Confused on Measuring

[TrenMasterFlex]

So I noticed that when you measure, say you measure 1cc of oil out in a syringe I'm actually pulling out about 1 and 1/5 of a cc of oil because of the extra space in the syringe before the measurements start which when you inject, that 1/5 or so stays behind in the syringe in the little reservoir right behind the needle before the measurement markings "hence wasting gear every time I inject" this isn't good as I've lost about a half cc worth of gear so far this cycle and I was wondering if you guys had any special measuring or injection techniques to rid me of this wastage or is it just something that everyone has to deal with? Like putting a small air bubble behind the oil maybe? Idk, that sounds like it could cause some pain or irritate me in some way but any advice you guys have is great. Thanks guys.

 

[Himik]

If a marking says 1ml you are injecting 1ml, not 1.5. You vial might have been under filled, syringes are accurate.

 

[BigBird]

To account for the fact that the measurement lines begin in the actual main body of the syringe, draw in what would appear to be a little less than your dose. Then, remove vial and while continuing to hold pin/syringe upside down, draw the plunger back and you'll see the oil in the reservoir area at the beginning of syringe and connector of pin will add maybe a little to the amount in the syringe body and bring you pretty close to the dose you're looking for.

For example, suppose your goal is 1 cc of an oil. Draw in the oil until the level shows around 9/10ths of a cc. Immediately remove vial from pin and draw back on plunger while tapping the base of the pin (not the actual pin itself) lightly with back of your fingernail. The oil that was in the "no measurement zone" between end of syringe and pin connection will draw into syringe body as you draw back plunger and bring the level damn near 1 full cc. Therefore, you actually had enough gear removed from the vial. You may have to play around a few times in order to perfect a visual technique so you know exactly how much that "no measurement zone" actually contributes to the level in the main syringe body after you remove vial and draw back plunger.

All in all, legit ampules are for sure to offer the full cc but expect to lose a little - albeit negligible - amount of gear over the course of multi-use vials.

 

[TrenMasterFlex]

You don't understand what I'm saying. Yes, you measure out 1ml and when you push it in your ass, no matter how hard you push the plunger, at the end there is always oil left in the syringe. So 1ml minus the little amount of oil left in the syringe = not 1ml which means gear is being wasted every injection. I never said anything about 1.5 I said 1 1/5 which means 1ml + 1/5ml. So think about it, if you do five injections that each contain 1ml say over a period of 2 weeks then after those five injections you've ended up wasting close to 1/2ml give or take. Does anyone know what I'm talking about the little space right behind the needle that the plunger just doesn't plunge?

 

[TrenMasterFlex]

To account for the fact that the measurement lines begin in the actual main body of the syringe, draw in what would appear to be a little less than your dose. Then, remove vial and while continuing to hold pin/syringe upside down, draw the plunger back and you'll see the oil in the reservoir area at the beginning of syringe and connector of pin will add maybe a little to the amount in the syringe body and bring you pretty close to the dose you're looking for.

For example, suppose your goal is 1 cc of an oil. Draw in the oil until the level shows around 9/10ths of a cc. Immediately remove vial from pin and draw back on plunger while tapping the base of the pin (not the actual pin itself) lightly with back of your fingernail. The oil that was in the "no measurement zone" between end of syringe and pin connection will draw into syringe body as you draw back plunger and bring the level damn near 1 full cc. Therefore, you actually had enough gear removed from the vial. You may have to play around a few times in order to perfect a visual technique so you know exactly how much that "no measurement zone" actually contributes to the level in the main syringe body after you remove vial and draw back plunger.

All in all, legit ampules are for sure to offer the full cc but expect to lose a little - albeit negligible - amount of gear over the course of multi-use vials.

Thank you bro this is exactly what I was looking for. I was thinking this is how it should be done but I wanted to hear it from someone else as well. I really appreciate your advice, that's some good information right there. So I've actually been injecting more than I want to this past week so now I kinda cut myself about a half week short on my cycle due to that, but it's all good I guess it was better to catch the problem sooner than later. Thanks man.

 

[sulli174]

from the base of the shaft to the tip,do not measure your balls.

