Leslie's Journal

[Dante B.]

I'm very happy to hear that everything is working out.

 

[hardasnails1973]

your just losing water weight can not loose that much fat in that short of time..Usually not till after 2 weeks fat loose actually starts. Muscle may have been loss too. just keep BCAAS going and they will preserve your mass when are a low carb diet. may want to add liver tabs for extra boosts..

 

[J'Bo]

han i think that is her goal...she wants to lose some muscle.

 

[hardasnails1973]

then do cardio before weight training would work really well IMO.

 

[Leslie]

Originally posted by hardasnails1973
then do cardio before weight training would work really well IMO.

I would not mind losing some muscle..but not THAT much

OK I promised I would update this thread with any changes. And well there are several. Biggies.

First off, I had my last glutton refeeds T-day (ate so much despite my supressed appetite due to ECA, I actually barfed in the early AM ) and Saturday, at my 5th Anniversary dinner. Fancy schmancy italian restuarant with plenty of bread and for the first time in years, an entree pasta dish Desserts were $12 a pop for corny pastries, so we skipped over to Cheesecake Factory Had Craig's Crazy Carrot Cheesecake and I vow to NEVER have another flavor of cheesecake again.
It was the absolute best dessert I have EVER had

Now for the changes:

*Coconut oil sucks. If I am going no carb, I want to at least enjoy the food I am having. I am only having 1 tbsp daily. Rest of fats will be from flax, fish oil, Newmans, PB, yolks and/or steak.

*Refeeds will be twice a week in the following manner:
....Tuesday~ One meal of whole wheat pasta and LF caramel popcorn until I am full. Will be working out this day, before refeed.
.....Saturday~ All day carbs- CKD style. Mostly bagels, pasta, rice, oats ect. One small, and I mean small, treat in the form of 2 cookies, or a small muffin ect.
I am doing this to teach myself some control when it comes to treats.

My refeeds that were free for all- while still produced results and measurement losses- were too mentally fuqqed up for me. It felt strange to binge on junk all day long and not too mention I would feel queasy after the first big sugar meal. I just function better mentally while refeeding more cleanly. Allowing a small treat is enough for me.

My workouts will be the same, working each part twice per week, as per Dante's plan. I am liking this schedule very much and plan to stick with it.

Thats all for now folks.

 

[Dante B.]

Glad everything is working out for you, Leslie.

 

[Leslie]

Thanks Dante Glad to see you in here

I did measurements this AM- and everything is down- depsite the bad Tday and Saturday. I am not supposed to do measurements til Saturday So I will not post them until then.

Also, your training program you suggetsed to me rocks! I just added 1 more set for shoulders and have been neglecting abs

The other thing is I have a new hobby...running I have ran many fast miles this week and its addicting. ECA alllows wonderful things on the tready I know it is breaking down my muscle already because my calves are down to 15".....To put it in perspective, my calves were 15 1/4 on both my competition days. They NEVER change much size- only varying between 15 14-15 1/2. I have big, bulky ugly calves anyway so I am happy to see them go down, but I am worried about the rest of my body since all the running has been done in the AM on an empty stomach. Should I consume soem whey and 10g dextrose beforehand? I really would like to keep the running since it will help strip down my legs and its fun.......Thanks

 

[nikegurl]

"it's fun"

are you ok Les? you're making me worry....

 

[aggies1ut]

Personally, I LOVE running and am aiming for a marathon someday. To each their own though.

 

[Leslie]

Yesterdays refeed went rather well. I did indulge in some cookies, but only a few. It could have been much worst.

Saturday refeed 5am-130am
Foods consumed:

Frosted Flakes with Skim milk
2 cookies
2 bagels with FF cream cheese
LF Graham Crackers
LF cheese Popcorn
1 Trioplex bar
Pasta with 1/2 c whipped cottage cheese
4 cookies
Baked Lays Sour Cream n Onion
Frosted Flakes with Skim milk

Hmm, not much protein in there

This morning's cardio went rather well due to the refeed I suppose. Ran my miles at faster speeds. Suprisingly I am satisfied mentally with carbs. I had no problems eatting my protein/fat only meals and have no desire for carbs today. Feels good

 

[Jill]

Thats a lot of food! It all sound so yummy though. Try plain cream cheese then jam on top of you bagles. It is to die for! Could I have a refeed some time while carb cycling ladies? No seriously.

 

[Jodi]

Could I have a refeed some time while carb cycling ladies? No seriously.

NO

 

[senimoni]

Any updates on your measurements?

:-( on the carb cycling refeeds

 

[Jodi]

senimoni - Leslie isn't using carb cycling right now.

