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Which is better, testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate?

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Whichever one you get the best deal on.

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Good call. Think Test E has only 2mg of Testosterone/100mg more than Test C. It would be very hard to notice any difference.
 
If there both real get the best price mg for mg. Alot of test E is 250mg and some test C is 200mg. If they were put in unlabeled syringes at the same strength I doubt a person on this board (except for maybe a select few that have an extensive cycle history, definately not me) could tell the difference.
 
Testosterone is testosterone. They have the same ingredient Testosterone. The only difference is the esther which makes the testosterone short acting or long acting. If you keep your blood concentration levels the same by injecting the short acting more frequently and the long acting less frequently than theoretically the results should be the same.

What really makes the difference are the different brands that use different solvents and solvent concentrations. The chemical structure from enanthate is C7H12O2 from cypionate C8H12O2 only 1 carbon thus the effect is almost simular.

Now as the enanthate ester has one carbon atom less than cyp, therefore making it slightly faster to release.

Cypionate is more common in the US and Enanthate in Europe. Fact is that some bb-ers prefer cyp over enanth and strongly believe they become less bloat or injection pain, it maybe, or maybe not, be only imagination!!

Now If you look at the raw powders you'll notice a big difference. Enanthate smells strong, is more yellow and very hydrophobic. It almost melts at room temperature and turns bad very quick. And is very agressive.

Chemically beauty is both estrifications don't crystallise between each other. Beside that the enanthate will melt with 0.9% BA and no BB or co-solvent and if mixed with Cypionate with 2% BA and 15% BB you can make (very) high concentrations. This difference between the estrifications is THE secret of high concentration Test.

Other interesting point is that Injection of Enanthate is more painful and harsher on the system than cyp.
BA and BB are also known to cause cancer and will melt your plunger there fore you are injecting silicone in yourself with every shot better stick to less concentrated version and maybe live longer.. Buy only version that not use BA or BB as solvents just to make stronger.. Just take more shot if that's what you choose you want..
 
BA and BB are also known to cause cancer and will melt your plunger there fore you are injecting silicone in yourself with every shot better stick to less concentrated version and maybe live longer.. Buy only version that not use BA or BB as solvents just to make stronger.. Just take more shot if that's what you choose you want..

this guy Grozny is pretty smart guy :nerd:
 
They are pretty much the same bro (as previously stated by Goodskie). So if you get a better buy with Test-C do it. Same for Test-E BUT make sure that you're getting good quality. So do plenty of research and don't just dive in blindly.
 
this guy Grozny is pretty smart guy :nerd:
I didn't mean any disrespect I was just stating the truth, people should know when ordering from UGL's that use those as solvent my lab doesn't,that's how I know..
 
if your gear doesn't contain BA I'd be VERYYYY worried. Even pharm grade does for a reason, it's the only thing that keeps bacteria from growing if its introduced somehow.


Test E can be done without BB, it just makes the oil thinner. ALL gear has BA though or it wouldn't be safe to use.
 
I didn't mean any disrespect I was just stating the truth, people should know when ordering from UGL's that use those as solvent my lab doesn't,that's how I know..

What does your lab use exactly? I haven't seen anyone that claims not to use BA or BB. I'm not saying it's not out there but HIGHLY uncommon.
 
Yea I suppose it could be possible... never seen it


Afaik its pharm grade standard for a reason, because it can't be beat. Gear is exposed to bacteria no matter what, your pin touches air and then goes in the vial, your ugl leaves them open for a second before crimping etc. Keeping 100% sterility is impossible unless you get it from a pharmacy and do your injections in a clean room, otherwise its gonna have some contamination. But the BA keeps those few bacteria from multiplying and colonizing your whole vial. You inject a few bacteria, possibly most are already dead from the BA, your body fights it fine usually and theres no issue. You inject a bottle of oil thats fully colonized with bacteria, definite abscess.
 
prop all the way. long esters come on too slow and take too long to clear. i always use a short ester if i can.
 
