Seriously considering cruising......thoughts?

[rangermike]

39 years old, already have kids,...and the boys have been clipped.

Did several cycles in my twenties and quit training for several years due to injuries and career.

I'm on the 11th week of the cycle below, with some decent gains so far. 15 lbs in 11 weeks....and have leaned out. Currently 5'8, 177 lbs, 11% bf

Week 1-17 Test E (600 mgs week)
Week 1-16 EQ (600 mgs week)
Weeks 8-12 Anavar (40 mgs daily)
Weeks 12-17 Winstrol (50 mgs daily)
Aromasin 12.5mg eod

This cycle was basically just to get me back into decent shape.

For those of you that cruise....what would you runt the test at?....and should I run it alone?.....since this is a fairly long cycle....how long should I wait til I blast?

The ultimate goal for me is to get back to 195 - 200 and ultimately keep my body fat in the 10% range.

Open to suggestions.

Thanks guys!

 

[EATSCHILDREN]

Typical cruising doses are around 200mg/week give or take 100mg. I hear some guys cruise on 500 though.

 

[EATSCHILDREN]

Bloodwork coming back ok would be the best time to blast. Other than that not too familiar with protocol.

 

[heavyiron]

300mg T weekly is plenty for most guys to cruise on.

 

[rangermike]

Thanks guys!

 

[D-Lats]

300mg T weekly is plenty for most guys to cruise on.

Thats what im at and very pleased.

 

[Hell]

250mg or so

 

[rangermike]

Thats what im at and very pleased.

Good to hear! That is what I am going to do!

 

[Pahlevan]

By cruising do you mean HRT? You should definitely speak with a Doctor and run tests etc.. before you do this.

 

[BigBird]

Yes, 250mg - 300mg probably is the most common Cruise dose. Test is usually the only anabolic compound taken during Cruise phase although you could take something to minimize water retention. I would probably cruise for at least the same amount of time as your Blast cycle lasted and then blast after that. Keep in mind, you may end up cruising permanently if you don't allow a natural recovery. Some recover with no issues after ove ra year of blasting (I certainly hope I'm one of those guys) yet others struggle and find out their test levels have remained too low therfore; they will qualify for HRT.

 

[Wreck12]

I read while i was researching cruising and blasting that using Hcg and adex while on your cruise is a good idea! I actually believe it was one of heavyirons post, but dont quote me on that...?

 

[deadlifter405]

I cruise on 200/week, and that keeps my total test level around 1200 ng/dl prior to the next 2x weekly injection. This dosage allows me to hold my on-cycle gains very well.

 

[XxGetLeanxX]

IMHO...even guys that cruise, should still have an "off" cycle and do a basic PCT protocol atleast once a year in case you do even want to come off completely. Gives your body somewhat of a break for recovery.

I'm on TRT.....but always come off for a short time (usually 2-3 months a year) and run 5-6 weeks of a PCT. Bloods always come back stellar, even my Test sits between 400-500 a month or so after PCT.....just a thought.

 

[Wreck12]

IMHO...even guys that cruise, should still have an "off" cycle and do a basic PCT protocol atleast once a year in case you do even want to come off completely. Gives your body somewhat of a break for recovery.

I'm on TRT.....but always come off for a short time (usually 2-3 months a year) and run 5-6 weeks of a PCT. Bloods always come back stellar, even my Test sits between 400-500 a month or so after PCT.....just a thought.

What would you suggest for PCT after 6-8 months of a cruise/blast protocol?

 

[heavyiron]

IMHO...even guys that cruise, should still have an "off" cycle and do a basic PCT protocol atleast once a year in case you do even want to come off completely. Gives your body somewhat of a break for recovery.

I'm on TRT.....but always come off for a short time (usually 2-3 months a year) and run 5-6 weeks of a PCT. Bloods always come back stellar, even my Test sits between 400-500 a month or so after PCT.....just a thought.

TRT is for guys who CAN'T recover...going off for them is dangerous and dumb.

 

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[stfuandliftbtch]

Want to hear some fucked up shit...