 

[Leslie]

Right. My refeed was exactly what it shoudl have been
Well cept I should have only had 2 cookies:angel:

Measurements will be posted Tuesday morning

 

[senimoni]

Jodi, I know...I am...it was just wishful thinking, reading about all these refeeds

 

[Leslie]

Did some running this morning as well as yesterday morning. Tonight I will be back to weights,as I missed Saturdays w/o due to the snow. But it was Day 2, so my shoulders/tri's got worked a bit anyway.

Now for the unsettling news
I am particularly curious about tommorows measurements.I want to see what the hell is going on.
The scale has not moved much.(not really concerned as I know BW means shit) My butt and legs look smaller and feel tighter (rememebr calves are down for first time in my life) and yet my waist is looking blubbery. At least the lower circumfrence -ala male love handles.

This is strange for me as ususally my legs and butt remain "fatty" and my waist tightens up right away.
I dont know if the running is contributing to this gear switch of fat loss regions or I have somehow developed male pattern fat storage

 

[Jodi]

I have somehow developed male pattern fat storage

I did tell you my story about this didn't I?

 

[Leslie]

No

 

[Jodi]

I use to store all my fat in my thighs until I started training. Now you know where it all is

My body shifted over time. I look at it this way, you can cover ab fat with a shirt, its harder to cover up fat on butt and thighs.

Jeans show all

 

[Leslie]

Seriously?

I am not really upset about this as I would rather have leaner legs with some waist fat any day. I wonder if this is due to the increased test levels due to our heavy workouts?

Its very strange as I have never had a waist issue. Its not bad enough to be an "issue", but I can see/feel these changes occuring.....

 

[Jill]

Running is great- A few years ago I was addicted. I lost about 6 pounds, with no change in my diet. Who knows if it was fat or muscle. BUT, I totally fuc*** my knees up. Running is hard on your joints, be careful lady. How much are you up to daily with your eca stack? One more thing, cant wait to see your measurements tomorrow!

 

[Jodi]

Originally posted by Leslie
Seriously?

I am not really upset about this as I would rather have leaner legs with some waist fat any day. I wonder if this is due to the increased test levels due to our heavy workouts?

Its very strange as I have never had a waist issue. Its not bad enough to be an "issue", but I can see/feel these changes occuring.....

Yeah, I'm serious. I told TP and Dante about it and I can't remember exactly what they said but it was something on the lines of your body basically reforming. When I think about it, I had a COMPLETELY different shape before lifting. I had a flat ass Now I have a little bubble butt my legs where wide, I always had smaller hips but really fat legs. They slimmed down alot and have taken a completely different shape. I wish I could remember what they told me.

 

[atherjen]

Hey Les! good to see you here as well girl. glad to see your keeping a journal here too!

 

[Leslie]

Oh Lordy. Well I wish one of them would post something

Hi Jill
I know running is hard on the joints, I take plenty of tiem to stretch and stuff. I have been running 2 days on, 1 day off. So far its working without any pain.

I am up to 75mg ephedrine now. Sometimes I only take in 62.5mg if I awake later in the day. I don't plan on upping the dosage any further. I have been able to sleep most nights. I am finding the cardio is helping tremendously in tiring me out

Oh an d I am curious about the measurements too

 

[Leslie]

Originally posted by atherjen
Hey Les! good to see you here as well girl. glad to see your keeping a journal here too!

Hey

Yea I am everywhere
Didn't want to leave anyone out

 

[Jodi]

Cuz your such an Angel




I gave up my journal here

 

[Dante B.]

What supplements are you using again?

A natural increase in test (from a workout) will not lead to androgenic fat stores--certainly not that fast.

 

[Leslie]

Originally posted by Dante B.
What supplements are you using again?

Thanks for peeking in Dante

My supplements for the past few weeks:
*ECA stack
*ICE during workouts
*200mg 7KETO Dhea
*200mcg Selenium
Oh and 25 or so grams of dextrose after workouts...

Whats peculiar is my legs feel harder. And appear more shapely. But my waist, lower back sides to be exact, is gorss. I can grab a good ole chunk o skin there Never had this before. How can my legs seem to be improving and my wauist getting worse?

 

[Dante B.]

I'm ridiculously tired at the moment, so hopefully I'm not flying by something stupid (i.e. obvious).

Are you taking any new prescription drugs? Esp birth control products.

It's possible that you're losing muscle---but creating more definition (resting tension with heavier weight), perhaps taking in too many calories that you have less muscle to support.

Even with that, why your stomach is the first to be hit I don't know.

Are you absolutely certain that it's not water retention of any sort? For all of this to suddently happen, something isn't right.