Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

[Ichigo]

I was born into Catholicism, i have two Aunts who are nuns. I went to Catholic school for the first 9 years of my education and deep down inside i never ever believed Jesus was real or that he even existed in the first place. Thats why i find this so interesting. If my mom or aunts ever see this they will invoke the wrath of GOD and kick my ass!

What ive become to understand is the Pagan Roman Emperor " forgot his name" created Catholicism, the Church and the Pope. "You know like how black jebus Obumma created the fourth branch of government." Its also fact the new testament was written around 100 years after zombie jebus died and its also fact that all of the miracles he performed were already done and were attributed to other prophets.

 

[SheriV]

Pretty interesting theory. Funny that the "false" religion these aristocrats created grew so much as to end up taking over control of the Roman Empire long after conventional methods of Roman war actually suppressed the Jewish State of Rebellion. Can this author point to any other cultures the Romans used a false religion to subdue? All the history books I've read state the Romans were generally tolerant of other religions. Pretty interesting this guy is trying to rewrite history the way his is. should make for an interesting if not worthless conversation piece

actually this is what I was responding to...but clearly you're superior at debate than I am


but phew, thank god you took the sting out! It would have probably have just ruined my day poor thing that I am.


??jackass

 

[Christsean]

I guess the Roman government failed in their plan to pacify the Jews with Jesus considering the Jews hate Jesus and the Romans had to destroy the Jewish temple in AD 70 because they couldn't control them.

The man Jesus lived not just in the bible, but in many historical writings of the time. Now what you believe about the man Jesus is entirely up to the individual. But any and every credible historian and scholar does not refute Jesus lived from then until now. Do they believe he was the son of God, not necessarily.

 

[maniclion]

I always thought white man created jebus

Nah, it was the Roman mafia in 34 BC.

Same tactic J. Edgar and friends used to create the Hippie culture (they used the outspoken and very rebellious Beats as a scaffold to mold a whole generation into what they wanted) to cultivate pacifists and the drug culture to keep the baby boomers that out numbered them calm and also bank on the massive amount of cash they threw at drugs. Imagine the 60's revolution if all those kids had become Weathermen or Black Panthers or Hells Angels. They had to take out Morrison and Hendrix because they were starting to stir up rebellion. Dylan escaped because his messages were too cryptic for them.

They saw The Wild Ones, Rebel Without a Cause and super slacker pseudo-beat Maynard from Dobie Gillis and they used the latter as a template to avoid a boom generation of the first 2....

 

[bio-chem]

actually this is what I was responding to...but clearly you're superior at debate than I am
but phew, thank god you took the sting out! It would have probably have just ruined my day poor thing that I am.
??jackass

exactly, and as I am superior in debate than you are I pointed out how what you responded to was ridiculous. The Pagan Roman Empire when it conquered a people largely left the culture and religion intact. This is well documented and something an 8th grader could tell you. You pointing out the crusades which happened over a thousand years later is completely unrelated both to the topic at hand, and my question, as the Holy Roman Empire is completely different and unrelated other than geography. The funny part is you telling me I should step out of the conversation when you really don't have a clue what you are talking about.

I'm glad that an internet post pointing out your mistake wouldn't ruin your day. You seem like a pretty decent person. I don't think it should ruin your day as we all make boneheaded mistakes and i don't think yours was particularly worth more than a quick hip check. I don't have anything against you, and I didn't want to come off as too much a jack ass in my response. Kelju and I enjoy a healthy debate, and a good internet bashing is justified now and then for the particularly retarded. Kelju was just commenting that sometimes I'm a bit harsher in my response when someone makes a mistake.

 

[Little Wing]

i don't really see how any rational person can NOT think all the god stories of every religion are just made up. i understand the hope they are true but not the hook, line, and sinker belief. i also doubt very much the intent of it all was some dark motive. i think these stories began as a comfort and aid.... later on they got used for power and profit.

