No sex drive two months after course of Sus and Deca

[gibbo23]

I started my first course of steroids near the end of October 2011, started off on dbols and then began using sus and deca. yes I know my course was a complete joke and hindsight is a great thing but I was ill advised and not until now after doing some research do I realise that. So basically i was training hard, made some decent gains and then finished my 11 week course just before the end of December below is my course:

Week 1 : dbol tablets 20mg ED.
Week 2 : dbol tablets 20mg ED.
Week 3 : dbol tablets 20mg ED.
Week 4 : dbol tablets 20mg ED. 250mg sus and 200mg deca every Sunday
Week 5 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 6 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 7 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 8 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 9 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 10: Sus-500mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday. Started getting Gyno began 20mg Tamoxifen ED.
Week 11: Sus-500mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday. 20mg Tamoxifen ED

PCT**

Week 12: 20mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 13: 4 x 1200iu shots of HCG every other day. Brought balls back to full size and was shooting good loads, some sex drive but not great!
Week 14: 20 MG of Tamoxifen Every day.
Week 15: 20 MG of Tamoxifen Every day.
Week 16: 20 MG of Tamoxifen Every day.
Week 17: 20 MG of Tamoxifen Every day.
Week 18: Ran out of tamoxifen taking nothing. Noticed a drop in Sex Drive
Week 19: Began taking 8 x 2500iu every other day of HCG again. and 20mg of Tamoxifen every day. Currently had 5x shots at 2500iu per shot of HCG. Still have low sex drive. Poor erections. No morning wood. But balls are back to normal size, and shooting more or less normal loads.

Week 20: Stopped taking ALL meds. Began taking Vitamin D - 5000iu/day and Vitamin E - 1000iu/day
Week 21: Stopped taking ALL meds. Still taking Vitamin D - 5000iu/day and Vitamin E - 1000iu/day

So after 2 months of bad PCT and another 2 weeks of taking nothing and trying to recover I still have low sex drive, feel depressed, no morning or nighttime erections, penis seems smaller when flaccid and when erect and feels somewhat numb and no sensation when flaccid. About 2 weeks ago I was getting occasional pain in testicles aswell, and they always seemed to be cold although the pain has stopped now and they no longer seem to be cold all the time. I can still masturbate ok and orgasms feel the same as before I was on the juice. It may all be in my head i'm not sure, but I think i was a kind of low testosterone guy to begin with and the deca has shut me down hard. I'm due in for some blood tests at the doctors in a few days but i've already seen him and he hasnt got the slightest clue, he's only put me down for liver and testosterone levels aswell, is there anything else I should call up and request on the bloods?

Aswell I have just recieved a months supply of aromasin and clomid in the post, should I run PCT again with the following: Clomid- 100mg/75mg/50mg/50mg (doses are every day, each corresponding to a week so week 1-100mg a day, week 2 75mg a day etc. Aromasin at 25mg/day the first 2 and then 12.5mg/day for the last two weeks

Stats:

Age: 23
Weight: 154lbs
Height: 5"10
Bodyfat: 15%
Training for about 2 years now but this is my first experience with steroids

I've usually been a reader of these forums and others but never a poster as i'm not really clued up as a beginner myself, but I hope someone can offer me some advice.

Thanks,
gibbo

 

[SFW]

Weight: 154lbs

Before the steroids, right?

 

[gibbo23]

I weighed 168lbs towards the end of my course but I'm now down to 154lbs but have still kept some of my muscle and better definition.

 

[msumuscle]

You need a PCT protocol after the HCG. HCG is suppressive! I would use Clomid at 100/100/50/50 and Aromasin at 25/25/12.5/12.5

 

[SFW]

I weighed 168lbs towards the end of my course but I'm now down to 154lbs but have still kept some of my muscle and better definition.

my condolences

 

[LoveToLiftBig]

I'm what they consider to be a novice steroid user, I don't know the solution to this but get a blood test done to see where your test levels are at and how bad you've been shut down if it's not just in your head.

 

[Dath]

Before you begin any additional self treatment wait and see what your test levels come back as. You also would like to know what your E2 (estrogen) level is also. Not sure if your dr. Would have this checked as well but you am have it done thru a private lab for around 50$.
Check out the stickies for some additional insight into getting this done.
Your cycle was not laid out properly at all bro. You need to Much more research before proceeding with another cycle in the future, for your own health and well being.
Keep us updated once your tests come back.

