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I found it on PubMed, I'll try to dig it up if you want to read it.
 
Why?

Again, why?

the process of feeding throughout the day naturally causes insulin sensitivity in skeletal muscle to decrease as the day progresses. this is why insulin sensitivity is so high after fasting and in the am after sleeping. genetic variances, meal composition and the time of training are all some factors which would influence this.
 
the process of feeding throughout the day naturally causes insulin sensitivity in skeletal muscle to decrease as the day progresses. this is why insulin sensitivity is so high after fasting and in the am after sleeping. genetic variances, meal composition and the time of training are all some factors which would influence this.

What if you fast during the day and eat at night?
 
What if you fast during the day and eat at night?

insulin sensitivity would still be high since skeletal muscle would not have been de-sensitized to effects from feeding through out the day.
 
nothing wrong with eating at night but at night you won't to make the best food choices possible. if you are dieting down then at night most foods consumed should be proteins, fats and low GI carbs and/or veggies.
Why?
insulin sensitivity is also naturally lower at night so when dieting down you would want to make the meals smaller and lower GI as the day progresses.
Again, why?

the process of feeding throughout the day naturally causes insulin sensitivity in skeletal muscle to decrease as the day progresses. this is why insulin sensitivity is so high after fasting and in the am after sleeping. genetic variances, meal composition and the time of training are all some factors which would influence this.

Sure, and this could theoretically impact, slightly, upon partitioning, but not net calorie balance. In a deficit this would not be an issue at all. In a surplus, it *might*, a bit, but likely nothing most folks would notice and certainly nothing the published research supports.

The bigger deal in terms of compliance is this: since insulin sensitivity is worse at night, carbs will tend to make insulin resistant folks hungrier at that time. Therefore, it may be best to eat them as late as possible, then brush your teeth and go to bed before their consumption is able to induce overeating. Besides, in a deficit, if you store calories, you'll retrieve them later. That's what our fat cells are for - without them, we would die!
 
insulin sensitivity would still be high since skeletal muscle would not have been de-sensitized to effects from feeding through out the day.

You wouldn't be feeding throughout the day, you'd be fasting...

If you fasted with the same fasting window for a while, I don't see how things would change depending on the when you chose to start and stop fasting.

So if I ate between 12pm and 9pm every day, I doubt I would see any negative results relative to a person eating the same diet between 9am and 6pm or 5am and 2pm or 11pm and 8am.

To me, it's intuitive that the duration of the fast is all that matters. The timing would seem to be trivial.
 
To answer BUILT... My normal training pattern right now is about 8-9 am start time. My training session will usually last about 60-90 minutes max. 4 days on ; 1 to 2 days off depending on how my joints and tendons feel. I am 44 and some weeks are better than others.
 
You wouldn't be feeding throughout the day, you'd be fasting...

If you fasted with the same fasting window for a while, I don't see how things would change depending on the when you chose to start and stop fasting.

So if I ate between 12pm and 9pm every day, I doubt I would see any negative results relative to a person eating the same diet between 9am and 6pm or 5am and 2pm or 11pm and 8am.

To me, it's intuitive that the duration of the fast is all that matters. The timing would seem to be trivial.

exactly...you would be fasting so IS in skeletal muscle remains is high. athletes do not fast so i'm not sure where that fits into this topic but regardless every time you eat IS decreases slightly. this is why a person wouldn't want to eat through out the day then finish up the day with a large meal or a very high calorie meal as IS has natural decreased as a result of feeding.
 
Okay, but under calorie-controlled conditions, what impact is this going to have?
 
Okay, but under calorie-controlled conditions, what impact is this going to have?

depends on the individual..it's just one more piece of the puzzle. for athletes like you with year round low bf obviously high IS isn't an issue. but for those training to get control of the bf it would have a very positive effect on the eating habits and optimizing GH output during sleep
 
LOL thanks at the year-round low bf - I try to stay under 20% but that's not exactly ripped. I'm also not at all insulin sensitive. Quite the opposite, in fact.
 
I also agree. Glad I started this thread.

My main objective when starting this thread was to determine how much nutrients to give my body before going to bed. This time period (6-8 hrs) is the longest that I go without eating during the course of a 24 hour period.

It is sounding to me that I may be making much more of this than I need to. If I am reading this properly, I guess some moderate protein intake at night as long as I am ingesting a good amount balanced during the day should do the trick.
 
I guess some moderate protein intake at night as long as I am ingesting a good amount balanced during the day should do the trick.

I've always been advised to eat thing like cottage cheese before bed or in the evening because the casein proteins absorb into your body throughout the night.
 
I am looking for a meal plan for myself 33 6ft 155lbs I plan on taking enanthate. I need a plan to bulk up. I am a hard gainer and never had a big appetite. please list types of foods not just the calorie and carb protien intake and supplements. thanks
 
I am looking for a meal plan for myself 33 6ft 155lbs I plan on taking enanthate. I need a plan to bulk up. I am a hard gainer and never had a big appetite. please list types of foods not just the calorie and carb protien intake and supplements. thanks

How many calories do you consume daily?
What is your macronutrient mix?

I have never, ever met a true hardgainer. I have, however, met a great many undereaters. If you can't gain weight off gear, you aren't going to gain weight ON gear. Gear doesn't add weight. Only food does that. Pinky swear!

Now post up your macros.
 
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I have a question regarding night-time eating.

During the day, I eat pretty good. Egg Whites ; Wheat Toast ; Turkey ; Cheese ; either a red meat, fish, pork, or ground beef for dinner. Ocassionally chicken. Lots of veggies and fruits.

At night (an hour or two before bed), for some reason, I always have a craving for sweets. Usually cookies or dark chocolate and lots of milk. I know that this is probably negating my good eating during the day, but that damn craving is always there!!

Any suggestions on what I can eat in place of the junk at night that might satisfy this craving of mine??

I make a coconut pudding with 1 scoop vanilla Casein protein and 1 cup Silk Coconut milk. 1T unsweetened shredded coconut and a little vanilla.
helps me with the sweet cravings and the casein is slow release protein.
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/healthy-recipes/123531-coconut-cream-pie-protein-pudding.html
 
when bulking I have cottage cheese with tons of natty peanut butter. it actually tastes really good.
 
I, too, desire something sweet in the evenings --after eating very cleanly all day. As long as I alloted myself the appropriate Pro/CHO/Fat, it has no effect on me whatsoever.

Bottom line is it is all about calories in...and calories out. Everything else is peripheral.
 
If you are 6 ft 155lbs stay the hell away from the test until you learn how to eat man. Some ideas for high cals:

1. Olive oil
2. Peanut Butter
3. Eggs
4. Milk

Those are 4 healthy choices that are calorically dense.

that's a big ditto...supplementing with anabolics won't do squat unless you have a caloric excess in the diet with sufficient carbs and fats and are training at high levels of intensity. I have seen so many people over the decades jump into using gear before they even know hot to eat. seen plenty of people in your weight range gain 10-15 lbs on the scale the first cycle.
 
Go for fruits and easily digesting foods....avoid foods like breads,paste etc
 
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