 

[LAM]

I always thought white man created jebus

it sounds exactly like what it is, bullshit and that was my impression of Christianity when I was about 8 sitting in church, now at almost 50 I just have to laugh and chuckle at all this religious nonsense.

 

[LAM]

Hey, what's a thousand years here or there.

or 4-5 billion? I mean that's close to 6,000 right...LOL

 

[Arnold]

I don't need a book, stories or religion to have morals and ethics, but sheep do. So I guess religion has some sort of purpose, although a shitty one.
And yes religion was created by royalty to control the pheasants, u were either super rich or super poor. They had to instill the "fear of god" in people so they would behave and accept that they were peons.

www.IronMagLabs.com

 

[Little Wing]

 

[Dale Mabry]

I think it's fairly obvious to anyone who's taken basic biology and understands it that the bible was completely made up. I mean, evolution by natural selection is the guiding tenet of biology. It would be like being a pilot but not believing in the concept of flight. To believe a book that states the world is 6000 years old and man was created in the image of God is to deny that evolution is real. That isn't to say that there is no God, just that the book is made up, obviously.

"Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution." -Theodosius Dobzhansky

 

[KelJu]

This is nothing new. So-called scholars have been doing this stuff for 2000 years. Check with some reputable scholars to see all the bullshit holes in it afterward. I have studied the historicity of Jesus for over 20 years and it is solid. Nothing could destabilize it. It is history.

I don't believe that. History is not accurate from 50 years ago. How do you expect history from 2000 years ago to be accurate? There is always a chance that records might be found that would completely change history.

 

[heckler7]

god is real, he told me so, you have to lift to get into heaven, I'll see you all in hell

 

[IronAddict]

All of us, every single human being has the voice of god in him. You ever in a situation where you had to stop & think about what you were about to do, think about the pros & cons ? And then miraculously you hear a voice saying don't do that you dumb shit!

It's called your conscience!

Someone who wanted to capitalize on your gullibility and make a mint said, "that was god".

 

[heckler7]

its harder to be good 7 days a week than just good on sunday

 

[blergs.]

Jesus WAS a real person! was killed! was a good person and helped heal many people( mostly with cannabis oils and other herbs) and helped people on the right path of enlightenment... SEE HERE> Cannabis and the Christ: Jesus used Marijuana | Cannabis Culture
http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/1998/01/02/Cannabis-and-Christ-Jesus-used-Marijuana
but he was not known as holy from birth!, was not made preggo to ?virgin mary? (BTW virgin meant ?pure? in old translation, not necessarily meaning no sex, funny how it was made to be that?), was same flesh and blood as me and you, just with more "awareness" he was more like the buddha of that area... he was killed due to greed and fear from the higher powers ( priests and governments under the guise of blasphemy?)

he was helping everyone and trying to get people to open their minds... helping heal with oils and herbs that was normally for the rich that would go see the priests for it? that does not go well with population control...
"I am the son of god" ok... he also says "we are all sons and daughters of god" but its funny how they pick to make it like ONLY HE is the holy one.. we all have the power/chance to become enlightened beings... he was only of a few early ones that were noted in history... like Ghandi, Dali lama, Buddha and so on..

I NEVER understood how ANYONE could fallow the "new testament" let alone the old construed and rewritten "old testament" !! and i was brought up roman catholic and lets just say even my grandma has a holy water think on the wall when you enter the front door... So I was brought up ?holy? but I have the IQ to see how much bullshit is in there. ?GOD? would really be so simple? It is not a fat guy on a could watching us. Merely (to me) the/a life force?. I belive in ?God? but not the primitive one spoken of in the ?holy book? for god fearing people to use and for them to ?behave??

lets not forget the nagmati scrolls recently found? that contradict the bible left and right?... id say 99% of Jesus's REAL teachings have now been lost ( atleast to general public)

hey you want a good read/ listen? "the third Jesus" by deepkack chopra is very good... kinda mentions how alot of his teachings were ( likely intentionally) misinterpreted along with outright changed or taken away!
There was some momentum started by him in his name... then it was taken over by greed and for power over the people.. IMO?. very sad really.

