Shorty's Competing :D

[hikerchick]

LOL shorty, what is it - something in the air here? because I have been the same way all week. First grumpy with my honey all week long, and then super bad cravings for sugar for days which I usually don't have this bad. What is the deal!?

 

[david]

Originally posted by Leslie
but a diet filled with bagels and bananas and pb and nuts with limited protein will not produce positive results for anyone I think you should stick to the trainer for exercise advice but seriously reconsider his diet plan.
Just my opinion. Hang in there girl

Posted by shortstuff 12/10/03

meal 1- 1/2c oats, 3whites, 2tsp peanut butter, grapefruit (out of banana's)

meal 2- bagel, 2tbsp FF cream cheese, can tuna drained, 1tbsp miracle whip

meal 3- apple, 1/4c nuts

meal 4- oops- 8 pork loin ribs i made with no sugar and a little BBQ suace, they are super good, 1 pioece of garlic bread and 4 cookies (they had no sugar either)

OK, after speaking with you on the phone Pam, as mentioned, I wasn't able to view what you were telling me diet wise but I see it here. I also attached what Leslie restated and agree with Leslie. I must question certain parts of that meal plan, Pam. I spoke to my trainer and she raised her eyebrow to the bagels, garlic bread, pork loin ribs etc. Maybe it's just that Deb set me on a tough eating plan knowing that I had to break certain habits and start jacking up my metabolism and such that her program has been quite effective. Another thought, if your not happy with the results and you have exercised "patience" then, maybe you should seek out another person at least, nutrition wise. Seems though, his weight training is make you happy, correct?

I'm here for you Pam like everyone else! Take care, hunny!

 

[shortstuff]

OK Here is the new game plan. After a lot of thought and reflection I am going back to a known system that will be able to be tweaked and evaluated. Thanks to help from a friend and I know I will get input from another friend. But as of right now too I am still holding soooooo much water. Hopefully after cardio and am doing dandelion roo, it will disappear.

Training Schedule:
M- Interval cardio in AM (starting next week yesterday was an off day will do today will be chest and post workout cardio 30 minutes)
Tu- Chest and postworkout cardio 30 min
W- Arms and post workout cardio 30 min
Th- Back no cardio
F- Off and AM interval cardio
Sa- Shoulders and post workout cardio 30 min
Su- Legs and no cardio

I will post diet in a little bit have to go meet a girlfriend.

 

[shortstuff]

OK New diet plan and no more sessions with Carbo trainer. I looked in the mirror today and I am totally upset. When last tested BF it was 27% it needs to go down, that makes me sick and to see how bloated my face is makes me so mad.

Training days-
meal 1- 4 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 1/2c dry oats
meal 2- 1 scoop protein, 1/2c cooked brown rice, 2tsp UDO's
meal 3- can tuna, 1 tbsp miracle whip, veggies
meal 4- 3oz cooked chicken, 3oz red potato, 2tsp UDO's
meal 5- 1 scoop protein, 2tsp UDO's, 1/2c cooked brown rice, cuces
meal 6- 5 egg whites, 1 whole, broccolli

Non Training days:

meal 1- 1/2c oats, 4 egg whites, 1 whole egg
meal 2- 1 scoop protein, 3oz red potato, 2tsp UDO's
meal 3- 3oz cooked chicken, 1/2c cooked brown rice, cuces, 2tsp UDO's
meal 4- 1 scoop protein, veggies, 2 tsp UDO's
meal 5- can tuna, 1tbsp miracle whip, veggies
meal 6- 5 whites, 1 whole, cuces

 

[hardasnails1973]

Diet looks good !! after 2 -3 weeks just start stripping say 1/2 cup of oats or brown rice goes to 1/4 and cut 2 tsp of oils on traing days. after a week of that modification up cardio by 5 minutes !! look at it this way 2 -3 weeks diet modifcation 1 week cardio evalutation and just walking in on down. rather see you adjust one thing at a time then every thing all at once !! max cardio will be 45 minutes 6 times a week. Not big fan on PB add a whole egg an drop 2 whites

1. establish base for 2-3 weeks
2. Pull caloires as indicated above
3. Next week reevaute cardio

 

[shortstuff]

Sweet thanks HAN I think this will be good, will do measurements tonight and see how things are in three weeks

 

[david]

Originally posted by shortstuff
OK New diet plan and no more sessions with Carbo trainer. I looked in the mirror today and I am totally upset. When last tested BF it was 27% it needs to go down, that makes me sick and to see how bloated my face is makes me so mad.

Training days-
meal 1- 4 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 1/2c dry oats
meal 2- 1 scoop protein, 1/2c cooked brown rice, 2tsp UDO's
meal 3- can tuna, 1 tbsp miracle whip, veggies
meal 4- 3oz cooked chicken, 3oz red potato, 2tsp UDO's
meal 5- 1 scoop protein, 2tsp UDO's, 1/2c cooked brown rice, cuces
meal 6- 5 egg whites, 1 whole, broccolli

Non Training days:

meal 1- 1/2c oats, 4 egg whites, 1 whole egg
meal 2- 1 scoop protein, 3oz red potato, 2tsp UDO's
meal 3- 3oz cooked chicken, 1/2c cooked brown rice, cuces, 2tsp UDO's
meal 4- 1 scoop protein, veggies, 2 tsp UDO's
meal 5- can tuna, 1tbsp miracle whip, veggies
meal 6- 5 whites, 1 whole, cuces

That looks so much better!