Had an 18 week cycle a while back, cruised/bridged with dbol for 4 weeks, cycled again for another 10 weeks, cruised on 300mgs test for 6 weeks, and i am now in week 6 of my new cycle.

About 37 weeks not coming off. All i can tell you, the difference is when you hop on you next cycle after your cruise, the gains wont be as obvious as if you were to have come off.

im at the point where i am currently on:
test 800mgs/wk 1-14
tren:360mgs/wk 1-10
dbol:50mgs/wk 1-5

And i have only put on 10lbs in 6 weeks...

Now you'd expect a good 15-25 pounds, but when you don't come off. its not as prevalent as if you were too have.

I'm stuck between wanting to be shredded and possible be around 5'8" 200lb @ 6-8% bdft...or just clean bulk and risk adding a little fat and possible getting to around 225.

I haven't been able to pass 217 in a while. It must be because i am not eating enough calories..i am just afraid to put on to much fat. I am easily getting in 4.5k-5k calories a day..guess i need to man up and just stop worrying about it so much..

i have a HUGE ocd over this!

OK, enough rambling. I know it is tempting to cruise, and just not come off, but honestly i think it would be best. especially at 177lb...you still have a lot of room to grow even without gear! Good LUCK!!!


P.S. Girlfriend ran out of birth control about 4 months ago.. I have finished inside of her every day for those months. She is NOT pregnant whatsoever...does get me thinking. Is it because i cant on gear, or have i just fucked my shit up!!?
-keep that in mind!


(just re-read your first paragraph...you clipped you nuts off!?!?! is that really what i just read!!!!??)
if so, nevermind man...fuck shit up

 

[BigBird]

The paragraph that mentions getting "clipped" is referring to a vasectomy which involves snipping the Vas deferens "pipe" thus not allowing sperm to travel out the dick and deposit into the Vag.

 

[XxGetLeanxX]

TRT is for guys who CAN'T recover...going off for them is dangerous and dumb.

What's up Heavy....I wasn't referring to all TRT guys to do this. My response was more directed at the OP as far a crusing....it still is a good idea for those who are "crusing" to give the body a break every now and then so you're not permantly shut down and have a chance to recover, so you don't HAVE to be on TRT for life.

My TRT situation is a bit different. I was still in normal range, just at the lower end of normal (AAS induced) which qualifies me (yippie...legal Test!).

Guys who are generally shut down for good, yes, should NOT go off and on as it would do more harm then good, this I agree with.

 

[Patriot1405]

I cruise at a prescribed dose of 200 mgs. A week, my test levels still come back peaked at ^1500 feels great!

 

[swollen]

When I cruise, I do 250mg every 10 days. Seems to work really well for me.

 

[hypno]

I just started my own HRT since my test finally came back correct at 308. 9 less and the dr would have prescribed HRT but oh well.

Doing 175mg test prop week (50mg eod) to see how I feel. I have lots of prop so will work with that till I see how its going then may move to test e for less injecting.

Listening to what Heavyiron has to say on this matter is all I can really suggest since I am just starting myself.

Good luck!

 

[BP2000]

9 less. that sucks. Just wait till it drops. HRT is better than black market, you might get bunk gear or non clean shiat.

 

[MattPorter]

Here's the deal.

Blasting and cruising is commonly used by A.) Top level Bodybuilders who need to maintain muscularity at all times and while cruising make sure health is up to snuff.

B.) Advanced trainers who are over age 40-45 whom already cycle for recreation or competition religiously and now are prescribed HRT.

From what I know and have researched, after prolong usage, and wanting to just "come off" can actually in many cases be deleterious to your health as sub par androgen levels will ALSO be unhealthy as HIGH androgen levels. and HRT would put you in the healthy range for everyday life.

-Matt

 

[stfuandliftbtch]

has anyone waited until post cycle to go to docs, get test levels checked(while you know they are low), and got it prescribed? any tricks?

 

[Digitalash]

125mg 2x a week feels pretty good to me , I also use a little bit of a-dex though because I think I retain a little water at this dosage without it. Not sure if it would be enough to give me gyno but not worth risking it lol.