Here is link to "the third Jesus" > The Third Jesus: The Christ We Cannot Ignore | The Chopra Center
I have the whole thing on audio book its 111MB, pm me and ill try to email it if it fits.... not sure if file it too big but ill try. Or look for it in torrents/download sites? the one I used it is not there right now.

 

[blergs.]

I don't believe that. History is not accurate from 50 years ago. How do you expect history from 2000 years ago to be accurate? There is always a chance that records might be found that would completely change history.

YEP!!

not JESUS's writting BUT still seems more likely to be more truth in the few scrolls then the whole "holy book" > Nag Hammadi library - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nag Hammadi library - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[blergs.]

I always thought white man created jebus

No, white man made Jesus white.... but we was likely brown ( middle eastern)... not white.... but when you are controlling the minds of your population and they are white for the most part......

 

[blergs.]

i have never been able to make sense of the concept of a religion. It just doesnt make sense to me. It has always made sense to me that people manipulate the truth for a hidden agenda. And in a time when society didnt have a punishment system a elaborate story about higher being that may punish you for inherently incorrect acts might establish some control.

agreed!!!

 

[OfficerFarva]

Jesus WAS a real person! was killed! was a good person and helped heal many people( mostly with cannabis oils and other herbs) and helped people on the right path of enlightenment... SEE HERE> Cannabis and the Christ: Jesus used Marijuana | Cannabis Culture
http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/1998/01/02/Cannabis-and-Christ-Jesus-used-Marijuana
but he was not known as holy from birth!, was not made preggo to ?virgin mary? (BTW virgin meant ?pure? in old translation, not necessarily meaning no sex, funny how it was made to be that?), was same flesh and blood as me and you, just with more "awareness" he was more like the buddha of that area... he was killed due to greed and fear from the higher powers ( priests and governments under the guise of blasphemy?)

he was helping everyone and trying to get people to open their minds... helping heal with oils and herbs that was normally for the rich that would go see the priests for it? that does not go well with population control...
"I am the son of god" ok... he also says "we are all sons and daughters of god" but its funny how they pick to make it like ONLY HE is the holy one.. we all have the power/chance to become enlightened beings... he was only of a few early ones that were noted in history... like Ghandi, Dali lama, Buddha and so on..

I NEVER understood how ANYONE could fallow the "new testament" let alone the old construed and rewritten "old testament" !! and i was brought up roman catholic and lets just say even my grandma has a holy water think on the wall when you enter the front door... So I was brought up ?holy? but I have the IQ to see how much bullshit is in there. ?GOD? would really be so simple? It is not a fat guy on a could watching us. Merely (to me) the/a life force?. I belive in ?God? but not the primitive one spoken of in the ?holy book? for god fearing people to use and for them to ?behave??

lets not forget the nagmati scrolls recently found? that contradict the bible left and right?... id say 99% of Jesus's REAL teachings have now been lost ( atleast to general public)

hey you want a good read/ listen? "the third Jesus" by deepkack chopra is very good... kinda mentions how alot of his teachings were ( likely intentionally) misinterpreted along with outright changed or taken away!
There was some momentum started by him in his name... then it was taken over by greed and for power over the people.. IMO?. very sad really.

Here is link to "the third Jesus" > The Third Jesus: The Christ We Cannot Ignore | The Chopra Center
I have the whole thing on audio book its 111MB, pm me and ill try to email it if it fits.... not sure if file it too big but ill try. Or look for it in torrents/download sites? the one I used it is not there right now.

These kinds of posts make me wonder how you became a mod here twice, do you pay prince monthly or was it just a lump sum payment?

 

[blergs.]

Of coarse man created jesus and god in his own image. Why else would he be so hateful, vengeful, bigoted, greedy and a warmonger etc...

