2nd cycle (bulk up)

[free2speed]

Stats 5'5 24yr 173lbs approx 13% BF
Goal-190-200lbs
Ok guys im getting ready for my second cycle. My first consisted of just 500mg test e(which i got some nice results). I was thinking of adding an oral to my second like dbol but then again, I hear really alot of bad sides towards it. On my first, I didnt really get any sides besides oily skin. Can u guys assist me on what you think my second cycle should consist of in order to bulk and aswell as a PCT?

 

[longworthb]

if you did well on test alone then I'd throw in a oral kicker like dbol. just make sure you have an ai on hand. run it at 50mg a day for 4 weeks so something like this
1-10 test e 500-750 a week
1-4dbol 50mg ed split in morning and pre workout.
aromasin at 12.5 mg ed throughout your cycle and you won't have a lot of bloat or estro sides
with a simple cycle without really harsh compounds just run a 4 week pct with clomid. I don't see a need for hcg.

 

[free2speed]

if you did well on test alone then I'd throw in a oral kicker like dbol. just make sure you have an ai on hand. run it at 50mg a day for 4 weeks so something like this
1-10 test e 500-750 a week
1-4dbol 50mg ed split in morning and pre workout.
aromasin at 12.5 mg ed throughout your cycle and you won't have a lot of bloat or estro sides
with a simple cycle without really harsh compounds just run a 4 week pct with clomid. I don't see a need for hcg.

Awesome!...have u personally taken any dbol? If so, how was your experience

 

[longworthb]

I actually just got done with running some for 4 weeks. they were genshi. I personally love dbol. they give you sick pumps in the gym plus I consider them the anti depressant of steroids. they always give me that good feeling. only thing you have to watch is the water weight gain and gyno which is why you want to run your ai. I've never gotten any gyno at all from dbol but I.always run an ai and some people are just more prone to it

 

[Hell]

Test/Deca
or
Test/NPP
Either with a test prop kickstart as I dont like orals also

Standard PCT

 

[OnceWasFat]

Test/Deca + Dbol kick start is a classic bulker.

Good luck.

 

[Dath]

Test/Deca + Dbol kick start is a classic bulker.

Good luck.

Tried and true

 

[Digitalash]

I actually just got done with running some for 4 weeks. they were genshi. I personally love dbol. they give you sick pumps in the gym plus I consider them the anti depressant of steroids. they always give me that good feeling. only thing you have to watch is the water weight gain and gyno which is why you want to run your ai. I've never gotten any gyno at all from dbol but I.always run an ai and some people are just more prone to it

I loved genshi dbol, also used opiox and didn't think they were as good. Dbol makes you feel awesome though and the pumps are unreal, use plenty of AI though. I didn't really like deca but I guess it did help my joints a bit. Next bulk cycle I run will probably just be test E/dbol at higher dosages than before. Maybe some suspension preworkout and finish with 6 weeks of tren

 

[free2speed]

looking into deca now because I do have a shoulder thats been bothering me a bit lately. Did you guys get any other side besides bloat and high bp from the dbol? Thanks for all your input, its making me at ease with dbol.

 

[Digitalash]

I gained some water weight on dbol but to be honest it felt like it was all in the muscle, I looked real good by the end of the four weeks I ran it (for me anyway). I was using like .25mg a-dex ED and my diet/water intake were good which I think helps alot. Strength jumped quick and I felt awesome, definitely one of my favorites and can't be beat for the cost IMO.

 

[jauron]

might want to run some milk thistle with the d-bol to help your liver

 

[bdeljoose]

I sweat alot on d-bol. Also bloat.

 

[GMO]

Test/deca/dbol is a classic bulker and the best IMO.

Run it like this:

Wk 1-8 Test E 500mg/wk
Wk 8-12 Test E 750mg/wk
Wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
Wk 1-6 Dbol 30-40mg ED
Wk 1-12 Adex 0.5mg eod or Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Wk 1-10 Caber 0.5mg x2/wk
Wk 1-12 HCG 500iu x2/wk
Wk 13-14 HCG 1000iu eod while test ester clears

PCT:

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

 

[Anabolic5150]

Listen to GMO, he knows what he's talking about 100%.

 

[Dath]

Listen to GMO, he knows what he's talking about 100%.

^^^x2

 

[pieguy]

Dbol gave me unbelievable pumps and strength gains, but I got a lot of bloat from it too. Even with heavy AI usage, I had a slightly puffy face at all times of the day from the water retention. It was definitely worth it however as I gained a significant amount of mass when combined with dbol and tren. Great stuff I will always be using in bulkers.

 

[longworthb]

u could also run npp at 100 eod if u don't wanna wait on the long eater to kick in but if your using dbol as a kicker it really doesn't matter

 

[dav1dg90]

Test/deca/dbol is a classic bulker and the best IMO.

Run it like this:

Wk 1-8 Test E 500mg/wk
Wk 8-12 Test E 750mg/wk
Wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
Wk 1-6 Dbol 30-40mg ED
Wk 1-12 Adex 0.5mg eod or Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Wk 1-10 Caber 0.5mg x2/wk
Wk 1-12 HCG 500iu x2/wk
Wk 13-14 HCG 1000iu eod while test ester clears

PCT:

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

I like the way you think GMO LOL!!! OP you will be HUGE after that cycle if done right. Listen to GMO and you will make your goals.

 

[FordFan]

Test/deca/dbol is a classic bulker and the best IMO.

Run it like this:

Wk 1-8 Test E 500mg/wk
Wk 8-12 Test E 750mg/wk
Wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
Wk 1-6 Dbol 30-40mg ED
Wk 1-12 Adex 0.5mg eod or Aromasin 12.5mg ED
Wk 1-10 Caber 0.5mg x2/wk
Wk 1-12 HCG 500iu x2/wk
Wk 13-14 HCG 1000iu eod while test ester clears

PCT:

Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5

Go with this bud!!! The man has it laid out. Do it, eat, train and take advantage of it. You WILL grow off of the above cycle.

 

[dav1dg90]

One more thing LOL!!! If you DON'T grow on Test/Deca/D-Bol you WON'T grow on ANYTHING!!

 

[free2speed]

One more thing LOL!!! If you DON'T grow on Test/Deca/D-Bol you WON'T grow on ANYTHING!!

lmao

 

[free2speed]

thanks guys! I'm going go read on HCG a bit more and then start looking for the missing ingredients on GMO's cycle

 

[longworthb]

that's deff the way to go bro. good luck and keep us updated throughout your cycle

 

[Anabolic5150]

Just remember, if you don't eat enough or don't train hard enough, all the gear in the world won't make you grow.

 

[Boomer182]

exactly eat eat eat and work out hard every day. I have lived by this and seen good results.