I get my stuff straight from the pharm that the pro athletes get the no middle man straight from the source..
 
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I personally use enanthate but thats because my last few sources had the same price as cyp but tetst E was 300 mgs and test C was 200- 250 mgs. So i was getting a better deal on enanthate. Mg for mg I never could tell the difference though.
 
Like everyone else has stated, they are basically identical--interchangable.

The longer the ester, the higher the rate of aromatization. Technically, with the cyp ester being 1 molecule longer, it should convert to estrogen at a slightly higher rate, which is probably the reason some guys say they notice more water retention, but any difference is negligible.

Also, contrary to popular belief and despite shorter esters cotaining more testosterone per mg, the longer the ester, the GREATER it's anabolic effect. For over 80 years, in every study ever peformed, the longer the ester is, the more it increased protein synthesis, per mg.
 
I like test C... its far more common in pharmacies. I've never seen test E or test P outside of UGL's
 
I like test C... its far more common in pharmacies. I've never seen test E or test P outside of UGL's

Although I prefer cyp, enth is actually far more common internationally. Cyp is sold primarily in a U.S. pharmacies, whereas enth is the ester of choice in nearly every european country, as well as all over the world. Both forms of testosterone are equally viable.

Test prop is also sold in U.S pharms, although you rarely see it prescribed, due to its short half-life. Since testosterone is prescribed almost solely for TRT these days, physicians almost always preascribe the longer-estered test cyp, as most legitimate TRT patients prefer a less frequent injection schedule. This is why you see so many physicians gravitating towards pellets--because they only need to be implanted once every couple months. In the medical field, the goal of TRT is to formulate a type of testosterone which most closely mimics a man's natural release pattern (which means avoiding massive spikes in blood levels), while maximizing patient compliance. Pellets are the most effective from this standpoint, although BB'rs on TRT generally do not prefer them, as they generally result in a lower average testosterone level.
 
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I like test C... its far more common in pharmacies. I've never seen test E or test P outside of UGL's

I have bought Deca and all 3 tests from Walgreens on many occassions. Before TRT clinics were all over the place I had a couple of Docs that were all for writing me scripts for test and a couple that would write them for Deca and test. I think cyp is smoother but use enanthate and prop also. It's time to fill my test depot this week.
 
Cypionate Vs. Ethenate Whichever on sale at NAPSGEAR

I prefer Ethenate myself but no big difference either way maybe a little more bloat with the cypionate. Ive ordered both the only time I didn't like either was ordering from a site other than NAPSGEAR. Though I would go with the cheaper site but you get what you pay for. Do yourself a favor whichever you select go to NAPSGEAR.ORG to get it.
 
I have bought Deca and all 3 tests from Walgreens on many occassions. Before TRT clinics were all over the place I had a couple of Docs that were all for writing me scripts for test and a couple that would write them for Deca and test. I think cyp is smoother but use enanthate and prop also. It's time to fill my test depot this week.

I get a little pip with enanth too. Cyp all the way - a little longer ester, not that it makes a bunch of difference.
 
Has anyone ever heard of or run test e sub-q? I go to the doctor for check ups and hcg, he said test cyp run sub-q might give you a reaction however running test-e is perfectly safe and is proven to have the same absorption rate as I.M. as he does it himself. I have always done I.M. and am nervious about sub q for test(200mg/wk cruise)
 
I was searching for the same question, and I found this thread. Even here, I didn't get reliable answer.
People talk about their preference, not about difference in effect, but maybe there is no difference?
 
I was searching for the same question, and I found this thread. Even here, I didn't get reliable answer.
People talk about their preference, not about difference in effect, but maybe there is no difference?

The difference is so minute....you really will not notice the difference. However, my favorite kind of test is Bayer/Shering test e in 250mg amps. IMHO, that is the best test and it's the only kind of test that I have been using for the past 10 years or so. Never lets me down and I get it OTC when I'm in Europe. I get prop when I'm in the states. Roll with whatever is cheaper, best you stick with pharm grade.


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