is a new change in their actions or nature is just naive and foolish.

so mankind has degenerated from the begining? there goes the whole monkey into man debate. i guess its man to monkey is that it?

 

[maniclion]

so mankind has degenerated from the begining? there goes the whole monkey into man debate. i guess its man to monkey is that it?

Monkey Man's an alright dude so why you gotta go and drag him into this deluge of malignity? This cornucopia of contempt?

 

[Burner02]

u been hittin' the thesaurus again, manic?

 

[bio-chem]

Monkey Man's an alright dude so why you gotta go and drag him into this deluge of malignity? This cornucopia of contempt?

i miss him

 

[CowPimp]

Wow, this is so evenly split!

I believe that being gay is also genetic. There is evidence of gay animals out there. You think they choose to be gay because the gay animal lifestyle looks more appealing to them? Give me a break.

Since they are most likely born that way, I think they deserve to make the same type of spiritual connection to their significant other that heterosexuals have the oppotortunity to.

What's the argument against it? They might take advantage; two friends might do it for tax benefits? The same can, and does, happen in a heterosexual marriage. God is against it? First of all, you are a hypocrite. You are having pre-marital sex. You have no right to say anything regarding sexual behaviors that God would approve of. Furthermore, I don't think God is quite as concerned with what type of consensual sex you have relative to say hypocracy, greed, malice, etc.

 

[bio-chem]

What's the argument against it? They might take advantage; two friends might do it for tax benefits? The same can, and does, happen in a heterosexual marriage. God is against it? First of all, you are a hypocrite. You are having pre-marital sex. You have no right to say anything regarding sexual behaviors that God would approve of. Furthermore, I don't think God is quite as concerned with what type of consensual sex you have relative to say hypocracy, greed, malice, etc.

who is this directed against? i have not had pre-marital sex.

 

[CowPimp]

who is this directed against? i have not had pre-marital sex.

The vast majority of the general population. Also, have not, or cannot?

 

[GFR]

who is this directed against? i have not had pre-marital sex.

Get some game homo

 

[bio-chem]

Get some game homo

too much wild turkey tonight foreman? christmas come early for you?

 

[GFR]

too much wild turkey tonight foreman? christmas come early for you?

No, I'm not drinking tonight....but will be in a few

 

[god hand]

Well I'll start off by saying the traditional family is hard to find and a good amount of Americans are unable to attain it. The divorce rate is rediculously high and a minority of americans are able to hold to the traditional definition and purpose of marriage. The fact is marriage isn't what it used to be. Society can decide whether they would like to continue to devalue marriage or society can decide whether they want to bring it back to what its original definition was.

Personally I feel people have lost much of their selfcontrol, have become self centered, are unwillingly to make sacrifices and have become lazy. So in order to make us still feel good about our new ways, we change the definition of previous terms and begin to rationalize things to make them right. But does society really gain from this?

Best post in awhile

 

[CowPimp]

Well I'll start off by saying the traditional family is hard to find and a good amount of Americans are unable to attain it. The divorce rate is rediculously high and a minority of americans are able to hold to the traditional definition and purpose of marriage. The fact is marriage isn't what it used to be. Society can decide whether they would like to continue to devalue marriage or society can decide whether they want to bring it back to what its original definition was.

Personally I feel people have lost much of their selfcontrol, have become self centered, are unwillingly to make sacrifices and have become lazy. So in order to make us still feel good about our new ways, we change the definition of previous terms and begin to rationalize things to make them right. But does society really gain from this?

Who says same-sex marriages are going to devalue marriage? Who says that gay marriages will end in divorce more frequently than heterosexual marriages? Why should we deny them the right just because some people who have no business in their affairs disagree with their sexual behavior?

It is your opinion that it devalues marriage, not a fact. I, in fact, think it adds value to marriage. If the true criterion for marriage should be true love, then gay people should be no exception. They can experience it just like a heterosexual can.

 

[raab]

Let's take the church out of the issue of gay vs straight. Let's view the problem from strictly a health issue. Gay sex has brought us the black plague of the 80's and has failed to recede even with all of the information at hand on how it spreads. It just goes to show you that armed with all the information to combat this desease there are so many selfish and mentally defective people out there that they do not care what happens to their sexual partners. The cure for the desease is as bad as the desease. I believe in quarantine, isolation, and imprisonment until death. Don't give me any crap about a cure? I think that after 30 years of research of this desease with no success only to discover more mutated strains that are even more aggresive we must face the cold hard facts of what it will take to wipe this desease out. Put yourself in the position of being a parent and what would you do if your son or daughter came down with the desease because their partner would not tell them the truth? 10 minutes of pleasure for someone can also be a death sentence for one of your loved ones.