All you had to do is read the sumerian texts to figure that out. Enkei and Enlil and Anu all the same shit all over the world, for thousands of years before us....just the names change.

I tell you, I've a feeling somethings coming down the pipe, why else are they revealing all this shit now. Everything you were taught was a lie!

And some people tried to tell you's....!

Yep, there is a new era coming and sadly many that feel the safest are the ones living in ignorant bliss that will have their world shaken... religion will be a big issue for some... needing to admit they were following word for word something that was not fact.. was not truth... was miss-interpreted at best...
here is a nice book i liked, got it on audio also>
site> Eckhart Tolle TV | Books - New Earth the power of now is also VERY good.
link to audio> http://kickass.to/a-new-earth-eckhart-tolle-audiobook-unabridged-t80421.html#comments_tab

 

[blergs.]

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[heckler7]

I'm developing a new line of gear made with the purest of holy oils blessed by a real Rabbi to give you the power of Christ and Tren, don't go to the after life pale and unjerked get massive. Don't forget to stack IML's Halo Xtreme you'll need those too in the after life too

 

[SheriV]

will this be good for the ladies too?

 

[heckler7]

there will be a blend of var/Viagra/ cocaine to make woman shredded horny and bang all nite

 

[SheriV]

I'm in...I love all of those things!...errrrrr, hear they're all good

 

[Little Wing]

i always suspected the turning water into wine thing involved hallucinogens. mushrooms and wine are awesome but would work with water almost as well.

whether religion is true or not is far more complicated than purely whether god is real or not. with concrete proof all gods were created from the mind of man it could turn into "these are the beliefs and lessons of my forefathers... ideals i strive to live my life by and in doing so honor my heritage"

... it doesn't have to be true to be loved or valuable. no proof will make it just go away. if the sky opened up and god revealed himself all we would get is people telling us for centuries to come how the trick was done. people are stubborn.

 

[jagbender]

Getting back, the evolutionist believes the evolutionary cycle is never ending, but they too cannot explain why according to their Darwin inspired calculations that there has been no new species recorded for hundreds of millions of years, let alone the true 6000 years as reality dictates.
They also state it takes billions of years for each animal, insect or plant to evolve. If that's true, why do we have termites? Termites eat wood but can't digest it. In their intestines are smaller insects that digest the cellulose the termites place in there for them. Kind of like the worm inside the cricket. The termite can't exist without the smaller insect, and the smaller insect can't live without the termite. If evolution is true neither insect should be on this planet.

Moving right along we have the big bang theory which declares a spinning dot of absolutely nothing exploded to form all the planets, stars, asteroids, black holes, quasars, nova?s, and primordial soup found on earth. According to the scientific discovery called, ?conservation of angular momentum?, which actually means, if what?s spinning in a clockwise manner explodes, everything flying off of it will explode in the exact same manner. That being the case, why is it 2 planets, and numerous moons orbiting many planets in our galaxy alone spin in a different direction than all the others. If their big bang theory was true, why is it those planets and moons appear to have come off of a different explosion? Were there two big bangs?

 

[jagbender]

Prove Evolution Is False - Even Without the Bible


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article by Mario Seiglie

There are logical reasons apart from Scripture's direct testimony to reject the theory of evolution and accept creation and a Creator.

trilobite fossil

Source: Photos.com
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Can we prove that evolution is false without using the Bible? Certainly we can! Evolution is a scientific theory that stands or falls on the physical evidence. In fact, one can be an atheist, a person who doesn't believe in God, and still not believe in evolution!
Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, as taught at school, is a biological explanation of how creatures have supposedly "evolved" or developed progressively through natural selection and variation (now known as mutation) over eons of time from the tiny cell to the largest creatures on earth today. What is taught in classrooms is not mere microevolution?small changes within a species?but macro evolution, the change from one type of creature to another quite distinct life form.
What many evolutionists are trying to convince you of is that there is no need for a Creator since, as they say, evolution can substitute as the mechanism for creating and transforming life. They teach that life arose from non-life and evolved from simpler creatures to more complex life forms. In other words, the tiny cell eventually became an amoeba, then a lizard, then a monkey, and finally? you !
In order to remember key points that disprove Darwinian evolution?the "molecules to man" theory?we'll use the acronym FALSE. (A few of these points also disprove the compromise of theistic evolution?the notion that God employed macroevolution over eons in forming the creatures we see on earth today.)
F for Fossils

