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i agreemin0 lee said:I'm all for torture first then castration and finish it off with death.
That is what I meant, but rape at any age or sex is wrong.Eggs said:I think the question was about child molesters, CL... grown ups victimizing children.
Now your funny.Chain Link said:I was trying to be funny.
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That's what I thought, I said to myself "damn is this guy into animals"Eggs said:When I read the animals, etc part I got a grin and was like "wtf, CL is definitely whacked tonight".
Oh, John... Strict interpretation of the Hebrew would indicate that the context of this passage of scripture is specifically charging mankind with the edict not to shed innocent blood (i.e. murder).John H. said:Archangel,
If a person BELIEVES in the Bible and the Bible SAYS "Thou shalt not kill" - HOW do you remain true to your "religious" beliefs then? There are NO "EXCEPTIONS" to this command.
What about "vengenance is mine sayeth the Lord"?
John H.
Eggs said:Let me just speak in for a step here. The Bible says "though shalt not kill". However, it has completely endorsed the right of government to establish laws that provide for capital punishment.
Thou shalt not kill is a personal command, not something that applies to law and government, where it is done according to established rule.
You can find plenty of cases of people being killed in the bible, by Gods command plenty of that time.
Vengenance, is that kind of like penenance?
John H. said:Hi Eggs,
There was a documentary I saw recently on PBS which was talking about the Commandments and one of the things discussed was that there was supposed to be no "interpretation" and I guess for a time people didn't "interpret" and now do????
I read it as it is stated: "Thou shalt not kill" - I see NO "exceptions" there and no "authority" for any "authortity" to do so. That is looking at it strickly speaking and not doing any interpretating. Same with the word "vengenance" and as applied meaning that ONLY God "has that as His right" - but then EVERYONE - no matter what is said - DOES INTERPRET.
Take Care, John H.
Eggs said:We know how you take things John, as you want to see them. Not necessarily how they are at all.
bio-chem said:john your hardly an authority on the subject
Eggs said:The Jews have a pretty solid grasp of what the old testament entails, of which a part is the ten commandments.
Not to knock the Jews, but they are very strict about their religion, and you could say quite "tight assed". I'd take their opinion on the matter any day over yours... and they very much in the past, during the time the commandments were actually, into capital punishment.
We know how you take things John, as you want to see them. Not necessarily how they are at all.
Mudge said:Castration might be ideal, but then I'd fear retribution from bitter criminal minds. So to be honest, I'd prefer to lean towards death.
One big problem is, sometimes we are wrong when we have "proven beyond a reasonable doubt."
Torture I'm not into, getting the job DONE - yes. Business, not pleasure.
John H. said:There was a documentary I saw recently on PBS which was talking about the Commandments and one of the things discussed was that there was supposed to be no "interpretation" and I guess for a time people didn't "interpret" and now do????
John H. said:"...sometimes we are wrong when we have 'proven beyond a reasonable doubt'..." I for one would CERTAINLY NEVER MAKE that mistake when it comes to another's life.
Mudge said:John, read up on God sending out King Saul and his army to do God's work. I dont like the idea of war, or killing either. But thou shalt not kill is a commandment for you or I - but if someone murders another do you let him roam free? Send his ass to God to be taken care of, letting someone like that roam free to continue doing what they do is a crime, IMHO.