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this country was founded on a belief in God, and homosexuality is against that (laws of God).
as I've said many times it is a moral one. it is one in which i believe to be detrimental to society. the next question of course is how is it detrimental? for that i can once again only refer someone to the article I posted. I find it explains it in a clear language I am incapable of.
no i get your point. i am just having fun
oh, well crap. this is something im not used to.
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some good debate on this thread.
Only for men, actually. Female homosexuals are conspicuous in their absence in scripture.
So I guess same-sex marriage is okay between two women, then?
And is it still okay to sell female children into sex-slavery, or did God cancel that part of the bible?
God? (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT) said:
This is not a right that I have. Thus, it is not unfairly denied to anyone. I am unable to marry another man. The law is being applied equally.
Your argument has no basis in law, whatsoever.
Only if they are cute and post it on the internet
in all seriousness is this is really the path you want to go down? your getting seriously off topic here. aguing the bible with people who use and believe it? I wouldn't presume to quote the koran to a muslim just because ive read it.
that scripture you posted didn't say anything about sex slavery.
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They should. I don't have a problem with polygamy. Again, that is about other people's relationships, not mine. As long as the people involved are consenting, key word being "consenting", I don't give a shit.
Polygamy has historically been a huge problem because women didn't have rights. Well times have changed. Women have the same freedoms as men do. So, if 10 women want to marry one guy, then go for it. If he can please them all, he is a better man than me.
Your religion has programmed you to want to control what other people do. even when the things you want to change doesn't hurt anybody.
This all amounts to basic human empathy with compassion. You know? The concept that I wouldn't want somebody doing it to me, so I won't do it to them.
That is the ONLY FUCKING RULE ON THIS PLANET THAT I FOLLOW!!! I don't follow the law. I could wipe my ass with paper that our laws are written on. I could wipe my ass with the original manuscript of the bible. I don't need a book to tell me how to live or what is right. If you need a book to help you figure out what your morals and ethics are, then you probably have no business telling other people what is right and wrong.
Do you want somebody telling you who you can and can't marry? Fuck no, man. So, stop doing it to other people.
So... you're gay, unable to marry your life partner, and this is okay with you.
Got it. I think?
Good idea. Say that rather than attempt to make the impossible argument that gays are being unfairly denied any right.
Consenting "adult humans" should be allowed to marry if if there are more than two involved. If a Man thinks he can handle 2 or 3 wives then more power to him, if a woman wants a few extra men around the house then she'd better marry a couple extra women to help with the nagging....I think it's about time we stopped making our policies based on outdated thinking conjoured by teachings of ancient scrolls from a time when people castrated lambs with their teeth......
Only if they are cute and post it on the internet
Hehehe...
You think I don't?
You're quite right. She could marry her owner's son of her own volition. I'm sure she wouldn't be forced into it under those circumstances.
Slavery is okay with God though, right? For men, 6 years max. For women, forever.
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Your question so too dumb to compute.
You can marry your "life partner" provided that person is of the opposite sex. Just as I can. No right is unfairly denied or unequally applied.
It is perfectly OK with me for a man to be unable to marry another man or woman:woman, you got it.
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you need to chill. you're really starting to get on my nerves with that bull shit programing argument. Even when we disagree i've enjoyed your posts because usually they contain valid points that need to be adressed. at the moment i think you need to go smoke a bowl and come back to regular scheduled programing.
no one here has yet to seriously adress the article i posted. yourself included. if you have an aguement against that then lets talk.
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Thanks genius. Continue to avoid the basic argument and spout off BS.
Yes it is, and you just said it: "provided that person is of the opposite sex".
Unless your idea of a life-partner is someone for whom you have no romantic interest (at which point, my condolences to your betrothed), I don't see what you are getting at.
You're quite right. She could marry her owner's son of her own volition. I'm sure she wouldn't be forced into it under those circumstances.
Slavery is okay with God though, right? For men, 6 years max. For women, forever.
all right, but before we get started recognise that I don't believe the word of God ended with the bible. I believe God still has guidence to us his children and as such continues to reveal his will to living prophets today as he did in biblical times. because of things like pornography which is an issue today that wasn't 2,000 years ago. God is not silenced.
To begin it's going to be hard to use the old testament or old covenant. when Jesus fulfilled the law of moses and gave us the new testament or new covenant. Jesus gave us the higher law. With new revelation Jesus expects us to follow higher standards now than he did the people of moses.
but this isn't anything new to you. you live and follow the bible. right?
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Finally, something we can agree on in this thread.
If I seem harsh, it is because I have people in my life that I love very much that are being discriminated against. The owner of the business I work for has treated me like a son for the past 5 years. I have learned more about life from him than my own dad. He is hands down, the most giving, forgiving, and compassionate person I have ever met. His life partner is 70. They have been in a monogamous relationship for over 50 years. T
If anybody deserves to be married, they do.
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Bla bla bla. I'm arguing with an emotionless machine. I need to have my head examined.
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Brogers doesn't understand because it requires basic human emotions to grasp what life partner means.
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
And I'm sure they have experienced quite a few difficulties because of it.
I commend their commitment to each other. that is impressive. What would a marriage certificate do to change their lives?
The same things it will do for a strait couple.
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Built already said what I was going to say.
and now we are back to the effects upon society as a reason for denying them a marriage certificate.
I have no problems giving POA for things.