A fossil is the preserved remains of a living thing. The fossil record around the earth extends an average of one mile deep. Below this level we come up with a blank slate as far as living, complex creatures are concerned.
I collect fossils of what are deemed the earliest type of complex creatures with hard bodies?trilobites. No previous ancestors of these arthropods have been found. Similar to some marine "bugs" we see today on the seashore that disappear into the sand when the waves retreat, trilobites had hard shells, all the basic organs, and complex eyes like those of flies, with hundreds of sophisticated lenses connected to the optic nerve going to the brain. Trilobite fossils are found around the earth, and in all cases the level of rock beneath them does not reveal other creatures with similar features.
As one source states: "The dominant life form was the now-extinct sea creature known as a trilobite, up to a foot long, with a distinctive head and tail, a body made up of several parts, and a complex respiratory system. But although there are many places on earth where 5,000 feet of sedimentary rock stretch unbroken and uniformly beneath the Cambrian [layer], not a single indisputable multi-celled fossil has been found there. It is 'the enigma of paleontological [fossil studies] enigmas,' according to Stephen Gould. Darwin himself said he could give 'no satisfactory answer' to why no fossils had been discovered. Today's scientists are none the wiser" (Francis Hitching, The Neck of the Giraffe , 1982, pp. 26-27).
Question: If, after almost two centuries of digging beneath all the world's continents, no previous ancestor of this first hard-bodied creature has been found, how then did the ubiquitous trilobite evolve? There should be some previous ancestor if evolution were true.
It's like finding an exquisite watch on the seashore and yet never finding any previous primitive models of the watch on earth. If you reasoned as an evolutionist, you would deny there was a need for a watchmaker at all, maintaining that time, water, sand, minerals and actions of the elements are sufficient to producing a fully functional watch that runs. This is part of the reason it takes more faith to believe in evolution than in a Creator!
Further important evidence from the fossil record is the absence of transitional forms between species. Darwin was concerned that the thousands of intermediate stages between creatures needed to prove his theory were not in evidence, but he expected they would eventually be found. Yet those thousands of missing transitional forms are still missing!
Another reference explains: "If throughout past ages life was actually drifting over in one continual stream from one form to another, it is to be expected that as many samples of the intermediate stages between species should be discovered in fossil condition as of the species themselves ? All should be in a state of flux. But these missing links are wanting. There are no fossils of creatures whose scales were changing into feathers or whose feet were changing into wings, no fossils of fish getting legs or of reptiles getting hair. The real task of the geological evolutionist is not to find 'the' missing link, as if there were only one. The task is to find those thousands upon thousands of missing links that connect the many fossil species with one another" (Byron Nelson, After Its Kind , 1970, pp. 60-62).
The absence of transitional forms is an insurmountable hurdle for theistic evolutionists as well. It also fits with our next point.
A for Assumption

When there is no real evidence, evolutionary scientists simply make assumptions.
If evolution were true, then where is the evidence of different types of animals now "evolving" into other types? Where is the evidence of cats, dogs and horses gradually turning into something else? We do see changes within species, but we do not see any changes into other species. And, as mentioned, we see no evidence of gradual change in the fossil record either. Yet evolutionists continue to assume that transitional forms must have existed.
In Darwin's landmark book On the Origin of Species there are some 800 subjective clauses, with uncertainty repeatedly admitted instead of proof. Words such as "could," "perhaps" and "possibly" plague the entire book.
Evolution is still called a theory?a possible explanation or assumption?because it is not testable according to the scientific method, as this would require thousands or millions of years. Evolutionists will counter that a theory is not a mere hypothesis but is a widely affirmed intellectual construct that generally appears to fit all the facts. Yet evolution in no way fits all the facts available. Evidence does not support it?and in many respects runs counter to it.
L for Life

