hey guys wanting a little help with my next cycle.it will be a couple months away.so it will be my winter bulk cycle you could say.me and my workout partner all ways love to train heavy and bulking for a couple months during winter even thou i am really bulking anyway and really need to cutt year arround but that just sucks.so my guestion is what would be a good short cycle say like 10 weeks or so.what compounds (aka gear) makes you add lots of strength would like to be able to show out in the gym for a couple months before going back to my boring cutting.i am 34 years old 5ft 9 tall weighing arround 230-238 right now bf idk i would say arround 13-15% mainly just a little fat on tummy can all most see six pack when flexed.i have ran sevral cycles before and never have had any side effects while on i have ran test e,deca,eq and superdrol and couple of phs.i know i will be running test e/c and would like to hear what to add to this to make me have super human strength.thanks for the help to make a long guestion short what steroid is best for all out strngth gain.thanks
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D-Lats
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Anadrol, lots of test and some tren! And a shit load of grocdries lol!!
GMO
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I agree with Sloppy...tren and throw in an oral like d-bol, which always makes me strong as hell. But as Latsky said "a shit load of groceries"...the more you eat the more you'll grow and gain strength. Two summers ago while I was off the sauce, I started eating 1000 more calories each day and all of my lifts went up significantly without AAS. I did gain some bodyfat however...
malfeasance
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At 15%, I think I would continue cutting . . .
OldSchoolLifter
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1-8 100mg Test Prop/eod
1-4 100mg Anadrol/ed
1-8 60mg Anavar/ed
1-10 12.5mg Aromasin/eod
PCT
Good to go!
1-4 100mg Anadrol/ed
1-8 60mg Anavar/ed
1-10 12.5mg Aromasin/eod
PCT
Good to go!
Dedication
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test, tren, but as far as oral I don't know if I would go with dbol or SD.
BigBird
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Test Cyp or E
Tren Ace
Halotestin.
Tren Ace
Halotestin.
D-Lats
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Halo eh? No real muscle gain is there? I dont know ive never used it.
BigBird
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Wrong - it's just more a slow gradual muscle gain but strength gains are impressive and immediate and that's what OP alluded to as his goal.
Over time, muscle size increase is due to actual density improvement of the muscle fibers (aka Quality gains) as opposed to water retention in cases such as Drol or Dbol where muscle looks bigger than Halo muscle but in actuality is not. The Halo strength gains are sick. Halo also caused muscles to harden like concrete without a big puffy bulky appearance.
Ballgame23
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Bumping the Halo with bigbird!! Crazy strength gains!!
BigBird
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I only put Halo due to my firsthand experience with it. I got nearly too strong for my own good. And it was a good "angry ferocious" type of strength. Felt like I could put my fist through a windshield, break every bone in my hand and just not care.
I'm a strength athlete and am very interested in Halotestin for strength.
I was given the wave-off on it by a very experienced user who told me that it used to be nicknamed ""holocaust," due to the extreme aggression that it imparts.
I still want to try running it, but needless to say, I'm a little leary.
I was given the wave-off on it by a very experienced user who told me that it used to be nicknamed ""holocaust," due to the extreme aggression that it imparts.
I still want to try running it, but needless to say, I'm a little leary.
really surprised nobody had deca in here anywhere for nothing else help with joints from going heavy weights.the only problem with tren here is i was planing on it being in my summer cut cycle that will follow this cycle do you think it would be ok to run tren in back to back cycle there will be a break off time between.and another guestion how will i work the orals with a 10 week cycle to long on orals.so should i do orals at the begining or the end i will only run orals for like 6 weeks.
VictorZ06
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Drol is tough to beat in terms of strength.
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BigBird
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It's all a matter of containing the aggression and getting it out in the gym. Maturity is of utmost importance if running Halo. It's most noted for extreme aggression combined with real strength gains.
