Phil Heath's Macros

[bigdtrain]

yes i have heard from an ifbb pro. he uses high high amounts of insulin and synthol, but thats what these guys need to be at the top level. phil is not a good bber. he lacks many things.

 

[SFW]

He's pulling this info out of his ass based on snippets from magazines and what someone online said. Post sources or stfu

 

[damonstertraps]

philsulin- this guy i do not really like. he does not have an olympia physique.

I agree man. Phil cant hold a candle to any of the guys from the 90's. I was watching a video of Levrone the other day, shows you how bodybuilding has gone downhill

 

[damonstertraps]

yes i have heard from an ifbb pro. he uses high high amounts of insulin and synthol, but thats what these guys need to be at the top level. phil is not a good bber. he lacks many things.

It's a shame that bodybuilding has come to this. It must go back to the 90's where AAS was the bread and butter!

 

[bigdtrain]

are you kidding me.....
neg repping me cause i tell the truth, i am not pulling this shit out of my ass. ive never read a bbing or fitness magazine in my life. why do you think his nickname is "philsulin" , its not just some shit i made up.

 

[damonstertraps]

This is why I have no interest in being at that level. No way could I eat that much.

nobody needs 9000 calories. Phil is full of shit. Well maybe not phil but the magazine ghost writer anyways. I remember Zack Kahn caliing out the bullshitters who say they eat 6000 calories a day. Kahn said hes at 4500-5000 max usually and hes the biggest bodybuilder in the planet and probably on the same amount of drugs as Phil

 

[bigdtrain]

listen buddy

top pros on average use about 4G's test a week. and 30-35 ius growth a day. you want to question that too. you have no idea. like i said before i am a bber, and i use myself, thats how i know this shit, i am not against it i am just telling the statistics

He's pulling this info out of his ass based on snippets from magazines and what someone online said. Post sources or stfu

 

[bigdtrain]

yes, nasser says he eats about 3-4 thous a day thats it. body doesnt need more than that to build, it needs the hormones

nobody needs 9000 calories. Phil is full of shit. Well maybe not phil but the magazine ghost writer anyways. I remember Zack Kahn caliing out the bullshitters who say they eat 6000 calories a day. Kahn said hes at 4500-5000 max usually and hes the biggest bodybuilder in the planet and probably on the same amount of drugs as Phil

 

[damonstertraps]

yes, nasser says he eats about 3-4 thous a day thats it. body doesnt need more than that to build, it needs the hormones

this man above me knows what hes taling about. drugs=90%. Besides when your on that much gh, in Phil's case, I cant imagine him measuring out his ketchup for god sake. My buddy was telling me stories about how when he was in Venice he saw pros eating pizza and sushi weeks out from their shows.

 

[bigdtrain]

i am just telling the truth... thank you damonstertraps

you think you can do cycles of 750mg a week test and be pro... haha you'll wonder why in a year your done growing. you need lots and lots of drugs. i dont know if people just dont want to beleive it and thats why they say i am full of it. in reality i know lots about pro bbing. and if i dont know i would be first to say im unsure. you have to realize aswell i am not against at all. i am a bber myself so this is all common for me

damonstertraps; you are very correct. it is not too uncommon to see a top level pro eating at a fast food joint once in a while pre contest. thank you for hearing

this man above me knows what hes taling about. drugs=90%. Besides when your on that much gh, in Phil's case, I cant imagine him measuring out his ketchup for god sake. My buddy was telling me stories about how when he was in Venice he saw pros eating pizza and sushi weeks out from their shows.

 

[Livebig14]

i am just telling the truth... thank you damonstertraps

you think you can do cycles of 750mg a week test and be pro... haha you'll wonder why in a year your done growing. you need lots and lots of drugs. i dont know if people just dont want to beleive it and thats why they say i am full of it. in reality i know lots about pro bbing. and if i dont know i would be first to say im unsure. you have to realize aswell i am not against at all. i am a bber myself so this is all common for me

damonstertraps; you are very correct. it is not too uncommon to see a top level pro eating at a fast food joint once in a while pre contest. thank you for hearing

This guy is right. The top guys are on A LOT of shit. And I cant see the need for 9000 calories a day unless your 400+ pounds which Heath is not.