 

[shortstuff]

Yeah I thought about our talk and how I felt and this seems much better don't you think?

 

[atherjen]

I agree diet looks good! and hardasnails gave some great advice there! good luck girl

 

[Stacey]

That diet looks great girl/ and the workout... I may try your diet w/ you--- except for the tuna

 

[shortstuff]

Thanks you guys, now the hard part, breaking up with my trainer I am happy again, I hope this works well I trust HAN and all you guys to help me

 

[hardasnails1973]

I Think this is the easiest approach becuase it give you alot of simple drops you can do alittle here alittle there. Changing one variable at time will pin point what is working and what is not. plus your caloires are set high enough so it gives us a marginal figure to play with and alos they are ungodly low that your thyroid is going to shut down on ya. Starting tommorrow I want you to take temperatire in the morning when you first get up and keep track of it for one week. If it is still alittle low then we may need to up caloires by may be 10% and that all would be added in your post workout meal. Easiest way to find if people aren't eating enough take your normal temperature in the monring and if iy is not 97 degrees of higher then your caloires are way to low and if you are getting up in middle of night that is indication of you are also under feed or stressed out or combination of both.

 

[shortstuff]

12/15/03

Chest and Cardio

Had a great workout today!!!

Bench Press- 10x20lbs, 8x40lbs, 8x40lbs, 7x40lbs
Incline Bench Press- 10x10lbs, 7x20lbs, 7x20lbs, 6x20lbs
Free motion fly- 9x30lbs, 8x30lbs, 8x30lbs, 8x30lbs
Incline DB fly- 10x20lbs, 8x25lbs, 6x25lbs

30 minutes cardio on elliptical

 

[shortstuff]

12/16/03

meal 1- 1/2c oats, 4 whites, 1 whole

meal 2- 1 scoop protein, 3oz potato, 2tsp UDO's

meal 3- can tuna, 2tbsp mayo, cuces

meal 4- 3oz cooked chicken, 1/2c brown rice, 2tsp UDO's

meal 5- 1 scoop protein, 1/2c brown rice, 2 tsp UDO's veggies

meal 6- 5 whites, 1 whole, veggies

 

[Stacey]

You rock girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[hardasnails1973]

EXCELLENT !! from looking at this you are weight traiing at around inbetween meal 4-5 ? If you answer yes to this then we are on the same page. What was temp today ?

 

[shortstuff]

Thanks Stace, feels good to be back on a normal training regime and eating pattern

Temp this morning was 97.2 but I also had 5 meals not 6 yesterday so let me measure tomorrow morning and then we shall see

And Yes I train between meal 4 and 5

 

[Jenny]

I'm glad you found a new way to do things Pam I'm sure this will work really well

 

[shortstuff]

Thanks Hun

 

[hardasnails1973]

Excellent !! temp is a little low !! need to to get around High 97 degrees ... and take it again at nite to see if it rises !!

Good thread for some cardio info

http://www.bodymusclejournal.com/vol05/fitfigurespg29.html

 

[shortstuff]

I thought we talked about cardio and doing the long duration and interval cardio. Temp this morning was 97 on the nose, but I want to give it one more day and see how it is today. I have seen that article before also. I just am not even thinking about doing HITT or anything that will even risk my legs getting bigger I am already pissy about how large they are in comparison to me. I want to lean down a bit first.

Oh and temp last night was 98 degrees.

 

[shortstuff]

12/17/03 Back & Abs

Meal 1- 1/2c oats, 4 whites, 1 whole

Meal 2- 1 scoop protein, 1/2c brown rice, 2tsp UDO's

Meal 3- can tuna, 2tbsp miracle whip, veggies

Meal 4- 3oz chicken, 3oz red potato, 2tsp UDO's

Meal 5- 1 scoop protein, 1/2c brown rice, 2tsp UDO's

Meal 6- 5 whites, 1 whole, veggies

 

[shortstuff]

Oh and hey HAN, what do you think about the 15 minute do all out cardio???

 

[hardasnails1973]

I think it could lead to over training... may be once every 2 weeks for a change. Keep things simple

 

[shortstuff]

That is what I was going to do, stay with game plan, will let you know what temp is tonight and tomorrow morning.

 

[J'Bo]

hope you feel better soon babe.
only 6 more days for you.

 

[shortstuff]

Oh I feel greta, MINUS CRAMPS!!!!!! Which is good though, means more fun when Darren gets here!!!!!!!!

OH AND I GOT MY GRADES BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got an A in Biology, A- in BIology Lab, B+ in my bogus PS 102 class, A- in my University Studies class (a general education requirement)

 

[J'Bo]

WOW Shorty is a Smarty too
Congrats hun

 

[Stacey]

YEAH!!! CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR GRADES!!!!!!!!! Thats awesome sweetie!!! I knew you could do it! I'm very proud of you!!

Hope your cramps go away!! I'm guessing you got aunt flo?!

 

[shortstuff]

YES and I think I am going to die, I am sweating cause my cramps are so bad, this sucks, and yes flow is in town, but man they are killing me with this one.