Agree with VicZ about Anadrol but I think the OP wanted to steer clear of any bulker.
no bigbird i am going to be doing a bulk this is going to be my winter bulk cycle.so would test e at 1g a week anadrol,halo and deca be a good strength cycle the only thing not sure about running two orals because halo is a oral right idk much about halo.i think i should have ask this guestion in a poll form as to what steroid is best for strength gains like making my bench press go up like 75ilbs max in 10 weeks kinda strength gains if you could only choose one what would it be hands down?
dirtwarrior
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I like the idea of a strength only cycle.
I am going to try that with test and eq
I am going to try that with test and eq
dirtwarrior
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BigBird
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Ok, so then use Anadrol an oral for the first 4 weeks (you won't believe the immediate strength gains/size too) - take a short two week break from orals mid cycle - then run the Halo the final 4 weeks. Good quality 'Drol will do it's thing at 50mg ED. Halo dose should be near 30mg ED. All the while keep running the Test. You can also run the Deca, if, and only if, you are epxerienced enough to run such kind of stack with AI's, high protein intake etc.
If you'd rather run one, and only one oral during cycle, then due to the fact that you're pinning 1gram of Test and X? amount of Deca EW, I'd say go with 6 weeks of Halo. You'll get plenty of bulk with the Test and Deca. I just happen to believe the Halo would bring nice aesthetic value to the cycle.
Your call. Good luck.
That's A LOT of toxic oral AAS there. 4 weeks of a-bombs a two week break and then 4 weeks of halo? His liver would look like swiss cheese.
damn ct before you posted that was going with bigbird layout for the win.but i do not want to do damage to my liver all ready done enough of that in my youger years heavy drinking how long can i safley run adrol.is 6 weeks to long.because i could start out with 750mg a week of test with like 400mg a week of deca adrol first 6 weeks then last 4 weeks without any orals up my test to 1g a week and maybe up the deca dose a little all so.to make up for the lose in droping the abomb.what does that look like.i will be taking support supps to protect my liver and of course my ai and pct will be spot on and high protein intake and all that this will be my 4th cycle or so.
hey man i just finshed this cycle but i ran test e/c at 750mg a week pinnin mon/thurs and eq at 500mg a week.had good results could of got same results with test only i think.
BigBird
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From my personal experience, I believe liver toxicity, although a very real thing indeed, is over-estimated. My belief is due to the fact that a strong healthy liver like mine has withstood running months and months of many orals, sometimes multiple orals at once, with lab results in the end showing liver values to be in good standing. (However, my cholesterol and BP are currently a trainwreck, and this why I am taking a loooong break from orals). I do not believe 8 weeks of orals - separated by a two week break - will cause any significant liver issues. Of course, this cannot be guaranteed, but I am merely stating the case that if I can run virtually 8 months of heavy orals with no evidence of hepa-toxicity, it is certainly reasonable to expect a normal healthy liver to handle 8 weeks. That's all. In fact, many users use an oral for a kickstart, followed by a short oral-free period, and then bring up the rear of the cycle with another oral. While I do take liver health seriously, I am not one to be ultra-conservative when recommending orals to someone provided his liver and overall health is in good working condition.
Unless you're running anavar, in my opinion I wouldn't run all oral longer than 6 weeks max., and that's with using a ton of liver supplements to go along with the orals.
Again, unless you're running anavar, I think the total amount of orals ran per year shouldn't exceed 12 weeks. That's being safe and others will have different opinions. That's just my opinion.
Halo is the absolute most toxic oral. It should be used very carefully.
BigBird just likes orals, nothing wrong with that. I just think they should be used very briefly and occasionally.
Again, unless you're running anavar, I think the total amount of orals ran per year shouldn't exceed 12 weeks. That's being safe and others will have different opinions. That's just my opinion.
Halo is the absolute most toxic oral. It should be used very carefully.
BigBird just likes orals, nothing wrong with that. I just think they should be used very briefly and occasionally.
BigBird
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My advice with orals is if, and only if, your liver is in good health and you are running liver support.