 

[damonstertraps]

This guy is right. The top guys are on A LOT of shit. And I cant see the need for 9000 calories a day unless your 400+ pounds which Heath is not.

This is what I reckon is a typical day in the life of Phil.

-Wake up slam first 5 iu of gh, 20iu humalog
-go train for a hour..more like a 45 minute half ass session with the weights cause your so tired from the gh
-come home and inject 2 amps of test
-watch some tv but wait you cant!! time to slam another 5iu along with your next 20 iu of slin. I can imagine it gets annoying after a while but these guys are severe drug addicts
-drive by donuts shop and get a dozen chocolate a few glazed. No worries..the next 5iu are soon on its way and will burn that shit up like a furnice.
-take 1 cc of eq, few cc's of tren
-reach in the fridge, slam a protein shake with ben and jerry's only to wake up fuller and leaner than the next day. slam another 5iu.

this is how Phil was made. Not no 9000 calories..not no wimpy 600mg cyp, 5iu insulin postworkout and 4iu gh with some oatmeal and eggwhites.

 

[bigdtrain]

hahaha this made me laugh dude! pos rep for you.
a lot of these guys train half asleep, and gh will make you real tired in high doses. when i hit it i always get yawny and sleepy.
and alot of these guys use- n u b a i n
any you guys hear about this stuff, have a look on internet yourselves
milos sarcev was big user, and he got sonny schmidt addicted to it. took him close to 6 months to finish all withdrawls. if you see some of the pros training videos you can tell they are high as kite, if you dont beleive ill post a video

just to reinforce i am just telling the truth, i am not against, i am bber, and have hopes of being an o contender one day

This is what I reckon is a typical day in the life of Phil.

-Wake up slam first 5 iu of gh, 20iu humalog
-go train for a hour..more like a 45 minute half ass session with the weights cause your so tired from the gh
-come home and inject 2 amps of test
-watch some tv but wait you cant!! time to slam another 5iu along with your next 20 iu of slin. I can imagine it gets annoying after a while but these guys are severe drug addicts
-drive by donuts shop and get a dozen chocolate a few glazed. No worries..the next 5iu are soon on its way and will burn that shit up like a furnice.
-take 1 cc of eq, few cc's of tren
-reach in the fridge, slam a protein shake with ben and jerry's only to wake up fuller and leaner than the next day. slam another 5iu.

this is how Phil was made. Not no 9000 calories..not no wimpy 600mg cyp, 5iu insulin postworkout and 4iu gh with some oatmeal and eggwhites.

 

[Livebig14]

hahaha this made me laugh dude! pos rep for you.
a lot of these guys train half asleep, and gh will make you real tired in high doses. when i hit it i always get yawny and sleepy.
and alot of these guys use- n u b a i n
any you guys hear about this stuff, have a look on internet yourselves
milos sarcev was big user, and he got sonny schmidt addicted to it. took him close to 6 months to finish all withdrawls. if you see some of the pros training videos you can tell they are high as kite, if you dont beleive ill post a video

just to reinforce i am just telling the truth, i am not against, i am bber, and have hopes of being an o contender one day

wow i guess nubain would make it a little easier to power through those last reps when you feel like you muscles are going to tear in half huh? Crazy shit man

 

[bigdtrain]

i recomend anyone who reads this never never never touch nubain

 

[OMEGAx]

The guy annoys me for some reason

 

[bobdylan]

Well looks like Phil is going to become Mr O tomorrow night

 

[Livebig14]

Well looks like Phil is going to become Mr O tomorrow night

That was only half the show. As of now Phil is winning. Pre judging is now only weighed at 50% of total scores. Don't count out Kai Greene or Jay yet.