The law of biogenesis as taught in biology class states that only life can produce life.
You've probably heard the famous question: Which came first, the chicken or the egg? It's a real dilemma for an evolutionist to answer. An egg comes from a chicken, yet the chicken comes from an egg. How can there be one without the other?
To complicate matters even more, the chicken has to come from a fertilized egg that has the mixture of two different genetic strains from both its parents. So the problem of the origin of life and initial reproduction is still a mystery that evolutionary science cannot adequately answer.
Yet for someone who believes in special creation by a Creator, there is no dilemma here. First God made the male and female chickens, which produced the first fertilized egg?and the rest is history.
S for Symbiosis

When one living thing needs another different living thing to survive, it's called a symbiotic relationship.
A good example of this is the relationship between bees and flowers. The bees need the nectar from some types of flowers to feed while these flowers need bees to pollinate them. Both depend on each other to exist and survive. The question for evolutionists is: How did these plants exist without the bees, and how did the bees exist without these plants?
Again, atheistic scientists are stumped. Theistic evolutionists are perplexed as well. Yet if you believe in a Creator who specially created the various forms of life on earth, the answer is simple?both were created at about the same time.
E for Engineering

All living things are exquisitely engineered or designed. Qualitatively, a bacterium is as majestically built for its purpose as a human body is for its function. Yet evolution says it's only an illusion of design?that there is no real designer behind it. Reality is not an illusion! Living things are multi-functional, which means they do many complex things at the same time, something evolution with its step-by-step process has never been able to demonstrate.
One example of a living thing with exquisite engineering is the tree. It provides breathable oxygen for us while processing carbon dioxide, which would in high amounts in the air be toxic to us. It supplies wood, housing for birds, roots to limit erosion, fruit and seeds to eat, is biodegradable and gives shade. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, "A healthy tree provides a cooling effect that is equivalent to 10 room-size air conditioners operating 20 hours a day." How could something so complex arise from a random, undirected evolutionary process?
Again, you need more "faith" to believe in blind evolution than in an all-knowing Creator who designed the marvelous tree in the first place.
Now you have five proofs that evolution is F-A-L-S-E and that special creation is true?and we didn't even use the Bible. Remember the acronym FALSE when you read or hear about evolution?and do take time to read our Creator's great book of truth! It has much to say regarding origins.

 

[jagbender]

[h=2]The Fossil Record[/h]If this big, ridiculous, idiotic lie, this complicated, fabricated framework of fiction called evolution were true, then there should be more missing links dug up than anything else! If there were billions of years of evolution, we'd be up to our ears in missing links!
Even Darwin realised this, and so said, "As by this theory innumerable transitional forms ("links") must have existed, why do we not find them embedded in countless numbers in the crust of the earth? ... The number of intermediate and transitional links between all living and extinct species must have been inconceivably great. He then answered his own question about these missing links by declaring: "I believe the answer lies in the (geological) record being incomparably less perfect than is generally supposed."
But now, 120 years later, Darwin's excuse is totally ridiculous! Literally hundreds of millions of fossils have been extracted from all fossil-bearing rock strata and none of them are "transitional forms" or missing links--they all obviously belong to a definite species! In fact, it is estimated that over 100,000 different, distinct species of fossils have been found! Yes, no "links"!
A.S. Romer, professor of zoology at Harvard University, recently summed up the present situation when he said:

"'Links' are missing just where we most fervently desire them, and it is all too probable that many 'links' will continue to be missing."​