 

[bio-chem]

now think of being the family member who can o longer see their family member because your a hard ass. there will be a cure. its coming.

 

[mervin]

I am totally 100% against it! Just take into consideration human " plumbing ". Some things just were not meant to be. Some doors only open one way. The younger generation has been duped by the politacal correct theory. If you want to change the course of humanity, start with the children. That is exactly what has happened in our country. Because the younger generation has been taught to accept everyones lifestyle, it is no problem to present " gay marriage". By the way, there is no such thing as gay marriage. Marriage is only between a man and woman. It has always been that way. Society can not be governed by feelings. Someone might have gay feelings, but that does not make it right. Someone might have feelings to get drunk everyday, that does not make it right. Someone might have the feelings to make love with a child, that does not mean they should just be free to do it. You might work with gay people, as mentioned, that are better than the the straight people, that still does not make it right. In saying homosexuality is not right, that does not imply that "gay" people are monstors. A lot of things are not right. You can remove religion, morality and it is still not right according to nature. All condoning it will do is open the door for the next wave of what has to be accepted.

 

[bio-chem]

All condoning it will do is open the door for the next wave of what has to be accepted.

ultimately true, yet this arguement will always be pushed aside in this thread

 

[GFR]

Let's take the church out of the issue of gay vs straight. Let's view the problem from strictly a health issue. Gay sex has brought us the black plague of the 80's and has failed to recede even with all of the information at hand on how it spreads. It just goes to show you that armed with all the information to combat this desease there are so many selfish and mentally defective people out there that they do not care what happens to their sexual partners. The cure for the desease is as bad as the desease. I believe in quarantine, isolation, and imprisonment until death. Don't give me any crap about a cure? I think that after 30 years of research of this desease with no success only to discover more mutated strains that are even more aggresive we must face the cold hard facts of what it will take to wipe this desease out. Put yourself in the position of being a parent and what would you do if your son or daughter came down with the desease because their partner would not tell them the truth? 10 minutes of pleasure for someone can also be a death sentence for one of your loved ones.

I agree 100% burn all fags at the stake

 

[GFR]

 

[mervin]

Let's take the church out of the issue of gay vs straight. Let's view the problem from strictly a health issue. Gay sex has brought us the black plague of the 80's and has failed to recede even with all of the information at hand on how it spreads. It just goes to show you that armed with all the information to combat this desease there are so many selfish and mentally defective people out there that they do not care what happens to their sexual partners. The cure for the desease is as bad as the desease. I believe in quarantine, isolation, and imprisonment until death. Don't give me any crap about a cure? I think that after 30 years of research of this desease with no success only to discover more mutated strains that are even more aggresive we must face the cold hard facts of what it will take to wipe this desease out. Put yourself in the position of being a parent and what would you do if your son or daughter came down with the desease because their partner would not tell them the truth? 10 minutes of pleasure for someone can also be a death sentence for one of your loved ones.

Cuba quarintines AIDS victim. I agree. Not as punishment, but as a preventative measure. Not prison, just quarintine.

 

[John H.]

Well I'll start off by saying the traditional family is hard to find and a good amount of Americans are unable to attain it. The divorce rate is rediculously high and a minority of americans are able to hold to the traditional definition and purpose of marriage. The fact is marriage isn't what it used to be. Society can decide whether they would like to continue to devalue marriage or society can decide whether they want to bring it back to what its original definition was.

Personally I feel people have lost much of their selfcontrol, have become self centered, are unwillingly to make sacrifices and have become lazy. So in order to make us still feel good about our new ways, we change the definition of previous terms and begin to rationalize things to make them right. But does society really gain from this?

Hi Joshp,

"Marriage" - a Man-made institution - is NOT going to "bring anything...".

PEOPLE DO - THEMSELVES! In THEIR personal relationships with others REGARDLESS of the Gender of anyone involved. BEING HONEST and HONESTLY CARING about others is WHAT IS IMPORTANT - NOT some piece of paper....

"...self-control...(?)" Maybe, somewhat perhaps. Maybe what is more to the point is that people tend to DO what Nature says BECAUSE they are a part of Nature and the Natural World? NOT Apart from it.

Does "society" gain from ANYONE being dishonest with themselves and with others? In ANY endeavor? Really?

I VALUE TREMENDOUSLY the relationships I have with the MEN I know and the WOMEN I know - because I AM TOTALLY UPFRONT with them and THEY KNOW THAT before anything "happens" because I WANT THEM TO KNOW I SINCERELY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THEM - NO BULL!! I do that in my actions not so much in words and I have had the MEN tell me MORE than the Ladies "YOU REALLY CARE!!!" I DO!!!! ABSOLUTELY!!!! Else I would NOT engage in relationships with them. I do NOT believe in being dishonest with people and as many seem to do just use others for personal gratification... It is NOT just about the Sexual - it is ALL encompassing.