 

[booze]

Are there any tell tale books on bb? I want to know all the secrets lol

 

[bobdylan]

That was only half the show. As of now Phil is winning. Pre judging is now only weighed at 50% of total scores. Don't count out Kai Greene or Jay yet.

I counted Jay out when his left bi nearly made me puke.

GROCE

His right quad was off too ... but not nearly as bad as his bis

Overall his legs shrunk a bit from last year.

 

[Livebig14]

I counted Jay out when his left bi nearly made me puke.

GROCE

His right quad was off too ... but not nearly as bad as his bis

Overall his legs shrunk a bit from last year.

True. I think unless Kai comes back at 110% then Phil will take it. But if Kai comes in tonight slightly better than yesterday, Phil may have a problem on his hands. we will have to wait and see

 

[bobdylan]

True. I think unless Kai comes back at 110% then Phil will take it. But if Kai comes in tonight slightly better than yesterday, Phil may have a problem on his hands. we will have to wait and see

What would be crazy if Vic and Kai passed Jay.

I think first is one.

The real battle is 2nd-4th IMO

Unless shit gets faggy time political then all logic and speculation goes out the window.

 

[Livebig14]

What would be crazy if Vic and Kai passed Jay.

I think first is one.

The real battle is 2nd-4th IMO

Unless shit gets faggy time political then all logic and speculation goes out the window.

as of last nights pre judging, I would have had it
1. Phil Heath
2. Kai Greene
3. Victor Martinez
4. Dennis Wolf
5. Jay Cutler
6. Ronny Rockel

But im sure that order will change a bit after tonight is over, and also Jay has "stolen" an Olympia from victor so its possible he could do the same thing to phil. Too much politics

 

[Calves of Steel]

bigd I feel like you're under the impression that Phil's a bigger drug abuser than the other guys, and that you would be able to tell this from some particular characteristic of his muscles, and that this makes him undeserving of the title? I for one think he looks the best on stage, drugs or not. Bodybuilding's all about illusion and IMO he did right. I think he looks the best on stage. Jay, Vic, and Kai unfortunately barely look mesomorphic from the front anymore, their waists have gotten too wide.

 

[Digitalash]

Never heard of nubain, but searching it on google brings up tons of topics related to bodybuilding. What makes it more bodybuilding "friendly" than other opiates? I just don't get why so many seem to say "nubain is as much a part of bodybuilding as AAS".

 

[brundel]

Nubain is not something you want to fuck with.
It IS NOT friendly to anyone.
It was a bad idea bringing it up at all as alot of people read these forums and this could lead to a poor decision.
Nubain (nalbuphine hydrochloride) is a fuking nightmare.
Its an injectable opiate based pain killer that is MG/MG the same strength as morphine.

Its extremely addictive and trust me it doesnt help you train.....Try being high as hell on opiates and training....unless your also shooting meth its not gonna go well.

I know for a fact this stuff is bad.
I was addicted to it for years.

Steer clear.

 

[Digitalash]

Nubain is not something you want to fuck with.
It IS NOT friendly to anyone.
It was a bad idea bringing it up at all as alot of people read these forums and this could lead to a poor decision.
Nubain (nalbuphine hydrochloride) is a fuking nightmare.
Its an injectable opiate based pain killer that is MG/MG the same strength as morphine.

Its extremely addictive and trust me it doesnt help you train.....Try being high as hell on opiates and training....unless your also shooting meth its not gonna go well.

I know for a fact this stuff is bad.
I was addicted to it for years.

Steer clear.

Gotcha, I worded that wrong. I'm aware opiates are a dangerous thing to mess with, was just curious why nubain and not something else like morphine/fentanyl/tramadol etc.? I'd remove the post but it's too late to edit.

 

[bobdylan]

Wow interesting.

Thoughts on weed? lol

 

[bigdtrain]

toney freeman says he smokes weed i personally feel it does not affect bbing, however if your natural it probably will. but with hormones, lots of pros use

 

[Resolve]

If I had to eat that much, smoking is the only way I'd be able to get it all down.