can someone please help me with pct for sust 500/wk

[mattymo2710]

hey whats going on everyone im 22 yrs old been training for 3 years and hit a peak i cant get past ive been researching a lot and im going with sust 250 2x a week mon and thurs for 10 weeks just im lost when it comes to pct nolvadex, clomid, hcg, arimidex? i dont want ball shrinking or saggy tits and im not trying to save $ this is my body and if its gna be expensive it is what it is im not gna risk my health to save a buck can someone help me out with pct thanks

 

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http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/anabolic-zone/104658-first-cycle-pct.html

 

[mattymo2710]

how do i start one ppl can reply to ive nevr used this

 

[keith1569]

There are some good pct stickys at the top. But running nova at 40/40/20/20 should be sufficient after
Your last shot clears

 

[DEE151]

since your only taking sust, just clom and nolva would be good.
start your pct 18 days after last injection

clom 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

first 2wks of clom at 100mcg then the next 2wks at 50mcg
first 2wks of nolva 40mcg then the next 2wks at 20mcg

 

[mattymo2710]

and the clomid and nova is that to be taken once a week

 

[keith1569]

Bumb what dee151 said. I dont think clomid is necessary but it def won't hurt

 

[keith1569]

The nolva and clomid are taken daily for 4 weeks total

 

[VictorZ06]

Clomid alone with your AI works fine. No need to run nolva and lower your GH and IGF levels.

4 weeks clomid therapy: 100/100/75/50 Day 1 & 2, take 200mg. Do not use HCG during PCT.




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[DEE151]

since your only taking sust, just clom and nolva would be good.
start your pct 18 days after last injection
wks 1/ 2/ 3/ 4
clom 100/100/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20

first 2wks of clom at 100mcg then the next 2wks at 50mcg
first 2wks of nolva 40mcg then the next 2wks at 20mcg

and the clomid and nova is that to be taken once a week

take a look at how i set it up for U. you take it for 4wks every day

 

[mattymo2710]

should i take hcg during the the cycle at all and with clomid that prevents saggy tits bc thats the worst thing if the nuts shrink a lil thats alright as long as they still shoot a loud

 

[VictorZ06]

I'm tellin ya, drop the nolva....it's too much, especially for a cycle that consists of only a 1/2gr of sust a week. Clomid and your AI, that's it for PCT.



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[DEE151]

bro if you going to cycle start getting use to your nuts shrinking thats part of the game. I have done 6 cycle and I am on my 7th right now. and I just had a baby boy today born at 12:08pm as long as I can have a kid I am g2g. this is my first kid at the age of 29.

 

[VictorZ06]

should i take hcg during the the cycle at all and with clomid that prevents saggy tits bc thats the worst thing if the nuts shrink a lil thats alright as long as they still shoot a loud

Start taking the HCG 2 weeks into your cycle. So yes, during your cycle. Stop taking it before you begin PCT. Don't use the clomid during your cycle if that's your question.



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(porn stars use clomid to perform larger ejaculations for the camera)

 

[VictorZ06]

bro if you going to cycle start getting use to your nuts shrinking thats part of the game. I have done 6 cycle and I am on my 7th right now. and I just had a baby boy today born at 12:08pm as long as I can have a kid I am g2g. this is my first kid at the age of 29.

My nuts don't shrink because I use HCG during my cycles. Congrats on your new addition to the family. God bless!



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[mattymo2710]

alright sounds good thanks guys.....victor what you mean by ai?...and another ? ive read that your sex drive decreases is that true what kind of side effects should i expect on a sust only cycle at 500 a week

 

[mattymo2710]

yes congrats on the baby there great im act in nc right now visitign ym sister who had hers last week there awesome

 

[mattymo2710]

victor whatd you mean by ai before and can you gibe me a sample of how hcg should be taken with the cycle im going to do

 

[keith1569]

I personally prefer clomid over nolva

I just do 50/50/25/25
So 50mg week 1 and 2
Then 25mg week 3 and 4

 

[VictorZ06]

victor whatd you mean by ai before and can you gibe me a sample of how hcg should be taken with the cycle im going to do

You should read the stickies, all these questions are answered within. Your sex drive should elevate, toss in some proviron and libido won't be an issue.

An "AI" is an aromatase inhibitor. There are several kinds....some work better than others. I believe every cycle should include an AI.

As for your HCG....start on week 2 of your cycle and stop it before PCT. Some guys use 500iu EW, others use 1000iu EW. You are running a light cycle so 500iu (250iu 2X wk) should suffice.


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[mattymo2710]

can i shoot the hcg on the same day as the sust and if so can i put them in the same pin

 

[VictorZ06]

can i shoot the hcg on the same day as the sust and if so can i put them in the same pin

Your sust is oil based, the HCG will be water based. You can mix the two together, but I do not recommend this method.

You take one shot of HCG on Mon and the second on Thurs. You want to take it via sub-q, not IM....although IM works, why jab yet another pin in your muscle when you don't have to. Sub-q shots are painless and ever so easy and quick to do.



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[mattymo2710]

bro i hate to sound like a retard but im new to this sub-q,im? can you explain it better and whats your recommendation

 

[GMO]

Clomid alone with your AI works fine. No need to run nolva and lower your GH and IGF levels.

4 weeks clomid therapy: 100/100/75/50 Day 1 & 2, take 200mg. Do not use HCG during PCT.




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This is good advice^^^

 

[cutright]

bro i hate to sound like a retard but im new to this sub-q,im? can you explain it better and whats your recommendation

Sub q =subcutaneous tissue (fat) basically.
IM = intramuscular ..needle goes into the muscle so does the substance..in sub q the muscle is not penetrated.

This is accomplished by picking your injection site and needle length
For sub q pinch an inch of skin beside your naval and pin in that 1/2 29g

IM pick a big muscle group stick a 1" 23g or 25g all the way into the muscle.


Hope this helps bro^^^^^^!

 

[VictorZ06]

Sub q =subcutaneous tissue (fat) basically.
IM = intramuscular ..needle goes into the muscle so does the substance..in sub q the muscle is not penetrated.

This is accomplished by picking your injection site and needle length
For sub q pinch an inch of skin beside your naval and pin in that 1/2 29g

IM pick a big muscle group stick a 1" 23g or 25g all the way into the muscle.


Hope this helps bro^^^^^^!

Thanks Cut.



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[TGB1987]

For an AI I would recommend Aromasin for PCT. Follow everything that victor said and you will be fine. For the aromasin take it with you clomid as vict suggested. Aromasin should be dosed at 25mg wk1/25mg wk2/25mg wk3/12.5mg wk4 . Good luck and next time you should of asked these questions before your cycle. You never start a cycle without having everything you need.

 

[SloppyJ]

Just reading over this thread I think you should do some more research before you start.

For an AI, like TGB said, Aromasin is perfered. This should be ran through the cycle AND PCT.

 

[VictorZ06]

Just reading over this thread I think you should do some more research before you start.

For an AI, like TGB said, Aromasin is perfered. This should be ran through the cycle AND PCT.

+1....some actually start the AI a week earlier than their cycle.



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[keith1569]

when i take clomid at 100mg or even 200mg the first few days i can definately feel the emotions start up in me ha