Vannesb LOG Uncle Z Head to Head

[SwoleZilla]

Thanks bro!! Especially when I hit 190 and I am more ripped than in these pics!!! Yea I know most people hold water while on cycle, but that has never been the case for me!! Crushed abs today as well as arms and back!!

With pics posted I have to keep stepping it up!!! Just loaded up on more weight gainer and some other sups, 200.00! Damm that shit ads up!!!!! Brad you will see the 190!!!

good bro! slam like three of tho MOFOs a day hahah...if you dont get to 190 ima roll up and steal all your supps...and ur stash of goodies if you have some!!!

10-2-11

Week 5 Back/Arms

Pull ups

4 X 10 reps (Body weight

Seated Rows

12 X 190

10 X 200

10 X 200

8 X 210

Bent over rows

10 X 135

10 X 135

8 X 135

Wide Grip Lat Pulls (due to pull ups not as strong today and working arms first)

12 X 150

10 X 160

10 X 160

6 X 170

Alternate DB

10 X 50

10 X 55

8 X 60

10 X 50

Preacher Curls

15 X 55

12 X 60

10 X 65

8 X 75

Hammer Curls

10 X 65

8 X 65

8 X 65

8 X 65

Easy Bar

10 X 60

10 X 70

8 X 80

Worked on form more than how much weight I pushed. Hitting Arms first made a big difference on back for sure! Great pump and work out!

Also 8 sets of abs, various exercises from leg lifts, crunches, and weighted. Heavy wanted to see ABS he will see ABS!

oh ya man hitting bis makes a huge difference. you werent able to go as heavy buy your using more back and less bis since you pre-exhausted them. not bad to switch it up like that

 

[vannesb]

good bro! slam like three of tho MOFOs a day hahah...if you dont get to 190 ima roll up and steal all your supps...and ur stash of goodies if you have some!!!



oh ya man hitting bis makes a huge difference. you werent able to go as heavy buy your using more back and less bis since you pre-exhausted them. not bad to switch it up like that

yea big difference for sure! I am slamming everything in site! LOL!! Eatting big wait until the end bro! 8 pack, and fuckin ripped!

 

[bigbenj]

Better come super fucking ripped at the end. You're already lean as shit, you're going to need to hit like 5% body fat lol

 

[SwoleZilla]

yea big difference for sure! I am slamming everything in site! LOL!! Eatting big wait until the end bro! 8 pack, and fuckin ripped!

thats what i want to hear damn it! not get to 190!

Better come super fucking ripped at the end. You're already lean as shit, you're going to need to hit like 5% body fat lol

agreed!

 

[SwoleZilla]

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/i...d-makes-you-believer-october.html#post2491829

check it out guys...help me get the word out. took it over from ben

 

[vannesb]

Better come super fucking ripped at the end. You're already lean as shit, you're going to need to hit like 5% body fat lol

yea I know I have to REALLY step it up! I dont think I am holding any water so thats good!! Just need to dial in the food intake carbs etc the last couple of weeks! If I can maintain the weight then I think 13lb increase is pretty fuckin amazing in my mind. Whe I started this thing I asked a few people what would be good results and was told 3 to 4 lbs of LM?

I am a HARD GAINER so 13lbs is amazing and shows how GREAT Z gear is!! Wife has me doing cardio with her she is BRUTAL!!!! Lucky for me loosing BF comes very easy, have never been that low in BF, but have never tried! If I can get to around 7 to 8% and stay at 186 I will be jacked for sure!!

Keep hitting it hard Ben we are down to the wire bro!

 

[bigbenj]

Tell your wife I said to keep kicking your ass lol. I just want to come in ripped, never in my life have I been lean lol always husky

 

[vannesb]

Tell your wife I said to keep kicking your ass lol. I just want to come in ripped, never in my life have I been lean lol always husky

Bro you will this time you are on your way! You have leaned out a lot!! yea my wife is not cutting me any slack!!!

 

[bigbenj]

Just tell her not to give you a heart attack. Heart health is very important at your age haha

 

[SwoleZilla]

Bro you will this time you are on your way! You have leaned out a lot!! yea my wife is not cutting me any slack!!!

agreed V ben is making great improvements

keep it up brotha

 

[heavyiron]

yea I know I have to REALLY step it up! I dont think I am holding any water so thats good!! Just need to dial in the food intake carbs etc the last couple of weeks! If I can maintain the weight then I think 13lb increase is pretty fuckin amazing in my mind. Whe I started this thing I asked a few people what would be good results and was told 3 to 4 lbs of LM?

I am a HARD GAINER so 13lbs is amazing and shows how GREAT Z gear is!! Wife has me doing cardio with her she is BRUTAL!!!! Lucky for me loosing BF comes very easy, have never been that low in BF, but have never tried! If I can get to around 7 to 8% and stay at 186 I will be jacked for sure!!

Keep hitting it hard Ben we are down to the wire bro!

Most of the weight gain is water. It is sub q and inter muscular.

 

[vannesb]

Most of the weight gain is water. It is sub q and inter muscular.

so other words your saying even though i dont look like I am holding water there is water there?

