started my size cycle

[spic]

Hey i started my first cycle a week ago just got ahold of some dbol and ye... im 6'' 205 maybe 10 % bf been working out as long as i can remember...

1-12 - t 400 (200 mg x 2 /week)
2-6 dbol 25 mg ed
1-12 - armixdex (.5 mg eod)
4-14 - hcg (250 iu e3d [500 iu/week])
2- 12 proviron (50 mg ed)

PCT
nolva- 40/40/20/20
clomid - 100/50/50/25

is this PCT good enough or should something be added?

i also have some proviron which im not sure if i should take during cycle 50 mg ed?? or for PCT... any suggestions??

i will be trying to eat 300 g protien and 400-500 g carbs a day... and working out in demolition and hitting the gym everyday..

 

[boyd.357]

Take the proviron while on cycle not for pct. Also i would drop the nolva and replace with aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5.

 

[Dath]

Take the proviron while on cycle not for pct. Also i would drop the nolva and replace with aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5.

^^^. This
Sure ur aware but start Pct 2 wks after last pin.
I'd bump the test up to 500
Age? btw

 

[spic]

isnt aromasin a AI and i thought i needed a SERM like clomid or nolva for pct??? isnt clomid a good pct to come off of this cycle im not sure if i can get aromasin is it really necessary?

 

[fredlabrute]

Are you just taking 400mg of test per week???Would also begin the dbol right away,will kick in until you feel the test!!!

 

[littlekev]

Age??????????????????????? Cycle history???????????????????

 

[Dath]

isnt aromasin a AI and i thought i needed a SERM like clomid or nolva for pct??? isnt clomid a good pct to come off of this cycle im not sure if i can get aromasin is it really necessary?

An AI like aromasin during pct is beneficial because it's what we refer to as "suicide" on estrogen, halts prod and prevents estrogen rebound. You don't wanna have high Estro during pct while the test is clearing and your returning to your natural production.
Is aromasin neccassary ? IMO yes it is but everyones different and labs confirm all the guessing.
Pct
Clomid100/75/75/50
Aromasin25/25/12.5/12.5

.. 3rd time now what's your AGE!?

 

[Chrisotpherm]

With you size I would surely bump up the test to at least 500mgs for better results. IMO brother I wouldn't be in the gym everyday as your body is going to need recovery especially with AAS. Your body will be going through a chemical transformation and your body will need solid rest and recovery. I know you are fired up about your cycle but brother learn from guys like me that you can do more focused exercises in less time in the gym and get huge. During cycle you will want to focus a lot on proper recovery to avoid exhaustion of your muscle tissues that could lead to injury or over use. What are your goals for this cycle and how many calories will you be consuming every day?

 

[Roaddkingg]

All very solid advise

Listen to these fella's, they know what they are talking about.
Do your d-bol from day one. Get yourself some aromasin.
Up you'r test dose.
Should be a simple cycle and you'll get good results.

 

[spic]

id do my dbol from the begining but i only had t400 when i first started .. im on week 3 now and im going to try and get some aromasin .. and would a 3 day 1 rest split be really good? im aiming for maybe 5-6,000 carolies a day.. 200-250g of protien (trying to aim for 300 but finding it difficult to fit more meals in) and im 22

 

[Dath]

id do my dbol from the beginning but i only had t400 when i first started .. im on week 3 now and im going to try and get some aromasin .. and would a 3 day 1 rest split be really good? im aiming for maybe 5-6,000 carolies a day.. 200-250g of protien (trying to aim for 300 but finding it difficult to fit more meals in) and im 22

Damn It !!Hate the age man
From reading ur posts there bro you ain't trying to get a pro card .. Know What I mean. It's not to late to stop! Your 5-6 pins in so far. You got Gd stats 6' 205 at 22
I'd really hope you'd stop and do a pct now, and give it a couple years! Your basically at the height of your natural test production utilize that man!!

 

[Caz Rad]

So many young people are too eager to jump on AAS when they produce it naturally. Do yourselves a favor and take advantage of the FREE testosterone you have roaming around in your young bodies. It's free, it's real, and it's painless.

 

[NPCSUPERHEAVY]

thats a good virgin cycle keep us posted

 

[spic]

Damn It !!Hate the age man
From reading ur posts there bro you ain't trying to get a pro card .. Know What I mean. It's not to late to stop! Your 5-6 pins in so far. You got Gd stats 6' 205 at 22
I'd really hope you'd stop and do a pct now, and give it a couple years! Your basically at the height of your natural test production utilize that man!!

hey i appericate the concern and by no means am i saying your wrong or nothing will happen to me ... but i feel like im pretty much done developing and im just gonna go for it.. ive already started and want to complete it now... aside from my age is there any other improvements the cycle could use.. i feel like the cycle isnt too extreme.. and its a good start and probably my last one.. again no disrespect

 

[Dath]

Nah none taken bro!
Figured you were gonna stick with it anyhow, lots of guys been there.
I'd run the pct suggested( beginning 2 weeks after last pin )
Clomid 100/75/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
The dbol I'd save for wks 9-12
When u find it hard to eat meals go to protein shakes,
Btw ya did fine laying out your cycle bro, best of luck with it

 

[spic]

hey so i recently talked to some friends and they said that 400 was rather low per week im thinking bout bumping it up to .75 ml 2x a week or 1 ml x2 week (600 or 800 mg weekly) what do you guys think of this is this excessive? would i be more prone to gyno or other effects? and should i increase my arimedex or keep it at .5 eod?

 

[spic]

anyone wanna give some input? my shots coming up tonight and i think im gonna try doing .75 ml tonite so bumpin it up the t400 to 600 mg a week

 

[KUVinny]

Keep it where you are at. You have just got things going (against better judgement) so give this a chance. It's still high enough to be considered supra physiological along with the dbol kicker. Let it be, and focus your thoughts on eating, training, and resting.

 

[spic]

so what can some negative effects come from uping it from 400 mg / week to 600 mg / week? if im still taking an AI and have nolva on hand incase any gyno comes up i dont see what the issue would be with bumping it up... im not saying there isnt one im just trying to understand the negative side to bumpin it up

 

[the_anapolack]

i would drop the dbol unless you like moon face and water retention (unless u using for strength purposes).........cutting and bulking cycles are dumb.....its all about goals and "dry" gains or strength gains and controling water......get to know your roid of choice

 

[rage racing]

i would drop the dbol unless you like moon face and water retention (unless u using for strength purposes).........cutting and bulking cycles are dumb.....its all about goals and "dry" gains or strength gains and controling water......get to know your roid of choice

Not true. Just got done with a 4 week Dbol kick start and I hardly put on any water weight, I still look very vascular and put on about 10lbs. With an AI, good diet and lots of water intake you can keep the bloat away....

 

[boyd.357]

^Agreed you can cut on just about any steroid. Its all about diet,ai, and cardio.