LESLIE'S (aka FF) BULK

[w8lifter]

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
*control freak*



DP

Yes...I know you are

 

[Leslie]

11/27/01

Meal 1
1/2 c oats
1 tbsp cream w/ coffee
2 oz chicken
4 egg whites

Meal 2
Protein shake w/ banana

Meal 3
6 oz chicken
3/4 c rice
1 tbsp flax
veggies

Meal 4
protein shake w/ banana

CHEAT
2 fuqing butter cookies

Meal 5
4 oz top round
2 oz chicken
3/4 c rice
veggies

Meal 6
tuna
2 tsp flax
veggies

1 chocolate muncking pre w/o (BF MADE ME )
1 iced coffee w/ cream Pre w/
1 diet coke
4 packets sweetner

GYM was Back/bis/abs

 

[CLPgold]

Just checkin in late night. I gotta get my tired butt to bed before 1:00am hopefully tonight.

Good Night.

 

[Leslie]

Same here! (doesnt loook good though)

Good Night CLP

 

[Dr. Pain]

Re: 11/27/01

Originally posted by Leslie2196


CHEAT
2 fuqing butter cookies


1 chocolate muncking pre w/o (BF MADE ME )
1 iced coffee w/ cream Pre w/
1 diet coke
4 packets sweetner

WTF....is everyone out of control?
BF made me....good one Leslie.......


(need totals)



DP

 

[CLPgold]

Hi Leslie

 

[Leslie]

I am back, and more bloated.
These four days have been HELL with my meals, sleep, and relaxation. My dogs presented a big problem for a place to stay and late hours and not enough meals fuqed up my meal plans..not to mention the fuqing TRAFFIC getting home! I am on almost 3 hrs of sleep with NOTHING to do here at work. I am going to DIE

I did make the gym Fri so my workouts were complete. I also managed to get seriously PLASTERED on Saturday night~shots, vodka, apple martinis, and lord knows what else
Went to Ruth Chris Steakhouse for my 4 yr anniversary and now look at steak in a different light. It was the FUQING BOMB!!
I also thought I was getting engaged this weekend, but that didnt happen LOL

FUQ work, FUQ food,

I want coffee and my bed!!

 

[Dr. Pain]

Don't forget to weigh-in soon

DP

 

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Don't forget to weigh-in soon

DP

I am glad u are amused

And uh, I don't own a scale



Is it Tuesday tommorow already?! FUQ N A!:hopeless:

 

[Leslie]

Ok weigh in tonight. Probably wont be pretty. yesterday was a crappy day overall, worked all day on 3 hr sleep and cleaned my house~it looked like abomb went off~ and my meals were far and in between, not to mention the, oh well nevermind. It dont matter

Anyhoo, I got back my show pics (I really got to analyze myself-good and bad)and I am now refocused, again..I like the fact its a new month, a fresh start blah blah blah....I am thinking of doind the Hawaiin Tropic contest or another Figure contest depending on what happens to my body. There are no dates for either yet, but both will be springtime.....

800am
coffee w/ 1 tbsp cream
1/2 c cottage cheese
couple oz's? roasted Turkey breast
1 apple

1045am
2 scoops Designer
2 tbsp cream
1 banana






Totals 671 16F 58C 76P

 

[Leslie]

Ok my shake came out all watery n shit GRRRR AND most of my banana was all brown n mushy, so I only had 2/3............. Oh well
I had asked about 7 meals in a nother thread, but I will ask here also.....What are your thoughts on SEVEN meals??

 

[Twin Peak]

As opposed to six? Does it really matter one way or the other? Just go with what makes you feel better physically and emotionally. Nothing wrong with constant grazing.

 

[Leslie]

I don't know if the amount of meals is important..I guess the calories are....2300 cals is what I am going for.....I just find I am always looking to eat ( I am a pig I know) I have more of an appetite than my man Constant grazing would=more fuel for the metabolism correct?
Thanks TP
BTW, awesome quotes and how did you get your fitday link up? I tried but it only brings the homepage....

 

[Twin Peak]

You've got to make your journal public.

 

[Leslie]

Ah, Now I see

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=Leslie2196

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by Leslie2196
Ok my shake came out all watery n shit GRRRR AND most of my banana was all brown n mushy, so I only had 2/3............. Oh well
I had asked about 7 meals in a nother thread, but I will ask here also.....What are your thoughts on SEVEN meals??

Leslie...see w8's journals for info on 7 meals. We are trying to get her calories up by a seventh meal or a shake halfway through her "beauty sleep cycle"

For you...we don't even know where you are yet....., so w8...however...I can tell you that "constant grazing" is very much against the concepts of a "Clean Bulk"....where we are still trying to control your insulin/glucagon levels!

