trensomnia

[LAM]

i've been running tren a @ 50mg a day for almost a month. i love it. i had NO sleep issues until 4 days ago. i haven't slept more than 2 or 3 hrs. the last 4 nights in a row. what are the chances this is from the tren when it didn't effect my sleep at all for over 3 weeks?? i haven't changed anything. same dose, same time of day, same everything from day 1. wtf??

trenbolone is an CNS stimulant, can't remember if it directly effects the SNS or PNS but I'm guessing the later. this is one of the main benefits of tren since any time you increase CNS output you are increasing the BMR which equals increased fatty acid metabolism. most that suffer sleeplessness from tren also do from ECA, just very sensitive to CNS stimulation.

so take pills, to sleep if this happens... i prefer the kgb doesn't disrupt REM for me

 

[Danger]

weed does help on cycle for eating more and getting great sleep . it's best to use a vaporizer to go easy on your lungs though. if i were doing tren it would be great because i never dream when i smoke up before bed.

i had to quit during the first week of my cycle because i hate having to rely on it for those 2 benefits. once i stop i lose my appetite and ability to sleep for a couple days. i also need the money for all the food dammit. plus i can focus more on being organized in my diet & training when it's outta my system but i do miss it!

I agree about vaping. I am a medical marijuana patient so I def look for alternatives to harsh on the lungs smoke. Have you heard of BHO? Butaine extracted oil that you cape basically. Effs u up in one ripper like you sat down for hrs smoking. Makes you cough like hell at first but is way better on lungs. With the Tren anything that dosent hurt cardio even worse is def a plus!

 

[Deity]

Going 400mg/wk on tren ace atm with 1g test e a week and insomnia isn't really bothering me that much, its been about 5 years since i've slept a full night without waking up atleast 4 times. Only difference is on tren is its much harder to go back to sleep. As for the dreams, I have some of the most fucked dreams you can imagine as is, if anything tren has calmed them down.

 

[SloppyJ]

I agree about vaping. I am a medical marijuana patient so I def look for alternatives to harsh on the lungs smoke. Have you heard of BHO? Butaine extracted oil that you cape basically. Effs u up in one ripper like you sat down for hrs smoking. Makes you cough like hell at first but is way better on lungs. With the Tren anything that dosent hurt cardio even worse is def a plus!

Vape always gives me an uppity high no matter what strain. So I wasn't too pissed when my dog knocked it off the coffee table and broke it. I prefer a few RooR rips. But maybe it's just me, nugs don't help me sleep.

 

[klc9100]

thanks for the input. weed is not an option. i use to blaze all the time, but i can't now because of my job.

i've slept good 3 nights in a row now. the melatonin plus klonipin seem to do the trick for me.

now i have to get my doc to write me a script for the klonopin. i think i can pull it off. i got him to prescribe me test and aromasin (insurance even covers it).

 

[SloppyJ]

thanks for the input. weed is not an option. i use to blaze all the time, but i can't now because of my job.

i've slept good 3 nights in a row now. the melatonin plus klonipin seem to do the trick for me.

now i have to get my doc to write me a script for the klonopin. i think i can pull it off. i got him to prescribe me test and aromasin (insurance even covers it).

How are you going to go about this? I've always wondered what they think when you say you tried something and now you want to be prescribed to it.

Sent you a PM btw. Check it out.

 

[VictorZ06]

Xanax will work wonders but I strongly advise against using it. Try more natural or herbal remedies first. Benzos are so addictive, they can kill you....I'd drop the clonazapam.

Melatonin works for some, but not for all of us. I found a solution that works wonders for ME, it's product called Rozerem. It works similar to that of melatonin, but magnified by about 10 times. It's not addictive and will not take as deep of a toll on your body such as any kind of benzo. Your doc will need to write you a script though as it's not OTC.



/V

 

[vannesb]

xanax...

x2

 

[Big Pimpin]

it's tren ace. i am running test e @500/week and eq @400/week for 16 weeks. i started the tren at week 9 to run for last 1/2 of the cycle.

I'm about to start this exact cycle. How do you like the results thus far?

 

[VictorZ06]

I'm about to start this exact cycle. How do you like the results thus far?

You need more EQ, IMHO.




/V

 

[Big Pimpin]

You need more EQ, IMHO.




/V

500E/500EQ or 600E/600EQ?

 

[VictorZ06]

500E/500EQ or 600E/600EQ?

I'm not sure of your past or of your stats, but I will say this. If you are in fact a valid candidate to use EQ, I would not use any less than 600mg EW. I personally use 800mg-1g EW.

EQ takes a VERY long time to work, it's gains are lean and dry with a good deal of vascularity, done right. I love the stuff, but I won't see anything in terms of gains at 400mg EW.....not worth it bro. IMHO. Good luck.



/V

 

[klc9100]

i have loved everything about the cycle up to the sleeping problems from the tren. i'm not sure about bf%. i just go by how i look & feel and how my clothes fit. from day 1 of the cycle, i'm up 14lbs, but leaner. people that know me but haven't seen me in a few months trip out. i don't see it nearly as drastically as they do because i look at myself everyday.

i agree about the EQ. the next time i run it, i will run it much higher. i had never used it before and was scared to jump right in with a big dose.

it's good stuff though. between it and the last few weeks being on the tren, i've gotten way harder and more veins.