Hey, i just want to make a point. Arnold built his chest using 20 plus sets of various exercises, while Dorian Yates built his using very low sets and reps, and very intense training. Point being that there is and always will be more than one way to achieve success in the gym. What im trying to get at is that when a lifter posts a question, Gopro posts his way, Action Mat or someone else posts there way, and the next 389 posts are a discussion about who is right, often leading waaaaaaaay off topic. Gopro and Matt are both know there shit, and im sure both methods work. All im tryin to say is that if the post is about building calves, then lets stick to building calves...Im not saying the arguments arent interesting, and informative, i just think that it gets dragged out a little. Anyway i value all opinions and look forward to more great info in the future...thanks