DP

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
I can tell you that "constant grazing" is very much against the concepts of a "Clean Bulk"....where we are still trying to control your insulin/glucagon levels!

DP

DP, this is interesting, can you explain it further. How does it matter in a significant/real way, assuming that total calories are the same?

Assuming you point is that each time you eat carbs you are effecting metabolism and various hormone levels, doesn't your point disappear if the added grazing is merely on non-carb items?

 

[Leslie]

and also.....

I figured the totals for the womans bulk.......it comes to:

2270 cals 215P 90F 150C PLUS the biweekly Carb Up

I guess I should work with this or should I bump something a lil up since I am a big gal?? HELP PLEASE

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
DP, this is interesting, can you explain it further. How does it matter in a significant/real way, assuming that total calories are the same?

Assuming you point is that each time you eat carbs you are effecting metabolism and various hormone levels, doesn't your point disappear if the added grazing is merely on non-carb items?

We had some posting on this and some subsequent debates which I am not going through again.

Point is that Insulin is a "tiered response"......grazing would only serve to elvate insulin levels more and more (we also posted on the (glucogenic nature of protein). While we are not as concerned about the fact that lipolysis does not occur w/higher insulin levels as we are on cut. We ARE concerned that lipogenesis does!

If you want to bulk "Cleanly" don't graze

(we also posted on gastic emptying, with much disagreement)

DP

 

[Twin Peak]

Hmmm, if by the use of WE you mean you and I, I must have been sleeping through those discussions/debates, cuz I don't remember hitting these specifc topics, and I don't even know what gastic emptying is so am surprised to learn that I disagreed with your views on it.

Oh well. I was not looking to be a pain in the ass with this inquiry.

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by Leslie2196
and also.....

I figured the totals for the womans bulk.......it comes to:

2270 cals 215P 90F 150C PLUS the biweekly Carb Up

I guess I should work with this or should I bump something a lil up since I am a big gal?? HELP PLEASE

Leslie Calm th FUCK down!

We know you are a planner....but we don't know whether you are on the Ass Train or the Butt Train until we get your BW.......


and you don't want any part of the C Train!

DP

 

[Dr. Pain]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Hmmm, if by the use of WE you mean you and I, I must have been sleeping through those discussions/debates, cuz I don't remember hitting these specifc topics, and I don't even know what gastic emptying is so am surprised to learn that I disagreed with your views on it.

Oh well. I was not looking to be a pain in the ass with this inquiry.

Sorry for the tone, "We" is the proverbial "Collective WE".....and the tone was aimed at those who love/live to argue. I was still trying to be imformative.....

I apologize...and should further clarify that information applies more to the 3 out of 4 IR (insulin resitant) people out there as opposed to those with what clinicians would call "normal" metabolisms. (becoming 4 out of 5)

DP

 

[Dr. Pain]

Additionally...the inference was that it was part of "Public Record!"

DP

 

[Twin Peak]

That's fine, and I was picking up on the tone. I know that you were referring to people the like to argue for arguments sake. Actually, that is what I took issue with since I don't believe I am one of those people and further don't believe that I have conducted myself that way, so I was displeased with the thought that you believed I was currently acting that way.

I'm over it.

 

[Leslie]

Moving along.........

12/3/02

800am
coffee w/ 1 tbsp cream
1/2 c cottage cheese
couple oz's? roasted Turkey breast
1 apple

1045am
2 scoops Designer
2 tbsp cream
1/2 banana

130pm
3 oz chicken (wt cooked)
1/3 c lean ground beef
1 c brown rice
1 tsp flax
1 c green beans w/ ACV

430pm
1 can tuna
1 tbsp flax
green beans w/ ACV

730pm
6 oz cooked chicken
1 tbsp flax
6-7 oz Sweet Potato
green beans w/ ACV

1030pm
4 oz cooked top sirloin (lean)
3 egg whites and 2 whole eggs
green beans w/ ACV

Totals:
2370 cals 79F 155C 242P

Well?

 

[Leslie]

SO far so good.....

No cravings either....suprisingly.
I think I am FINALLY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Dr. Pain]

Program looks Good Leslie.........now how much do you weigh? :FF:..err..


DP

 

[Leslie]

Ok I had an apple post workout..I was STARVING after my meal

Weighed in at 158-158.5

 

[Dr. Pain]

You're on Track Leslie........give it a few more days...and take a midweek w8.......we can up your intake then if we need to.

DP

 

[Leslie]

OK

Even if you are bullshitting me, I feel a lil better LOL
Due to my previous high carb intake......do you think I should do my first carb up on Saturday considering my first FULL day of clean eatting was yesterday?

Thx DP