That sucks!

 

[heavyiron]

so other words your saying even though i dont look like I am holding water there is water there?

That sucks!

Well, I can see the water so...

 

[SwoleZilla]

Well, I can see the water so...

damn really? to me it looks like V is damn dry for being on dbol

 

[heavyiron]

damn really? to me it looks like V is damn dry for being on dbol

Notice how smooth he looks. Few veins and kind of a soft look. It's either fat and/or water. Once he leans down and drops the test and d-bol down he will tighten up. He does not look bloated but I would not call the look dry either.

 

[SwoleZilla]

Notice how smooth he looks. Few veins and kind of a soft look. It's either fat and/or water. Once he leans down and drops the test and d-bol down he will tighten up. He does not look bloated but I would not call the look dry either.

i can see where you come from...maybe im just use to ballooning up when i run dbol haha

 

[katanga]

Keep it up dude...lookin good

 

[vannesb]

Notice how smooth he looks. Few veins and kind of a soft look. It's either fat and/or water. Once he leans down and drops the test and d-bol down he will tighten up. He does not look bloated but I would not call the look dry either.

appreciate the positive comments! LOL

 

[heavyiron]

i can see where you come from...maybe im just use to ballooning up when i run dbol haha

Yeah, his AI is holding back the big bloat. He will look good if he drops dose, and manipulates water, carbs and sodium at the end. Also, if a guy takes pics in the AM before eating and drinking it can give a dryer look so he may be taking some pics when slightly dehydrated. I like to see pics first thing in the AM for this very reason.

 

[returnofthdragon]

Plenty of time left. Keep working!

 

[vannesb]

Yeah, his AI is holding back the big bloat. He will look good if he drops dose, and manipulates water, carbs and sodium at the end. Also, if a guy takes pics in the AM before eating and drinking it can give a dryer look so he may be taking some pics when slightly dehydrated. I like to see pics first thing in the AM for this very reason.

I guess i am confused as shit now, am I not better to be taking AI so I dont look bloated? Yea my pictures are at PM not first thing am, I looked more ripped am of course. Final pics will see maybe i will cut back AI to EOD .5? What do you think Heavy?

 

[heavyiron]

I guess i am confused as shit now, am I not better to be taking AI so I dont look bloated? Yea my pictures are at PM not first thing am, I looked more ripped am of course. Final pics will see maybe i will cut back AI to EOD .5? What do you think Heavy?

Steroid dose goes down, AI dose goes up at the end.

 

[vannesb]

Steroid dose goes down, AI dose goes up at the end.

see I thought it was the oposite! Since I am on High dosage Test right now I am Gyno prone. I thought the AI should lower my estrogen which should minimize the chance for Gyno? That was my rationale anyway. When I am on cruise 300mg per week I take Armidex .5 twice a week the day of injection. I will cut back some and see how my body reacts, I dont want Gyno for Damm sure!

 

[bigbenj]

AI will lower your chances of gyno. what heavy meant is that towards the end of the comp(last week or so), you should lower the test dose, and up the AI. This will help you dry out.

unless you already knew what he meant lol

 

[vannesb]

10-3-11

Week 6

shoulders/traps

Arnold presses (DB)

8 X 70

8 X 70

8 X 70

8 X 70

Front laterals DB

10 X 50

10 X 50

10 X 50

10 X 50

Rear delts DB

12 x 50

10 X 50

8 X 50 (+5lbs)

Upright rows BB

12 X 95

12 X 95

10 X 110

10 X 110

Schrugs

4 sets

15 X 315

Cardio 20 miniutes

Did all DB today worked out of the house everyone is sick in the house.

 

[bigbenj]

yep, its that time of year for the sickness to start floating around.

 

[vannesb]

AI will lower your chances of gyno. what heavy meant is that towards the end of the comp(last week or so), you should lower the test dose, and up the AI. This will help you dry out.

unless you already knew what he meant lol

No I had no clue bro, thats what he meant. To be honest I never have tried all the stuff he talks about so pictures look better etc. I have always taken AI so I dont get gyno, since I am prone and keep test dose high until end of cycle. Then will drop to 300mg Test and cruise until next time.

 

[bigbenj]

Just wanted to make sure I wasnt repeating what you already knew. but were good.

anyway, Ive never tried it either, but Im going to for this contest.

 

[vannesb]

Just wanted to make sure I was repeating what you already knew. but were good.

anyway, Ive never tried it either, but Im going to for this contest.

Well you seem to be getting it dialed in bro!

 

[SwoleZilla]

10-3-11

Week 6

shoulders/traps

Arnold presses (DB)

8 X 70

8 X 70

8 X 70

8 X 70

Front laterals DB

10 X 50

10 X 50

10 X 50

10 X 50

Rear delts DB

12 x 50

10 X 50

8 X 50 (+5lbs)

Upright rows BB

12 X 95

12 X 95

10 X 110

10 X 110

Schrugs

4 sets

15 X 315

Cardio 20 miniutes

Did all DB today worked out of the house everyone is sick in the house.

heavy ass arnolds broham!

hell of a workout from the looks of it

were u straight up beastin it in the gym?