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Beginner, want to start with orals PLEASE HELP!

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Hi I have never done aas, but I am planning on it. I am trying to do some research but I havent been able to find a whole lot or enough to make up my mind. I know I want to start off with orals for now and then move on to injections after a couple cycles, maybe 3 or so.

I was on a supplier's site and am looking at the following cycle package:
Cutting cycle- Clenbuterol, cytomel, winstrol. This is a 9 week cycle with winistrol the whole 9 weeks; Clenbuterol weeks 1,2,3 and weeks 7,8,9; And Cytomel weeks 4,5,6,7.... I was first really excited for this cycle but after reading around on this site a while, there isnt a lot of pro-winstrol people here, so I am not sure now.

For now I want something basic a cycle that is all oral. Someone please give me some input on what I should do. I know I am a newb or whatever I am just in need of help with oral info. Thanks sooo much.
 
What are your stats first? Age? Years traning? Cycle history or Prohormones? Goal? Secondly all oral is a terrible inexperienced idea. Orals are much more liver toxic and hard on the heart and body in general. If you want to use AAS you have to do things as safely as possible because it can be dangerous. Orals are meant to supplement injectables and shouldn't be incorporated until after a Test only cycle. If you run an oral only cycle you will lose most of what you gain and put stress on your body for little gain. Any oral will shutdown your natural Test and a short oral cycle is not worth doing this, TRUST ME! You should stay here research more. Learn everything you can first and get as far as you can naturally. Learn how to protect your body and do things as safely as possible because you only have one life so don't make stupid choices.
 
TGB1987 said:
What are your stats first? Age? Years traning? Cycle history or Prohormones? Goal? Secondly all oral is a terrible inexperienced idea. Orals are much more liver toxic and hard on the heart and body in general. If you want to use AAS you have to do things as safely as possible because it can be dangerous. Orals are meant to supplement injectables and shouldn't be incorporated until after a Test only cycle. If you run an oral only cycle you will lose most of what you gain and put stress on your body for little gain. Any oral will shutdown your natural Test and a short oral cycle is not worth doing this, TRUST ME! You should stay here research more. Learn everything you can first and get as far as you can naturally. Learn how to protect your body and do things as safely as possible because you only have one life so don't make stupid choices.
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Hey man, thanks for the reply. as far as my stats, I am 22 years old, have been lifting since I was 15 years old, but got into serious powerlifting about 2 years ago. My PR numbers are:
deadlift-590lbs
squat-605lbs
bench-365lbs

So as far as goals go I am looking for strength gains mostly but I would also like to drop some bodyfat and look better lol (i know diet is key, I just would like an aid haha)..

As far as prohormones or aas history or anything like that; all I have done is stuff availble at vitamin shoppe and gnc, so i have nooo history with that kind of stuff (i have take usplabs powerfull and some natural test stuff, but it was all very minor)...

I wanted orals becuase of the convienience, but after what you said and the research I have been doin that doesnt sound like a good idea. So what do you think is best for me in my situation? Ive heard a lot about Test only cycles being good for beginners, I am just way paranoid about needles lol. Also with test only when do I take anti-estrogen? and is it always necessary to?
 
go back one page and read the "first cycle and pct" sticky, that'll tell you everything you need to know.
 
Any major muscle group is ideal (quads, glutes, pecs)

P.s. How much is that package you plan on ordering? You'd prob get solid results with DMZ and some bronkaid at cvs. While ur at cvs you can pick up some milk thistle. 2 birds with one stone. maybe swing over to the skin care isle and get yourself some orange glow tan cream, 'cause youre gonna need to accentuate your new desirability.
 
SFW said:
Any major muscle group is ideal (quads, glutes, pecs)

P.s. How much is that package you plan on ordering? You'd prob get solid results with DMZ and some bronkaid at cvs. While ur at cvs you can pick up some milk thistle. 2 birds with one stone. maybe swing over to the skin care isle and get yourself some orange glow tan cream, 'cause youre gonna need to accentuate your new desirability.
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What is Bronkaid and DMZ?
 
Not to feed the flames or anything but if ur into powerliftIng, a dbol test cycle seems like pr heaven. As long as ur cautious, for 290 you could get a 10 week cycle that'll put 10-20 lbs on u and up your lifts a good 10%.

Read the first cycle sticky and look into research on Dianabol. If PLing is ur thing, just know that the elite powerlifters in ur circles run like 1g a week of test on top of deca and orals. Start small but if ur lookin for a strong future, this board can help u with the knowledge u need
 
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check out spotinjections.com to see exactly where to pin, quads/glutes/delts are pretty easy beginner sites

And no, injecting really does not hurt. Modern needles are so goddamn sharp it goes through the skin with ease. You literally don't feel the muscle at ALL. It's like one millisecond of a pin prick sensation and then it glides in nice and smooth. If anything the soreness afterwards is worse and that's easily tolerable.
 
pieguy said:
Not to feed the flames or anything but if ur into powerliftIng, a dbol test cycle seems like pr heaven. As long as ur cautious, for 290 you could get a 10 week cycle that'll put 10-20 lbs on u and up your lifts a good 10%.