 

[BigBird]

Yes, I know the area you're talking about. That's the area I was referencing in my response. I call it the NMZ - no measurement zone. There's no way that I'm aware of to avoid this "lost" gear that gets left in NMZ after you're done pinning. I apply a lot of force at end of the pin (without driving the actual pin in deeper!) specifically to get as much of the "trapped" oil as possible. This is the reason why we can never get a real 10ccs out of a 10ml vial. We can do it as detailed and meticulous as possible but at least some gear will be lost throughout the life of the vial.

Maybe draw more gear than you need such as 3ccs, change pin tips every time and you'd only lose that small amount once - when plunging the last cc of gear from the syringe instead of using different syringe body for every session.

 

[pyes]

does that tiny couple of drops really matter?....it sounds like a crackhead scrounging for white specks in the carpet....ahahahahah

 

[Digitalash]

put some dmso in the syringe and spread it onto your skin? lol I don't know I don't think it really matters much

 

[dhwest]

from the base of the shaft to the tip,do not measure your balls.

Now that's funny!

 

[LightBearer]

To account for the fact that the measurement lines begin in the actual main body of the syringe, draw in what would appear to be a little less than your dose. Then, remove vial and while continuing to hold pin/syringe upside down, draw the plunger back and you'll see the oil in the reservoir area at the beginning of syringe and connector of pin will add maybe a little to the amount in the syringe body and bring you pretty close to the dose you're looking for.

For example, suppose your goal is 1 cc of an oil. Draw in the oil until the level shows around 9/10ths of a cc. Immediately remove vial from pin and draw back on plunger while tapping the base of the pin (not the actual pin itself) lightly with back of your fingernail. The oil that was in the "no measurement zone" between end of syringe and pin connection will draw into syringe body as you draw back plunger and bring the level damn near 1 full cc. Therefore, you actually had enough gear removed from the vial. You may have to play around a few times in order to perfect a visual technique so you know exactly how much that "no measurement zone" actually contributes to the level in the main syringe body after you remove vial and draw back plunger.

All in all, legit ampules are for sure to offer the full cc but expect to lose a little - albeit negligible - amount of gear over the course of multi-use vials.

but wouldnt that little bit be left behind in the needle after injection?

 

[BigBird]

Yes, unfortunately there will always be a little left behind in the needle itself. I have just accepted this as something beyond my control.

The crackhead comment above was funny. In a way, you're right. We're always looking to get that microscopic last drop, lol.

 

[GMO]

Yes, I loved the crack head comment...


OP, you are overthinking this whole thing, bro. Draw out 1cc and inject...it is that easy.

 

[theCaptn']

If you were really anal, you could try this:

Draw ~1/10th CC of steril cottonseed oil or equivilent, then draw gears.

Pin said gears, cottonseed oil is left in the chamber .. . unless of course it all mixes together.

I found that tren E is way heavier than test, so if I held the pin plunger up, all the tren settles at the base. When pinning, all the tren is injected, the chamber has only test in it.


Gears!

 

[BigBird]

Very True Captn'. The oil left behind would be the unwanted oil in this case. Good thinking. Love reading everyone's personal tendencies. If being obsessed with gear is wrong - I don't wanna be right.

 

[BigBird]

Yes, I loved the crack head comment...


OP, you are overthinking this whole thing, bro. Draw out 1cc and inject...it is that easy.

LOL, yeah maybe we should just draw and pin...

 

[Jingle]

The amount of oil lost isn't even worth a thread. This is splitting hairs.

 

[vannesb]

does that tiny couple of drops really matter?....it sounds like a crackhead scrounging for white specks in the carpet....ahahahahah

Well said!! Jesus what are we saying hear!! A drop or two and sh....!

 

[Buzzard]

If you were really anal, you could try this:

Draw ~1/10th CC of steril cottonseed oil or equivilent, then draw gears.

Pin said gears, cottonseed oil is left in the chamber .. . unless of course it all mixes together.

I found that tren E is way heavier than test, so if I held the pin plunger up, all the tren settles at the base. When pinning, all the tren is injected, the chamber has only test in it.


Gears!

Actually... I've heard of peeps using B-12. Same diff I spose.

They're all placebos anywho...