 

[gibbo23]

Yep I relied too much on the advice of the guy who was supplying my gear and not enough on my own research. He even give some guy i know a 10 week course of Sus- 250mg/week Deca- 200mg/week and then didnt bother informing or supplying him with any sort of post course!

But anyway I am expecting a telephone call from my doctor tomorrow afternoon, what exactly should I ask for as far as bloodwork goes. so far i'm going to ask for: FSH, LH, testosterone (free/total), oestradiol and progesterone. anything else?

 

[SloppyJ]

Bloodwork is the only option here. Look at the sticky.

 

[Standard Donkey]

get a full hormone panel then report back with your findings

 

[squigader]

I started my first course of steroids near the end of October 2011, started off on dbols and then began using sus and deca. yes I know my course was a complete joke and hindsight is a great thing but I was ill advised and not until now after doing some research do I realise that. So basically i was training hard, made some decent gains and then finished my 11 week course just before the end of December below is my course:

Week 1 : dbol tablets 20mg ED.
Week 2 : dbol tablets 20mg ED.
Week 3 : dbol tablets 20mg ED.
Week 4 : dbol tablets 20mg ED. 250mg sus and 200mg deca every Sunday
Week 5 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 6 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 7 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 8 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 9 : Sus-250mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday
Week 10: Sus-500mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday. Started getting Gyno began 20mg Tamoxifen ED.
Week 11: Sus-500mg and Deca-200mg every Sunday. 20mg Tamoxifen ED

PCT**

Week 12: 20mg of Tamoxifen ED
Week 13: 4 x 1200iu shots of HCG every other day. Brought balls back to full size and was shooting good loads, some sex drive but not great!
Week 14: 20 MG of Tamoxifen Every day.
Week 15: 20 MG of Tamoxifen Every day.
Week 16: 20 MG of Tamoxifen Every day.
Week 17: 20 MG of Tamoxifen Every day.
Week 18: Ran out of tamoxifen taking nothing. Noticed a drop in Sex Drive
Week 19: Began taking 8 x 2500iu every other day of HCG again. and 20mg of Tamoxifen every day. Currently had 5x shots at 2500iu per shot of HCG. Still have low sex drive. Poor erections. No morning wood. But balls are back to normal size, and shooting more or less normal loads.

Week 20: Stopped taking ALL meds. Began taking Vitamin D - 5000iu/day and Vitamin E - 1000iu/day
Week 21: Stopped taking ALL meds. Still taking Vitamin D - 5000iu/day and Vitamin E - 1000iu/day

So after 2 months of bad PCT and another 2 weeks of taking nothing and trying to recover I still have low sex drive, feel depressed, no morning or nighttime erections, penis seems smaller when flaccid and when erect and feels somewhat numb and no sensation when flaccid. About 2 weeks ago I was getting occasional pain in testicles aswell, and they always seemed to be cold although the pain has stopped now and they no longer seem to be cold all the time. I can still masturbate ok and orgasms feel the same as before I was on the juice. It may all be in my head i'm not sure, but I think i was a kind of low testosterone guy to begin with and the deca has shut me down hard. I'm due in for some blood tests at the doctors in a few days but i've already seen him and he hasnt got the slightest clue, he's only put me down for liver and testosterone levels aswell, is there anything else I should call up and request on the bloods?

Aswell I have just recieved a months supply of aromasin and clomid in the post, should I run PCT again with the following: Clomid- 100mg/75mg/50mg/50mg (doses are every day, each corresponding to a week so week 1-100mg a day, week 2 75mg a day etc. Aromasin at 25mg/day the first 2 and then 12.5mg/day for the last two weeks

Stats:

Age: 23
Weight: 154lbs
Height: 5"10
Bodyfat: 15%
Training for about 2 years now but this is my first experience with steroids

I've usually been a reader of these forums and others but never a poster as i'm not really clued up as a beginner myself, but I hope someone can offer me some advice.

Thanks,
gibbo

You cycled way too early. 15% bodyfat 154lbs at 5"10? And that's after the cycle? I'm sorry, but that was a huge mistake.

Go get the blood tests done, wait on the results.

 

[jimm]

my condolences

Jajajajaja

 

[TwisT]

Maybe you need a better looking girl