Read the first cycle sticky and look into research on Dianabol. If PLing is ur thing, just know that the elite powerlifters in ur circles run like 1g a week of test on top of deca and orals. Start small but if ur lookin for a strong future, this board can help u with the knowledge u need
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Ya man thanks. I pretty much know very little so I will be on here a lot learning as much as I can.. Ya I have a love for powerlifting and I desire to compete and whoop ass. and after listening to people like louie simmons and such I have came to the conclusion that steroids arent the devil like the media portrays it to be, just start small and become educated and i'll be fine. The propaganda machine is soo strong lol.. But ya ill take a look at dbol test cycle. Thanks.
 
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alextheassassin said:
What is Bronkaid and DMZ?
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Not sure what bronkaid is but DMZ is Super Dmz is aviable through ironmaglabs. Im starting my cycle off With DMZ and becuase of all the great reviews on it. I agree with SFW if you really only wanna do orals then go do what he said pick up Some dmz and what else u need for pct milkthistle and what not and ull save some $ and from what i understand still get great results...
 
alextheassassin said:
Hi I have never done aas, but I am planning on it. I am trying to do some research but I havent been able to find a whole lot or enough to make up my mind. I know I want to start off with orals for now and then move on to injections after a couple cycles, maybe 3 or so.

I was on a supplier's site and am looking at the following cycle package:
Cutting cycle- Clenbuterol, cytomel, winstrol. This is a 9 week cycle with winistrol the whole 9 weeks; Clenbuterol weeks 1,2,3 and weeks 7,8,9; And Cytomel weeks 4,5,6,7.... I was first really excited for this cycle but after reading around on this site a while, there isnt a lot of pro-winstrol people here, so I am not sure now.

For now I want something basic a cycle that is all oral. Someone please give me some input on what I should do. I know I am a newb or whatever I am just in need of help with oral info. Thanks sooo much.
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My first cycle was all orals because I didn't want to inject alone. I stacked Restandol which is Testosterone in red capsules with Proviron, Primo Acetate, Anadrol and Anavar. I don't remember the dosages but I went from 150 to 180 in a month. After that I found some other guys who juice and learned how to inject which is something that shouldnt be done alone.
 
OnPoint88 said:
My first cycle was all orals because I didn't want to inject alone. I stacked Restandol which is Testosterone in red capsules with Proviron, Primo Acetate, Anadrol and Anavar. I don't remember the dosages but I went from 150 to 180 in a month. After that I found some other guys who juice and learned how to inject which is something that shouldnt be done alone.
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something that shoulsnt be done alone? im confused are you saying you shouldnt inkect alone or you should take orals alone?:hmmm:
 
Bronkaid is an OTC asthma medicine. It is often used with caffine and asprin as a legal cutting cycle. Bronkaid will be behind the counter at the pharmacy and you will need to show ID to purchase it.

I would recommend you use sustanon 250 @500mg/wk and dbol for a kick start. This is what I used and I guarentee you will make huge gains in strength.
 
Honestly bro, injecting is weird at first but there is so much info online about how to do it and it will become easy after you start seeing the gains you are making.
 
alextheassassin said:
Ya man thanks. I pretty much know very little so I will be on here a lot learning as much as I can.. Ya I have a love for powerlifting and I desire to compete and whoop ass. and after listening to people like louie simmons and such I have came to the conclusion that steroids arent the devil like the media portrays it to be, just start small and become educated and i'll be fine. The propaganda machine is soo strong lol.. But ya ill take a look at dbol test cycle. Thanks.
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This is a good idea, because if you do you'll understand WHY an oral only cycle is a bad idea, not to mention that you're too young for AAS as well.
 
Not intru this thred but im the same as you, sure test only cucle is realy safe on the body but what about hairloss, ?? This is my main con on test cycles .... Now i think sonthin like h drol is realy not strong strong on the liver yes its toxi but not by loads .. And you lose alot of size on test cycles around 15bls ! I know its mostly water weight but still

H drol cycle is a safer op in the count of hairloss and more of a shitdown but to say the least both will shut you down .

Im doing my cycle here in 3 months jist cutting at the momment .
 
You think orals won't give you hair loss or other sides? Do you know how heavily aromatizing dbol is? Most people have to pop aromasin like pez to keep from growing boobies, bloating up like moons or getting a back full of acne.

On top of that, most orals are very androgenic, which is what causes hair loss. You're betting off running finasteride if hair loss is your concern, otherwise don't even consider any AAS if you care so much about having a full head of hair.
 
Bro i never said orals can't give you hairloss i said h drol is less likly i honestky can't see you telling me that h drol is more stronger on sides and hairloss pluse shut down then a 12 week of test 400mg aweekk ???

Yes i care for my hair! Lol im 21 if it goes im depressed lol but thats why im trying to tell him about orals ..... Now epi is strong on losing hair so no not orals are safe none of them are but theres less of a risk .... If he dont care about losing hair or pining then test is the best thing he can do with a high does du to it being his first cycle he'd make the best gains..
 
And its t bol not d bol on h drol if im right? It dont blow you up no water just dry .
 
Pie guy was talking about orals giving you hairloss and boobied he spoke of dbol when im talking about t bol
 
A lot of it makes no sense honestly. I don't like to pick on grammar mistakes, but half way through reading I just said fuck it.

I think he's trying to say that if you're going to run the PH hdrol, you might as well run it with tbol for less chance of bloating. Might as well run IML stuff if you want good lean gains then.
 
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