I think many have lost sight of the VALUE of life and living - living RIGHT!

"Society" is nothing more than a collection of persons with a "name" attached for identification. "It" is just as right and just as wrong as each individual. Society is a collection of people.

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

No, he is only pointing out how humans have been from the begining, to think it is a new change in their actions or nature is just naive and foolish.

Hi Foreman,

How true!!! Many are so...

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Wow, this is so evenly split!

I believe that being gay is also genetic. There is evidence of gay animals out there. You think they choose to be gay because the gay animal lifestyle looks more appealing to them? Give me a break.

Since they are most likely born that way, I think they deserve to make the same type of spiritual connection to their significant other that heterosexuals have the oppotortunity to.

What's the argument against it? They might take advantage; two friends might do it for tax benefits? The same can, and does, happen in a heterosexual marriage. God is against it? First of all, you are a hypocrite. You are having pre-marital sex. You have no right to say anything regarding sexual behaviors that God would approve of. Furthermore, I don't think God is quite as concerned with what type of consensual sex you have relative to say hypocracy, greed, malice, etc.

Hi CowPimp,

...AND in the Plant world as well....

I highly double PLANTS "choose" to be BiSexual, for example...

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

Let's take the church out of the issue of gay vs straight. Let's view the problem from strictly a health issue. Gay sex has brought us the black plague of the 80's and has failed to recede even with all of the information at hand on how it spreads. It just goes to show you that armed with all the information to combat this desease there are so many selfish and mentally defective people out there that they do not care what happens to their sexual partners. The cure for the desease is as bad as the desease. I believe in quarantine, isolation, and imprisonment until death. Don't give me any crap about a cure? I think that after 30 years of research of this desease with no success only to discover more mutated strains that are even more aggresive we must face the cold hard facts of what it will take to wipe this desease out. Put yourself in the position of being a parent and what would you do if your son or daughter came down with the desease because their partner would not tell them the truth? 10 minutes of pleasure for someone can also be a death sentence for one of your loved ones.

Hi Raab,

You are totally forgetting that BiSexual and Homosexual as well as Heterosexual people have been around for as long as life itself. And so have various diseases. Usually because people are not "hygenic". WHY would a "disease" just recently "crop up" out of "some kind of revenge"? If being BiSexual and Homosexual were wrong - and THEY ARE NO MORE SO THAN BEING HETEROSEXUAL (AND "acting" on that Sexuality NATURALLY) - why would a "disease of revenge" NOW appear - after MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of years of their prevalency? It would NOT surprise me to find out it is something created by "the powers that be" to try in some way "change" what IS COMPLETELY NATURAL AND RIGHT! Because of the TOTAL LACK OF ANY UNDERSTANDING with regard to the NATURALNESS OF VARIATION IN ALL THINGS IN LIFE - INCLUDING SEXUALITY!!!

Take Care, John H.

 

[John H.]

I am totally 100% against it! Just take into consideration human " plumbing ". Some things just were not meant to be. Some doors only open one way. The younger generation has been duped by the politacal correct theory. If you want to change the course of humanity, start with the children. That is exactly what has happened in our country. Because the younger generation has been taught to accept everyones lifestyle, it is no problem to present " gay marriage". By the way, there is no such thing as gay marriage. Marriage is only between a man and woman. It has always been that way. Society can not be governed by feelings. Someone might have gay feelings, but that does not make it right. Someone might have feelings to get drunk everyday, that does not make it right. Someone might have the feelings to make love with a child, that does not mean they should just be free to do it. You might work with gay people, as mentioned, that are better than the the straight people, that still does not make it right. In saying homosexuality is not right, that does not imply that "gay" people are monstors. A lot of things are not right. You can remove religion, morality and it is still not right according to nature. All condoning it will do is open the door for the next wave of what has to be accepted.

Hi Mervin,

(IN PART of yours above): "...it is still not right according to nature..."(?!)

"...according to nature...(?)

Nature is where Heterosexuality, BiSexuality AND Homosexuality EXIST - NATUALLY SO!!! As with ANYTHING in life there IS VARIETY IN ALL THINGS!!!

USING and/or ABUSING others for someone's own personal "gain" is what IS WRONG. And so many HETEROSEXUAL people ARE guilty of that - as well as some who are BiSexual and some that are Homosexual. Like I said, there is variety in ALL THINGS>

Take Care, John H.